The $1 Million Condo at Buckingham and Halsted: 744 W. Buckingham in Lakeview

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This 3-bedroom new construction condo at 744 W. Buckingham in Lakeview came on the market in March 2017.

It’s a 4-unit all-brick building with garage parking that was built by Ronan Builders.

The lot is 32.5 x 133.

This is a top floor unit with its own 69×28 private roof deck.

The unit has all the features and finishes you would expect out of 2017 new construction.

There is a custom trim/molding package.

The kitchen has custom cabinets, quartz or granite counter tops, and luxury appliances by Subzero, Bosch, Wolf and Kohler.

The bathrooms have Grohe, Kohler and Ann Sacks Tile Work.

Originally priced last March at $1,099,000, it has been reduced $94,000 to $1.05 million.

Is $1 million the new reality for new construction penthouse condos in East Lakeview?

Felicia Marinescu at Mod Realty has the listing. See the pictures here.

Unit #4: 3 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, 1900 square feet

  • New construction
  • Originally listed in March 2017 for $1,099,000
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed at $1.05 million
  • Assessments of $299 a month (includes electric, exterior maintenance, lawn care, scavenger, and snow removal)
  • Taxes are “new”
  • Central Air
  • Washer/Dryer in the unit
  • Bedroom #1: 15×14
  • Bedroom #2: 11×11
  • Bedroom #3: 11×11
  • Private deck: 69×28

 

69 Responses to “The $1 Million Condo at Buckingham and Halsted: 744 W. Buckingham in Lakeview”

  1. Talk about generous with the sf listing. You’re probably losing 400sf for the 2 stair towers. And why 2 towers, shouldnt be needed by code. Was there a plan to combine the 2 upper floors into (2) 2 stories?

    This place is going to live like a 1300sf 3Br (Excluding the awesome deck)

    Put the Deck at $250M (and a free Jan Terri concert) and you’re paying $650/sf for usable space

    See you at $875M

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  2. “why 2 towers”

    The door to the 2d tower doesn’t even have a knob on it in the 3d walkthrough–so it appears likely that it is true private access to the roof. And then maybe the original concept was that the top floor would get a private half, and the other units would share the other half?

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  3. I don’t really know what to say other than this place is horrifically overpriced. The seller is delusional.

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  4. I’m laughing at the placement of the toilet and sink in the powder room in the floor plan, nice attention to detail!

    and nothing screams million dollar condo like a shared door restroom for your guests, and tiny, 11×11 bedrooms

    I also think they are being very generous with the sqfootage I mean even if you use the roof top deck dimensions you’re only getting 1794 but hey its just a number right… I was surprised at the exaggeration of sqfootage when I bought a new construction place, shocked they didn’t include the whole rooftop deck square footage in this listing!

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  5. I think two modes of egress from the roof deck are required by code for new construction. Older units (built in the 1990s) may only have one but you cannot do new construction that way these days.

    Sonies – – that toilet has got to be a mistake! It must be oriented the other way. That is hilarious.

    This place is pretty uninspiring. High end finishes don’t make up for lackluster design…for a million bucks it isn’t even a duplex with a separate family room or for crying out loud, a formal dining room. These folks need to put the crack pipe down. This thing may sell for something starting with an “8” and that buyer will not be getting a good deal, but I can see that happening. Only an idiot buys this at this price.

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  6. “a shared door restroom for your guests”

    Layout is for the ‘dream’/fantasy of raising your two children in the city in a condo.

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  7. The master vanity has no pulls/handles. Is that a thing now? Was it ever?

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  8. god, i hope this sells for 7 figures. i live down the street!

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  9. So, at first glance I didn’t notice, but how do you open the kitchen and bathroom cabinets? There are no pulls and the cabinets don’t seem to have the extra space that cabinets typically have when they are without pulls. I do like the look of cabinets without pulls, but I wonder how these are opened.

    As for the people complaining about the layout, the Realtor states that it’s a “21st century layout.” Everyone here is behind the times it seems!

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  10. “how do you open the kitchen and bathroom cabinets?”

