Is It Lonely Being a Contemporary Lover in Lincoln Park? 1943 N. Maud

This 4-bedroom contemporary single family home at 1943 N. Maud in Lincoln Park recently came on the market.

The listing says it was designed by Krueck & Sexton.

It was built in 1989 on a 23×100 lot.

It has a 2-story entryway and an open floor plan.

The listing says there is a new gourmet kitchen with white cabinets, black granite counter tops and upscale appliances by SubZero, Dacor and Miele.

The house has several outdoor spaces, including a deck on top of the 2-car garage.

The bedrooms are split, with the master on the third floor, two bedrooms on the second floor and the fourth in the lower level.

With all the vintage-era housing in Lincoln Park, is it tough being a contemporary lover?

Carol Duran at Prudential Rubloff has the listing. See more pictures here.

Or see it in person at the Open House: Sunday, February 12 from 11:30 to 1:30.

1943 N. Maud: 4 bedrooms, 4.5 baths, 4000 square feet, 2 car garage

  • Sold in June 1993 for $795,000
  • Sold in May 1998 for $690,000
  • Currently listed for $1.295 million
  • Taxes of $17,209
  • Central Air
  • Bedroom #1: 20×19 (third floor)
  • Bedroom #2: 17×12 (second floor)
  • Bedroom #3: 17×12 (second floor)
  • Bedroom #4: 12×11 (lower level)

 

68 Responses to “Is It Lonely Being a Contemporary Lover in Lincoln Park? 1943 N. Maud”

  1. for 1.2mil i at least need one aspect to wow me. i cant find anything to wow me here

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  2. Is it a row house? looks wide outside and narrow inside. No windows on the sides?

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  3. Groove: 4000 square feet is pretty cool.

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  4. “Is it a row house?”

    Yep.

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  5. Unwowed, rowhouse. Re-price, realistic. Will sell.

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  6. This place is mostly about space and location…and tolerating the architecture.

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  7. “4000 square feet is pretty cool”

    You actually are relying on a round number like that as the actual interior floorspace? Might be a legit rounding up, but I’m dubious about that being correct even for the stated one significant figure (ie, 3500 or more).

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  8. “Groove: 4000 square feet is pretty cool.”

    yep but 4000 over 4 levels? and one level is a basement.

    so 850 sqft per floor of dull usable space is not a WOW

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  9. “This place is mostly about space and location…and tolerating the architecture.”

    I’m ok generally with the style. I don’t see the appeal of the location.

    “Might be a legit rounding up”

    Is there anything legit about rounding up to the closest 1,000?

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  10. I think this house has it all, other than location. If this was in east LP, price would be justified. Right next to the ugly/boring/congested Clybourn cooridor? 950k

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  11. Not much curb appeal; not a great location; and there appear to be some superior SFH options in west LP for the same or not too much more. I know somebody who just closed on a 4 bed rowhome at Belden and Halsted for less than this list price, and it’s a nicer place/better location. That said, if it can close for around $1 million, it seems like an o.k. place for the two-kid family that doesn’t mind driving everywhere.

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  12. I don’t know the architects. I assume they are famous but what is the point of the wall in the living room that just makes the space chock up? It is not large enough of a space to play these gimmicks and the kitchen is so uninspiring.

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  13. Did someone really pay $795k in 1993? I was thinking that might be a fair price today.

    And, it’s a fee-simple townhouse, right? Not a SFH.

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  14. The buyers of this place would do well to adopt westloopelo’s dark-stained-floors style. It would look much better.

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  15. I actually like this place and I am a vintage lover. However, for $1.2 it would have to be detached. I think under $1M is more accurate for this place being attached to its neighbor.

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  16. I’m also a vintage lover who really likes this place. Right around a million makes decent sense to me, I like the space. The 1993 price is high but it wouldve been 4 years old at the time and I think that this architectural firm might have been much more well known in that era. That is definitely a name that once held some pretty heavy cachet.

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  17. Redfin has this listed at 2400sqft. Last sold 1998 – $690k

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  18. This location blows you’re really close to that steel recycling center and clybourn here is AWFUL

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  19. Listed in the public facts area at the bottom.

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  20. “This location blows you’re really close to that steel recycling center and clybourn here is AWFUL”

    I think that’s an overstatement. I like the area, it’s secluded, close to the Admas park if you have kids, close to the Armitage stop, close to Trader Joes etc and it’s all walking distance.

