Duplex Penthouse Loft Listed $120K Under the 2004 Price: 540 N. Lake Shore Drive in Streeterville
Who knew there were duplex lofts in 540 N. Lake Shore Drive in Streeterville?
This 2-bedroom penthouse unit just came on the market and it has soaring two-story walls of brick in the living room and a spiral staircase up to the second floor bedroom area.
The kitchen has granite counter tops and stainless appliances.
It has central air and a washer/dryer in the unit. There is no deeded parking with the building. It is rental only.
The unit also comes with rare private roof rights so if you want to spring some extra money for it, you can have your architect build a private deck so you can watch the Navy Pier fireworks.
Is this a steal at under the 2004 and, apparently, also the 2000 price?
Amanda McMillan at Prudential Rubloff has the listing. See more pictures here.
Unit #710: 2 bedrooms, 1.5 baths, no square footage listed
- Sold in March 1999 for $272,500
- Sold in February 2000 for $426,000
- Sold in October 2004 for $520,000
- Currently listed at $399,900
- Assessments are $892 a month (includes the heat)
- Taxes are $6280
- Parking is rental in the building
- Central Air
- Washer/dryer in the unit
- Bedroom #1: 18×15
- Bedroom #2: 17×9
- Living room: 21×19
- Family room: 16×7
- Kitchen: 14×11
There are NO DOGS allowed in this building.
Kenworthey, this is your unit!
I never thought I’d say that a property had too much exposed brick, but coupled with the small windows in that place, it looks a lot like a luxury prison cell.
agreed, those small windows make this unit look horrible. Also the use of space/layout is horrible.
Where does the spiral staircase in the bathroom lead too??? I have truely never seen that before.
The outside wall needs to be floor-to-ceiling windows, or at least for the bottom half of it. Too depressing.
Place is built like a monastery, but the no dogs rule is worth paying a premium for, IMO.
I’ll never live in a “dog-friendly” building again.
“Where does the spiral staircase in the bathroom lead too??? I have truely never seen that before.”
To the roof, is my best guess.
It looks like roof access comes from the loft. there is a small set of stairs and glass doors in that room.
maybe the spiral stairs is a second entrance to the roof. Either way who would want to have to go through the bathroom to that the stairs anywhere.
Might they go from a first level half-bath to an upstairs bedroom?
It probably annoys the owners to “rent parking” in the unit. In the picture taken from the upstairs, it looks like at some point they might have actually removed the some window. It looks like they might have had water problems? Is that going to be just an aesthetic blemish or could it be a sign of other problems. I suppose it adds to the vintage charm.
“I’ll never live in a “dog-friendly” building again.”
I can’t blame you, I have two dogs which while not perfect, at least don’t bark very often, and some of the other dogs on just my floor are REDICULOUSLY LOUD and annoy the hell out of me! Thank god there’s very thick cement walls in my building. I can’t imagine living somewhere that was ‘dog friendly’ if I didn’t own one myself.
Also, this place gets a giant “WTF were they going for?” from me.
“I’ll never live in a “dog-friendly” building again.”
Haters. Even most “dog-friendly” buildings have rules that can be enforced against loud or dogs that behave badly. So maybe go tht route instead of lumping my perfect dogs into your gripe. 🙂
“I’ll never live in a “dog-friendly” building again.”
Haters. Even most “dog-friendly” buildings have rules that can be enforced against loud or dogs that behave badly. So maybe go that route instead of lumping my perfect dogs into your gripe. 🙂
Heh–you are right, David! I’ve actually been intrigued by this building for a while. But I sure wish there were floorplans posted, because I cannot, for the life of me, figure out the layout.
“I’ll never live in a “dog-friendly” building again.”
I see people all the time with huge dogs living in a 1br/1ba highrise. Completely absurd.
“I see people all the time with huge dogs living in a 1br/1ba highrise. Completely absurd.”
Thats what balconies are for. Especially in colder months, let Fido go, the liquids fall through the cracks, let the solids freeze, then sweep ’em off the balcony lol.
Yeah its incredibly disgusting I hope its not that common.
“I see people all the time with huge dogs living in a 1br/1ba highrise. Completely absurd.”
Since when do big dogs need their own bedroom and bathroom? If you are relying on the size of your place to exercise your dog then there’s a bigger problem.
“Since when do big dogs need their own bedroom and bathroom? If you are relying on the size of your place to exercise your dog then there’s a bigger problem.”
True that, my dogs sleep in their crates most of the time anyway, they don’t need a big space. Take them outside often and its fine.