    I think it’s like the backdoor to the roof–not installed when the pix were shot–maybe so that you get to pick?

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  11. LOL. I wouldn’t pay 750K for this place.

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  12. Looks like you do need 2 exits for a roof top deck. Makes a lot of sense to put them 20′ apart

    You should look at the other units in this dumpster fire.

    The front entrance only serves the Duplex down (Offered for the low, low price of $1.2MM). Best as I can tell, Everyone else gets to enter from the side. And I cant totally figure that out as one of the stairs looks like it opens into unit 1. $780M for Units 2 or 3 LOFL. There’s no way these guys could have done this before right? Not everyone in Chicago is this stupid are they?

    I wonder what award these clowns at Rowan “Builders” won? Most likely to design shitty buildings from Triton College?

    I have a very morbid curiosity about this place. Someone needs to tour this mistake at let us know how bad it really is

    Thanks for the Friday laugh

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  13. It’s bad design to have a bathroom door open into the hall. Someone walking down the hall could get a door opened in front of them and be badly hurt.

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  14. I don’t see fixtures on the second bathroom sink. Pic 16

    A million dollars to live on an alley and deal with the shit show that is Halsted street on weekend nights? Delusional indeed.

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  15. This is a 650K-750k condo all day. Sellers are insane.

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  16. $1,195,000 for the duplex down. And one outdoor parking spot. You’d have to be delusional to buy here too.

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  17. Developer is betting on an influx of Amazon employees from Seattle.

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  18. I used on Buckingham near Broadway for several years. As a comparison, 625 W. Buckingham Place #1 sold for $939K in 2013. That unit was extra wide with very nice finishes.

    Buckingham is a very nice street, but being so close to Halsted and the unit is right on the alley….hell, no, for that price.

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  19. This will not go for more than 800. Delusional realtor and seller.

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  20. Let’s not overlook the lack of an elevator. When Skip and Buffy move in their friends will all tell them how great the place is and what a great deal they got.

    Then they will have those precious little twin babies and the headaches begin. Where do you ditch the strollers? How do you get the groceries AND toddlers upstairs at the same time without neglecting something?

    That’s when they determine its time to leave. And that’s when they realize just how much they’ve overpaid for this unit. The optimal buyer pool is small.

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  21. They tore down a lovely 2-flat to build this…

    This building has 2 $1M+ units; there’s a building a few doors down (734 Buckingham) that has 2 $1M+ units. There’s also a 6-unit development across the street that will have at least 2 $1M+ units. And that’s just on Buckingham. There’re a couple of developments in the 600/700 block of Aldine as well. Who is going to buy all these million-dollar condos in Boystown?

    I mean, don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see property values go up (I live right down the street), but this is ridiculous.

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  22. Besides all the other already mentioned design flaws, is that a dishwasher in the Island? So you will have to walk back and forth putting the dishes away. I really couldn’t take that on a daily basis.

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  23. @Madeline – same thing on Melrose too. So many nice single-family and old graystones torn down for unimaginative mcmansion condos set at $1+ million and not selling. From my observations, one was bought by an older couple who is only in-town on the weekends; and disappointed-looking young couples leaving showings of these places.

    That location along an alley – no thank you. Behind Wood and Side Tracks, people spilling into the side streets at bar close. Potential buyers need to be really into the Boystown scene.

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  24. lol

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  25. Tikky-tacky look-alike modern building. No distinction. Probably built cheaply. Anyone paying $1 mln to live here must be out of their minds.

    Noisy location, to boot.

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  26. Sad to hear a nice old two-flat was torn down for this monstrosity. The streets west of Broadway used to be nicer than east of Broadway because they hadn’t been tarnished by the construction of ugly four-plus-ones in the 1960s. Now both sides of Broadway are polluted.

    Does the alderman only see dollar signs? Don’t they have a say over zoning and landmarks? The older homes in this neighborhood are rapidly becoming extinct and we won’t fully appreciate what we had until they’re gone and the developers have laughed their way to the bank.