    The recylcing center would be a non-issue for me becuase it’s beyond the stores.

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  21. Krueck & Sexton is a nationally well-regarded small firm among architects, but I’m a little surprised that this project was done by this firm. There aren’t any clear indications of their usual architectural items or quality of finishes/details, unless this was a project done for a spec developer back in early 90s. Their work is usually client-specific. I like this townhouse more than most LP townhouses, but pricing seems unreasonable unless I’m missing something. Is basement and garage included in that area?

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  22. I actually like this location. It is a secluded little pocket just south of Armitage about two blocks from my old house. $950K I think is a more realistic list.

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  23. yeah let me tell you I love having an insane amount pickup trucks full of tons of materials with no insurance driving around my neighborhood, thats real safe

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  24. this is a great location. quiet tree lined street with tons of shopping and parks nearby. the recycle plant is not an issue at all.

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  25. “the two-kid family that doesn’t mind driving everywhere.”

    Really? Becuase 0.3 miles from the Armitage el stop is now too far to walk? Because 0.7 miles to the Yuppiest Whole Foods is too far to walk? Or the same distance to Oz Park?

    Where, exactly, are these two kids going all the time that they have to drive “everywhere”?

    Note: I wouldnt want to live in this spot, but not because its inconvenient to walk places.

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  26. To the zoo! Can’t walk to the zoo! Surrounded by horrible pocket parks [See also 1020 Armitage]!

    If you can’t hear the lions roar you don’t really live in Lincoln Park (you may also need a new lion).

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  27. “Really? Becuase 0.3 miles from the Armitage el stop is now too far to walk? Because 0.7 miles to the Yuppiest Whole Foods is too far to walk? Or the same distance to Oz Park?”

    Ha, my thoughts exactly.

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  28. “Hey, kids, let’s go walk to the el stop.” I’ll grant that it’s very convenient for Loop commutes.

    This house is a haul from Oz. Going there would be an event (Adams is obviously very close). The nearest environmental locator to the subject property is the river. Perhaps I’m in the minority, but unlike proximity to certain wonderous rivers in this country, I just don’t see the attraction of living nearby an industrial river.

    I’m at the Yuppiest Whole Foods every week. I have no great desire to walk around there, including along the route to the subject property. Even driving around there is less than pleasant (it’s the epicenter of self important traffic that drove Groove to the hinterlands…partly due to people, like me, driving into the neighborhood, and partly due to everyone who lives in the neighborhood driving everywhere; I never see local families strolling to and fro). Nothing about the area (around the YWF) says “I’ve purchased a $1 million+ home and enjoy walking/biking/scootering/running around the neighborhood with the kids in my scant free time.”

    Again, it’s a good location insofar as it’s a quick drive to lots of nearby destinations (including Lincoln Park/the lakefront), but I imagine I’d drive to the YWF most of the time from this property.

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  29. Anonny:

    1. So, you’re projecting.
    2. How often are you out, in this neighborhood, on a weekday, during the day? I agree that there are few families out walking after dark, on weekdays, but that’s true everywhere. And if you dont have to, schedule-wise, why would anyone go to YWF on the weekend, walking or not?

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  30. There’s certainly stuff to walk to from here, but YWF is not one of them. It’s not a great walk, so wouldn’t do it as a fake outing. The quality of the walk is paramount. I’ll happily walk 0.7 miles to Logan Sq because the walk is enjoyable.

    And if I really just wanted to pick something up, would prob go to TJ. And if I were really doing a bunch of shopping, I’d drive.

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  31. anon, when do you do the big weekly grocery run? Before work? After work?

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  32. Walking distance to Pequods 0.8 miles…. thats a plus

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  33. “anon, when do you do the big weekly grocery run? Before work? After work?”

    When going to YWF, its usually after work, but that’s as one of the people who may occasionally drive to work. And, if I lived here, Id be much more likely to go to TJ or TI for groceries on most trips. I’m just sayin that its not a drive everywhere location.

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  34. “lincoln park”
    More like A. Finkl Neighbors or some bs like that.

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  35. I think this price point is unrealistic. For that much money, you could have this and pay for college:
    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/1420-W-Wolfram-St-60657/home/40277523
    Oh wait, someone already did. In less than 2 weeks market time. Inventory must really be that lackluster.
    Of course, you’re not likely to see a posting on what sells. Only what doesnt. Seems like a good case of selection bias.