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  27. Gotta love the alley living! Drivers honking their horns all hours of the night. Smokers and druggies from the nightclubs hanging out in the bank either smoking, urinating or both. The smell of garbage wafts up as rats meandering the alley. Been there, done that! I paid $600 a month but granted that was quite some years ago.

    Idk, is this the sign of another bubble? Prices are crazy, $1,000,000 for this? And banks are lending for these sorts of projects? These types of crazy overpriced projects were a dime a dozen in 2004 and people bought them. NOt sure who is even buying or if the fundamentals are even OK.

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  28. So, those screeds from tehHof were finally enough to warrant deletion?

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  29. “why should we delete them?”

    They are deleted in my view of the thread.

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  30. ps: just trying to understand what crosses the line here.

    1. references to [pejorative term for some folks from parts of Appalachia]
    2. certain style of references to tehgayz.
    3. discussions of furniture, kids names, personal decor.

    Anything else?

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  31. use of the term g./ l =o= b o h o m o which is so, so stupid is should not just be deleted, but banned. What a ridiculously stupid term. I won’t even type it without space lest my username forever be associated with that garbage in a google search.

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  32. I refuse to learn or use the racist shibboleths of HH and his ilk.

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  33. “I won’t even type it without space lest my username forever be associated with that garbage in a google search.”

    Best ask Sabrina to delete this one then:

    http://cribchatter.com/?p=24482#comment-428365

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  34. Globohomism is an aesthetic. A condo interior/fixtures in the subject neighborhood has more in common with its peer in many global cities: Berlin, SF, NYC, Vancouver, etc. than it does with the NW side which is much closer in distance. It is a global phenomenon. We can shorten the term if you like to something like “poz” culture. Thankfully, Trump ended the Obama globalism that predicated aid to starving people in African nations upon their acceptance of poz/globohomoism as a “human right” and as “cultural enrichment”. HD, you should just stick to what you know, which is bashing Eastern European finishes when you see them. I’ll stick to critiquing everything else. Thanks.

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  35. it’s called airspace hh.

    https://www.theverge.com/2016/8/3/12325104/airbnb-aesthetic-global-minimalism-startup-gentrification

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  36. Your problem HH is that your ‘critiquing’ always and inevitably ends up with some crazy alt-right shit that quite frankly isn’t relating to real estate and nobody wants to hear. It’s not just that we don’t want to hear it, but it’s actually quite RUDE to just talk about the same shit over and over again when no one wants to hear it. Maybe 1 in every 50 comments you make has marginal value; the other 49 are basically the same tin foil hat shit that jews and gays control the real estate aesthetic and everything else. pure nonsense. It makes you a huge bore when you sound like a broken record. People say that bernie sanders is the same way. The man can’t have a pleasant conversation about anything before it veers off into some diatribe about universal healthcare or the evils of capitalism. Every time.

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  37. “Best ask Sabrina to delete this one then:”

    Thanks anon, thanks for pointing that out. I’m trying to AVOID that and you create a link to it.

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  38. “Thankfully, Trump ended the Obama globalism that predicated aid to starving people in African nations upon their acceptance of poz/globohomoism as a “human right” and as “cultural enrichment”.”

    No he didn’t.

    In fact, Trump hasn’t done ANYTHING in office. Thank goodness, he’s even more incompetent than anyone could have guessed. Everything he has tried has either been blocked by the courts or he can’t get it through a Republican Congress. It’d be a joke, actually, if we didn’t have to put up with his instability every day.

    REMINDER: Once again, HH is NOT from Chicago. I don’t know where he’s from, but it’s not here. I don’t think he’s from any major city because he’s so bitter and filled with hate at the opportunities the best cities in the world afford (both in the US and abroad.)

    What are you so afraid of HH?

    You’re too old to care if you have a job or if you need to save for a 401k. So what is your real fear?

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  39. “So, those screeds from tehHof were finally enough to warrant deletion?”

    Those who’ve been around for 10+ years, anon(tfo), certainly remember the reason that HH originally got banned from this site.

    Need I say more?

    I don’t think so.

    So yes, I’m sick of it and will delete those comments and will continue to delete them. HH adds nothing to this site when he goes off on his crazy screeds. I really wish he wouldn’t be so bored in his nursing home and decide to post his hate here.

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  40. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/neo-nazi-quits-comes-out-gay-jewish-heritage-kevin-wilshaw-national-front-a8005866.html

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  41. “Trump hasn’t done ANYTHING in office. Thank goodness, ”

    yes, thank goodness… any time the government sticks its nose in something it inevitably fucks shit up

    the best thing for the economy is for the government to literally do nothing, make no changes, do absolutely nothing

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  42. “the government to literally do nothing”

    Just so long as the government keeps its hands out of Hof’s SSI and Medicaid, he’ll be happy??

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  43. I remember HH from the last time I spent a lot of hours perusing this site four or five years ago. I was sorry to see he’s still at it. Nice to see the old hands still here like Jenny, Sabrina, Homedelete and others, though.

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  44. ““Trump hasn’t done ANYTHING in office. Thank goodness, ”

    He didn’t take us to war in Syria like Hillary would have.
    He didn’t put an anti-American hater on the Supreme Court like she would have.
    He rolled back most of Obama’s excessive “executive orders”.
    Stock market is roaring.

    Best of all, our President “outs” all the right people for the rage and hate they have deep inside and now can’t contain. Now, the good see who the bad people are, like CNN, Hollywood, Weinstein, NFL players, late-night talk show bigots, etc. Even the soccer moms who voted for Obama and Hillary are wondering who these perverted and hostile people are, and why they arevnow unhinged. Trump will do even better with women (normal ones) in 2020.

    Isn’t it great to finally see our Democrat governor candidate FINALLY discuss Madigan and whether he should go? Finally, it’s only 2017 when they take up the point that the GOP and normal people have been saying for decades. Duh. I don’t know why Sabrina is so happy to live with a population of morons.

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  45. “the bad people are”

    They’re not bad people (other than Weinstein) – they’re just wrong and unfortunately really arrogant about it. They believe that their ‘credentials’ – whether than be college educated, from a UMC family, living in the right neighborhood in the proper east or left coast city, gives them a moral authority over those in flyover country who are slightly less educated, have slightly lower incomes and don’t tweet 40x a day. Their point of view was common among the European aristocracy hundreds of years ago, where they view everyone else as peasants. Think King Geoffrey or Queen Cercesi – looking down on everyone as a god damn peasant whose lives are unimportant. That’s basically the view most ‘credentialed’ D voters have taken of people who vote R or live in flyover country. Arrogance is the last of the seven deadly sins.

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  46. I’ve always assumed homedelete and helmethofer are the same person, which makes “conversations” between them pretty surreal.

    Although, I guess Sabrina has access to the IP addresses that they post from, so if she isn’t suspicious…

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  47. two different people., madeline. HH is a piece
    of garbage with an alt-right mental disorder. but to arrogant lakeshore liberals, all uncreditenialed peasants are the same, right? do you believe that all Republicans by their very nature are racist too? and all those who don’t tweet are trash? just like jenny said a few weeks ago, we have different political beliefs so we should
    be killed, right?

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  48. I believe that some liberals are arrogant and that some conservatives are arrogant. I think some Trump voters are stupid and some Hilary voters are stupid. I don’t think either party/political philosophy has cornered the market on hypocrisy.

    Funny how you made a lot of assumptions about me.

    all those who don’t tweet are trash – this is a really weird thing to believe. Do you actually know anyone who believes this? It doesn’t really seem to fit in with what a “liberal” would believe, since the most famous twitter user is the prez.

    Incidentally, there is a rather uncommon grammatical error that both you and HH make repeatedly.

    Have you ever used author attribution software? It’s fairly accurate. I wonder what the results would be if you compared a block of text from each of you.

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  49. “I’ve always assumed homedelete and helmethofer are the same person, which makes “conversations” between them pretty surreal.”

    They’re not.

    Homedelete actually knows something about Chicago’s housing market and is a welcome contributor to the discussion here. And, gasp, he lives in the Chicago area.