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  36. gringozecarioca on February 9th, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    ahhh.. JMM, you’re back. Wife’s family started paying your allowance again? Now able to reconnect to the internet?

    ..and you still owe G an apology.

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  37. The YWF used to be much nicer as a walk to place before it got IKEA’fied.

    Now I completely agree – drive there. The only time, I walk to it is I’m looking to combine a long stroll with NYC bagels.

    For the wiki: A YWF bar for after work Y’s with hipsters that haven’t left for Logan having coffee during the day

    On the property itself: No bonus points for Dirk’s being so close? I think the area is fine for LP. That triangle is not preferred for me, but its close to the Armitage Brown line stop

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  38. 0.8 miles may as well be Timbukto to all the fatties who post here.

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  39. “Of course, you’re not likely to see a posting on what sells. Only what doesnt. Seems like a good case of selection bias.”

    I am so sick of this argument. I have an e-mail address. Did you write me a week ago and say, “Sabrina- there’s this house at 1420 W. Wolfram that is SO amazing. Can you post on it? Thank you.”

    Because 99% of the time- I will.

    But you didn’t because this house is, frankly, not very interesting. Dime a dozen all around Lakeview.

    Do you think I have time to go take pictures of every dime a dozen house all over Lakeviewn and whatever Greenzone neighborhood on the oft chance it might sell faster than the others that sit and sit and sit?

    I cover plenty of properties that have just come on the market, including the one in this very post.

    But it’s true that many of the properties I feature have been listed for, sometimes, years. That’s what happens when I choose to cover certain neighborhoods outside the Greenzone where sales are much slower and sellers are unrealistic (although many are unrealistic in the greenzone as well.)

    And many are also foreclosures and/or short sales because that’s what people want to see (and it’s also a huge percentage of the listings now.)

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  40. “Redfin has this listed at 2400sqft. Last sold 1998 – $690k”

    Redfin is not God. It is correct only about 80% of the time.

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  41. What?!?!?! Now you’ll tell me Santa doesn’t exist!

    “Redfin is not God.”

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  42. “Redfin has this listed at 2400sqft. Last sold 1998 – $690k”
    “Redfin is not God. It is correct only about 80% of the time.”

    Redfin is reporting 2446 as the sqft from public records, which is what the assessor has. I find Redfin to report PINs (which I assume it gets from the MLS listing) very accurately, probably 95+ percent of the time on places I look up.

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  43. “But you didn’t because this house is, frankly, not very interesting. Dime a dozen all around Lakeview.”

    JMM luurves environs houses.

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  44. I find Redfin to report PINs (which I assume it gets from the MLS listing) very accurately, probably 95+ percent of the time on places I look up.

    I use it every single day and I find it is accurate about 80% of the time. Yes- Redfin gets the PIN from whatever the agent has put in. And the agent’s either get it wrong (put in the temp PIN on a unit from the last sale 5 years ago when it was new construction but now it has its own PIN) or they have a typo in the PIN just from putting it down wrong.

    All I’m saying is- everyone treats Redfin as God (the end all, be all, of real estate data.) If you REALLY want to know- go look it up yourself and double check it.

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  45. here’s one, sabrina:

    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Highland-Park/51-Sheridan-Rd-60035/home/16877609#agent_insight

    interesting for its architecture, history, and pricing (15% below its 2002 sale, if redfin has it right)

    btw, in about 97% of cases, when redfin has the prior sale wrong, it’s cuz the realtor listed it with the wrong pin

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  46. “I am so sick of this argument. I have an e-mail address. Did you write me a week ago and say, “Sabrina- there’s this house at 1420 W. Wolfram that is SO amazing. Can you post on it? Thank you.””

    bri bri,

    i do send you tips many in fact but mine never show up in cribchatter. okay one did two years ago but i have sent many since

    groove sad now :(

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  47. Roma- what I find so interesting about a lot of these properties that have been on the market for forever (in the city and the suburbs) is that the sellers have managed to convince the agents to list it for more than they paid for it (sometimes a lot more) and it is NEVER the right pricing strategy. I understand that agents are in a tough position and if they need the listing they’re going to cave into the pressure from the homeowner to list for more (so that they can get “out” of the house without having to bring money to the table.)