    HH doesn’t live in Chicago and makes only shallow comments about most of the real estate on this site.

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  50. “They’re not bad people (other than Weinstein) – they’re just wrong and unfortunately really arrogant about it. They believe that their ‘credentials’ – whether than be college educated, from a UMC family, living in the right neighborhood in the proper east or left coast city, gives them a moral authority over those in flyover country who are slightly less educated, have slightly lower incomes and don’t tweet 40x a day.”

    HD: you act like there are no Republicans in, say, California. Go to Bakersfield sometime! Lol.

    You are SO WRONG about what is going on in the country right now. It’s hard to believe as it hasn’t even been a year since the election laid it all out in the open.

    It has NOTHING to do with “flyover” country, as obviously, Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, Milwaukee, St. Louis, and Indianapolis are ALL in flyover country. Yet, they ALL voted for Hillary. Go figure.

    Same way, nearly every eastern county away from the coasts in California ALL voted for Trump. Huh. Go figure.

    The split has become city versus rural- whether or not you’re in flyover country or not. The obsession with “flyover” is completely wrong.

    And why is there that split? Because you have whackos like HH talking about how “bad” globalism is, wishing Amazon et. al would, apparently, go under (so that, you know, we can all order from Alibaba. Yippee!) They’re scared of multi-culturalism, while we in the cities see Spanish every day we commute on the bus and speak it fluently (gasp!). We’re the ones who get on the planes and vacation abroad (tickets are dirt cheap. Can fly LA to Beijing for just $398 – round trip. OMG.)

    We work for multinational companies in the cities. We have the option of living and working in London for 2 to 5 years or in Munich or in Dubai. And we’re doing it. I was in Hong Kong for work for 3 months.

    Our work colleagues are global. All of those people working for Chicago companies like McDonald’s and Wrigley are literally flying every month for business around the globe. Morningstar has hundreds of employees in China. It has offices in Sydney.

    There’s no going back. We ARE a global community now. And I want America to be at the forefront of that. I don’t want to use Alibaba or Weibo. No thanks. Thank god we invented Instagram. I’m not using some Russian app.

    So, yes, if it’s arrogance that those in the cities are global and have skill sets so much higher than those in the rural areas, then it is. The cities are where the jobs are. And you’d better keep up, or you’ll be left behind.

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  51. “Stock market is roaring.”

    Lol.

    Obama had one of the best stock market returns of ANY US President. Only Clinton was better. Record number of months of job creation (which just ended, unfortunately, due to the hurricanes, but it still ended.)

    The stock market is just doing what it has done for years. If we judged a President on the stock market, Obama would be one of our greatest (and so would Clinton.)

    The “stock market” doesn’t create jobs. The stock market makes the top 20% rich. That I grant you. All those democratic cities that voted for HRC are getting much, much richer as the stock market rises because those in the rural areas are much less likely to be in it.

    Where are all the jobs for those in Indiana? Where are all the coal jobs? Amazon has created more jobs in the last 5 years than the coal industry even HAS.

    Trump has spent 1 of every 4 days in the White House golfing. It’s a new record. I grant him that. Lol.

    By the way, there is no such thing as soccer moms anymore (this just tells you how old you are.) The soccer moms were Republican suburban women. They have voted Democratic for the last 12 years.

    And, just so you know HH (since you don’t live in Chicago or the state of Illinois), it has a Republican Governor.

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  52. “Just so long as the government keeps its hands out of Hof’s SSI and Medicaid, he’ll be happy??”

    Lol.

    He’s probably on Medicare, though. Unless the Medicaid is paying for his nursing home.

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  53. HH is most likely using a VPN to scramble his IP address. Makes it harder to trace where he’s coming from.

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  54. My problem with the republicans has everything to do with them turning into the Religious Party. I used to have some republican leanings, especially fiscally, but they have taken the party and turned it into a group of hateful people who blather on about how their religious rights are being trampled. Religious people in this country are given more rights than anyone else. You want to deny women healthcare coverage because it’s against your religion, that’s fine. Some moron wants to wash his feet multiple times a day in the sinks in a business office, that’s fine too. No one else’s beliefs are considered. Only the beliefs of the religious person matter.