    But it never works out in the end.

    That Highland Park house started last May at $585,000. It’s now at $435,000. They weren’t even close last year. But very few homeowners will admit that they have to take these kind of losses. Only after it’s on the market a year or more do some of them finally concede they are priced wrong.

    And that’s why this market is so messed up and is taking so long to correct. The prices are still all wrong.

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  48. Groove:

    Like what? I’m always looking for properties in the western part of town. How do you think I ended up driving around Austin on a winter day? Someone sent me a request. :)

    Send some more. But here are some rules:

    1. Don’t ask me to cover properties that are already under contract or that you have bid on so you can “see” if other people think you’re getting a deal.
    2. Don’t ask me to cover a 1950s apartment building on Pulaski (okay- I might STILL post on it- but I’m not enthused)
    3. Don’t ask me to cover properties that don’t have interior pictures. It’s REALLY hard to chatter about a property that you can’t see what is going on with it.

    That’s about it.

    Oh- and don’t expect the property to suddenly appear the next day. If the weather is crappy- it might be hard for me to get some pictures so give me some time.

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  49. “Like what? I’m always looking for properties in the western part of town. How do you think I ended up driving around Austin on a winter day? Someone sent me a request.”

    I have sent a few in all different area’s. one in LP, one in norwood, one in Printers row, one in River Forest, another in norwood.

    “1. Don’t ask me to cover properties that are already under contract or that you have bid on so you can “see” if other people think you’re getting a deal.”

    ok i did send you one that sold that i lost a bid on but it sold so though it was ok.

    “2. Don’t ask me to cover a 1950s apartment building on Pulaski (okay- I might STILL post on it- but I’m not enthused)”

    its pulaski ave, nobody should be enthused and you should never post anything on pulaski, bad street

    “3. Don’t ask me to cover properties that don’t have interior pictures. It’s REALLY hard to chatter about a property that you can’t see what is going on with it.”

    may have done that once two years ago, i remember a bank owned property of 99k had only 5 pics of the front and yard.

    but no worries, never mad or hurt that you dont post my tips. ok maybe a little when i see you post a craptacular listing like the old town schiller place. but in the end its your site and you know whats best but i thank you for providing a playground for us big kids to play in.

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  50. Don’t use the “contact me” form- as that appears to be malfunctioning (I need to fix it.)

    Just e-mail me any tips.

    I’m the first to admit that many properties have been “boring” recently. It’s the nature of this market. It’s really low inventory. There’s not much fun to chatter about. And many of the properties that ARE on the market have been so for years and years. Ugh.

    I can’t wait for spring at this point.

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  51. PULASKI? DID SOME BODY SAY PULASKI? OH BOY!!!

    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/3633-N-Pulaski-Rd-60641/home/13456407

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  52. Sabrina,

    Spring inventory won’t be all that much better, unfortunately. More underwater homeowners means less listings. It’s been that way for years now. This post shows the change

    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2012/02/existing-home-inventory-declines-21.html

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  53. “Spring inventory won’t be all that much better, unfortunately. More underwater homeowners means less listings. It’s been that way for years now. This post shows the change.”

    It’ll be better than what it is right now. It always is. And if sellers get a whiff that the market is “improving” they’ll be listing very, very quickly. Trust me.

    I’ve been hearing stories from people about multiple offers on “regular” properties (i.e. not the REOs/short sales) in Bucktown and Wicker Park. Because of the multiple bidders, the sellers are getting their asking prices. Once that news starts spreading around the neighborhood (and don’t think the neighbors aren’t watching) then others will start listing. And they’ll start to get emboldened that not only can they sell but they might be able to get the inflated price they think they should be able to get (to get out of the property without a loss.)

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  54. As a potential buyer, I’ve been in several of those townhouses over the years, but not in this one. Some of them have been beautifully renovated and are very much worth the price if you look at comparables. They actually are as big as the listing says. I agree the architecture is a bit boring, but with some renovating magic, the place could be great. It’s got comparably a lot of outdoor space, as well. I bought a house down the street because it had better outdoor space and needed more renovation, which I love to do (sick, I know).

    Maud is a great street…quiet, close to the expressway, rock star parking most of the time, walking distance to both Red and Brown Lines, etc. Clybourn can be frustrating, but mostly on weekends and very much so around the holidays. But I walk almost everywhere, including YWF, TJ and TI. Somebody above said they don’t see families walking around? I see my neighbors out and about almost every day. The best part? Really close to Binny’s! : )

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  55. Sabrina: “about 80% of the time”
    DZ: “probably 95+ percent of the time”

    The difference in perception is most likely due to DZ looking up mostly single family houses and Sabrina looking at a lot of condos. I haven’t bothered to ever consider an error rate for PINs in the mls, but they are definitely more common for condos.

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  56. “Don’t use the “contact me” form- as that appears to be malfunctioning (I need to fix it.)

    Just e-mail me any tips. ”

    Bri Bri,

    I sent the tips to both last night ;)

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  57. “this house is, frankly, not very interesting. Dime a dozen all around Lakeview.”
    Ok.
    If dime a dozen, why sub 2 week market time under contract?
    If not very interesting, why sub 2 week market time?
    If every home is lakeview is the same, why is average market time many times more than 2 weeks?
    I think people would find this one very interesting because what it shows is inventory is lackluster and most of what doesn’t sell is grossly overpriced or completely f’d up for a young family to even consider.
    You know the neighborhood. You know what sells and what doesn’t, and why. Could it be you don’t think it is interesting because, even though it’s one data point, it contravenes your book?

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  58. JMM is back?

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  59. Meanwhile, while you are featuring contemporary houses, just down the street a “straight out of Miami Vice” home actually trades for $1.65M (standard lot, right next to Ashland). I don’t think Miami Vice is a style listed in the MLS but perhaps it should be.
    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/1529-W-Wolfram-St-60657/home/13364386
    Let me guess, this one isn’t so interesting either. Of couse, if it were a foreclosure or sat on the market for years it might be.

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  60. “Let me guess, this one isn’t so interesting either.”

    Um, JMM: http://cribchatter.com/?p=12826

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  61. off-topic, except on the “not featured here” topic:

    Anyone know what’s with the ginormous house being built at Greenview and Belle Plain (NW corner), across the street from LVHS?

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  62. I think the interesting part s/b that it sold and what it sold for. That is the story.

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  63. “I think the interesting part s/b that it sold and what it sold for. That is the story.”

    1. You could have commented on that post, and started that discussion.
    2. afaik, no one is stopping you from starting your own blog. I bet Sabrina would even throw you some link love.

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  64. “JMM is back?”

    Sabrina wrote a book?

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  65. “I think the interesting part s/b that it sold and what it sold for. That is the story.”

    Nope, it’s the same old story about how your credibility could only rival someone who never gets a thing right.

    Let’s see, as for 1529 W Wolfram, see 1 and 2 from anon above. How about 1420 W Wolfram? What is interesting about it selling and what it sold for? It looks pretty typical to me.

    7/2/96 closed $679,747 new from Environs
    2/14/03 closed $1,125,000
    1/24/12 listed $1,100,000
    2/4/12 contract $???

    The current listing mentions new appliances and a new patio. Doesn’t say how much more was done since the last sale, but check the pics.

    Where does that leave us?

    Contract at 2002-03 pricing in the GZ: $1.1M
    Value of excellent condition: $100K
    JMM’s bloviating return: priceless

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  66. “I’ve been hearing stories from people about multiple offers on “regular” properties (i.e. not the REOs/short sales) in Bucktown and Wicker Park. Because of the multiple bidders, the sellers are getting their asking prices.”

    I can confirm this from experience.
    I’ve been involved in an offer/counter-offer situation on a very small non-GZ condo which needs a TON of work for 6 weeks now.
    At first it went into 3 rounds of all bidders submitting their highest and best offers.
    Then it went in and out of contract a couple of times.
    Then they finally countered my offer and we went back and forth several times.
    We were at a stand-off over 3K, but I wasn’t going to go above my price ceiling.
    Then it went into another round of highest and best offers.

    Very frustrating.
    Grrrrrr…

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  67. There have been several other places I’ve lost out on to bidders who pay full price.

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  68. Larger, new construction on the market for substantially longer and sold with little (almost no) premium to a 15 year old house in the same neighborhood just a few months ago.
    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/1514-W-Nelson-St-60657/home/13366438
    Shows you something has either changed recently or the current inventory really is that poor on a relative basis.

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