    I like the Rauner type republican and will vote for him again. I’m unhappy that he caved on the budget, but he’s the type of republican that I can get behind.

    There are plenty of hateful democrats too (especially towards those who aren’t in unions) and their attitudes towards crime are just astounding. This lady was beaten for saying, “Hi,” to someone and she blames the crime not on him, but on “gentrification.” It exemplifies everything I dislike about democrats, where the blame is never put on the individual, but instead on “society” and if you disagree with them, then you’re labeled as a bad person: https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20171018/west-loop/west-loop-woman-good-morning-robbed-knocked-unconscious-aberdeen-fulton-video-sunday

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  55. “she blames the crime not on him, but on “gentrification.””

    The most absurd part of that is that no one’s home was “displaced” by gentrification in that part of the West Loop. To the extent that gentrification has a role, it’s that there is now a target area with easy access to the Ike.

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  56. “You want to deny women healthcare coverage because it’s against your religion, that’s fine. ”

    jenny, overall I find your reasoning very sound and agreeable. As for 0denying health care coverage to women, my understanding is that some employers wanted to use religion as grounds to not cover the pill under the ACA, which mandates coverage.

    As for the thugs out there, it is truly the wild west out there. In fact there are areas of chicago called teh wild 100’s where thugs rape and pillage and murder with reckless abandon like they are vikings raiding an unsuspecting village. It’s just so brazen these criminals these days. They think the world is their very own grand theft auto. It’s a criminal mindset that is pervasive, always looking to commit some crime and take whatever they want , whenever they want, with little fear of being caught. lately its been working its way into nice areas but this is the way its been in the gang areas for decades.

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  57. “some employers wanted to use religion as grounds to not cover the pill under the ACA”

    It is broader than just that, but that’s what those employers want everyone to think–that the objection is to birth control and abortion only.

    Stupid to let the discussion be 100% framed by the Fox/R/Evans side of things, but that’s what D’s do.

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  58. good post jenny, I totally agree with all of it!

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  59. I’ve voted for Republican statewide candidates like Rauner in the past (not for him, but for others). However, most of them seem to want to stick it to the city of Chicago.

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  60. anon(tfo) posted “some employers wanted to use religion as grounds to not cover the pill under the ACA”
    It is broader than just that, but that’s what those employers want everyone to think–that the objection is to birth control and abortion only.
    Stupid to let the discussion be 100% framed by the Fox/R/Evans side of things, but that’s what D’s do.

    wtf does that even mean? The employers, hd & fox/R/dwight evans et al are misdirecting & obsfuscating re actual reasons they oppose funding women’s health care but D’s are somehow wrongly framing the discussion? You make no sense again. Please re-frame the discussion for us

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  61. FO Southbound.

    I refuse to engage with you while you continue to be a needless d!ckhead.

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  62. madeline: you’re on the right track imo – they’re birds of a feather. Hh is a hate filled bigot who doesn’t pretend not to be. Imo based on his postings here hd is a closet white supremacist who subscribes to many if not most of hh’s prejudices but can’t stand for anyone else to associate him w/his core beliefs.

    hd cries crocodile tears when he’s associated w/hh: “..but to arrogant lakeshore liberals, all uncreditenialed peasants are the same, right? do you believe that all Republicans by their very nature are racist too? and all those who don’t tweet are trash? …”

    Imo I’m no lakefront liberal but I do recognize racist trash when it rears its ugly head. Ask hd to reprise his little rap diddy ode to Britney Spears

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  63. Sabrina: Obama had one of the best stock market returns of ANY US President. Only Clinton was better. Record number of months of job creation (which just ended, unfortunately, due to the hurricanes, but it still ended.)
    The stock market is just doing what it has done for years. If we judged a President on the stock market, Obama would be one of our greatest (and so would Clinton.)

    DJIA was just under 8000 when Obama took office and just under 20000 when he left. Pretty impressive.

    jenny: There are plenty of hateful democrats too (especially towards those who aren’t in unions) and their attitudes towards crime are just astounding.

    This is odd – a very small percentage of people in this country are in unions (11% of the workforce), do you really believe that democrats are “hateful” towards 89% of the workers in this country?
    Regarding crime, I don’t know what the answers are, but I think the rate of incarceration in this country is out of control, and I would welcome any solutions that didn’t involve building more privately owned prisons.

    homedelete: As for 0denying health care coverage to women, my understanding is that some employers wanted to use religion as grounds to not cover the pill under the ACA, which mandates coverage.

    Couple of things here: I don’t think we should talk about BC in terms of “the pill”, as a) there are myriad different pills used for BC and b) semi-permanent BC (IUD, injection, implant) is far more reliable and effective and these methods are beginning to supplant oral contraceptives.
    Also, BC is absolutely central to women’s health, and refusing to cover it is essentially saying that you don’t want to provide health insurance for women.

    As for the thugs out there, it is truly the wild west out there.

    No, it really isn’t. Violent crime is still (even after recent increases) lower than it was in the 90s and early 2000s.

    anon (tfo): Stupid to let the discussion be 100% framed by the Fox/R/Evans side of things, but that’s what D’s do.

    Not sure if this is the same thing that you’re referencing, but it infuriates me whenever the Ds frame contraception in terms of other health issues (heavy periods, endometriosis, cystic acne). Yes, all of those things are alleviated by hormonal BC, but most women use BC to, you know, prevent pregnancy. AND THAT SHOULD BE COVERED BY INSURANCE PLANS THAT WOMEN ARE PAYING FOR.

    Dan #2: I’ve voted for Republican statewide candidates like Rauner in the past (not for him, but for others). However, most of them seem to want to stick it to the city of Chicago.

    One of the big turn offs for me when it comes to the Republican party is the downright hostility towards urban issues.

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  64. “No, it really isn’t. Violent crime is still (even after recent increases) lower than it was in the 90s and early 2000s.”

    woooow crime is lower than the 90’s and 2000’s

    hang a banner

    There are still parts of this city that resemble a 3rd world country and are not safe even during daylight hours, its pathetic and nothing to be proud of

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  65. “hostility towards urban issues”

    Are you using standard code word, or do you actually mean “issues that most of the ~50 largest cities deal with”

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  66. Not a code word; I truly mean issues facing cities. (although republicans have hostility towards the standard code issues as well)

    There are still parts of this city that resemble a 3rd world country and are not safe even during daylight hours, its pathetic and nothing to be proud of

    This is absolutely true, but the use of scare tactics in discussing the issue helps no one.

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  67. You’re better off not believing the crime stats as published. Chicago is well-known for “juking the stats” to make itself look better as a city. I believe it was Chicago magazine that highlighted the propensity of the PD to reclassify an obvious homicide victim as a different type of crime victim in order to keep stats low.

    Also tie into that the fact there are fewer police on the street, replacement numbers aren’t doing much to fill the gap, and the lack of aggressive police work due to lawsuits means you can’t trust the stats. It’s really just smoke and mirrors to make people feel safe.

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  68. “This is odd – a very small percentage of people in this country are in unions (11% of the workforce), do you really believe that democrats are “hateful” towards 89% of the workers in this country?”

    In Illinois, yes. I have seen my property taxes nearly double to pay for union members to get huge pensions. How is it not hateful towards the middle class to ask us to support these union members in this way?

    Democrats work the system to try to garner sympathy for their voting block and make it seem OK for them to fleece those not in their voting block. If you don’t feel sorry for their voting block, you are labeled a bad person. I got into a fight with a friend not too long ago because I dared to say that I was sick of paying so much money for teachers’ pensions and her immediate argument was that teachers are poor and that they need that money, as though I don’t need my money? Then, she said that they have to pay for school supplies and I said that they are doing that voluntarily and she got angry and said she wasn’t discussing it anymore. I’ve been annoyed ever since and it’s actually hurt our friendship.

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  69. You need to separate real unions (skilled trades) Vs AFSME and their ilk.

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