Which dogs are yours Sonies? I live in your building currently and am just curious.
Ok, working in construction back in the day, that exposed brick is scaring me, i know it adds to the vintage look, but i would definatly have the inspector look it over carefully, i see many issues just from the picture.
now this is a place that can benefit from a floor plan…..stairs in the deuce room going up to the loft or den or roof or neighbors or water closet.
I understand that to some dog owners, keeping a dog in a cage 40 hours or more a week is necessary, but I find the practice abhorrent and sadistic. How would you like to be cooped in cage all day?
I can’t believe the inside has all the brick? I have see others in this building, they look a lot nicer, this has a loft feeling.
“How would you like to be cooped in cage all day?”
Beats working, at least they just sleep together all day while were gone.
Hippo – I have two staffordshire terrier mixes. You’d know them if you saw them.
And how exactly do they clean/open those windows you can’t reach?
The problem of doggies doing their bidness on balconies/patios is not relegated to renters who don’t give a damn in sketch buildings filled with college students. For instance, I was at 340 on the Park the other day, in a unit overlooking one of the big terrace units. My friend complained that in the winter, the owner simply lets her little dog out on the terrace. The neighbors complained, owner was told to stop and did for a little while, but then started again.
I’ve actually known of this happening in many, many places. I’ve even talked to dog owners who are surprised that others consider this offensive.
I think lots of people get dogs, without really internalizing what it means to have a creature who depends on you, to exercise it and take it outside at least 2 times a day (and preferably 3).
Although dog ‘experts’ do recommend kenneling your dogs early on (to get the den or pack mentality going) I too am totally against the practice. If you have to cage them when you are not home for fear of their destructive side, then you, as an owner have not done your job of properly training them.
I have a Golden/Chow mix who is 12 yo and she has always had free run of my (her) homes. While I did kennel her when I first brought her home from the shelter, that phase lasted only 9 months. I would leave the door to it open and she would go in and out as she wanted. I am fortunate to never have had any problems with her damaging my furniture/homes. She accompanies me most days when I am out at job sites and loves the freedom of wondering around on her own.
Having a dog is a HUGE responsibility but I would much prefer having her over a kid anyday…same goes for my rentals. In my experience, children cause more damage than most dogs.
That’s an idea I would love to implement, a security deposit for each kid and dogs would be free!
“Although dog ‘experts’ do recommend kenneling your dogs early on (to get the den or pack mentality going) I too am totally against the practice. If you have to cage them when you are not home for fear of their destructive side, then you, as an owner have not done your job of properly training them.”
Thanks Cesar Milan. I apologize for not training my dogs properly then. They seem to be doing ok.
Not only is westloopelo a real estate guru, he’s a dog whisperer as well and is clearly better at raising his dog than you are.
So what are you bitching at me about Jon? You seem to have two different views on the dog training subject. First you say your dogs are perfect, then in the next post you admonish those lazy owners by saying “If you are relying on the size of your place to exercise your dog then there’s a bigger problem.” You are doing the same thing you are accusing me of doing?
Sonies, get the f over yourself. Read my post again. “While I did kennel her when I first brought her home from the shelter, that phase lasted only 9 months. I would leave the door to it open and she would go in and out as she wanted. I am fortunate to never have had any problems with her damaging my furniture/homes.”
Is it nature or nuture with dogs? Am I in fact a Cesar Milan or did I just get lucky in choosing a dog who was ‘programmed’ to be a very well behaved dog? Who knows, all I was doing was giving my opinion on the caging of dogs and how it worked for me.
In the end though, I BELIEVE, IT IS MY OPINION, that dogs are like kids. If you teach them properly, do all you can to train them to fit into your life and home, then the kennel shouldn’t be needed after the first year. Right? Or can you read something else in that statement?
You guys have to be seriously overly sensitive and dramatically insecure if you read things into posts that do not even contain any judgement or negativity. Get over your bad selves! WOW
I agree with the majority of posters here in questioning many aspects of this unit.
First, as Groove stated there seems to be some problems with the brick. I would guess there is or at one time was some water leaking through the roof. I have seen exposed brick on two hundred year old buildings that were flawless, so the questionable part does send up some red flags.
That spiral staircase in the bathroom? The weird funky windows? I too cannot figure out the floorplan. A 16×7 family room and a 17×9 bedroom?
On a positive note, the option of a private roof space in that area is an asset. And the ‘soaring brick wall’ could be a good thing had it not been for the apparent water damage/poorly executed wall patch/window removal.
I don’t know, without more info and a floorplan the sellers will continue to have a hard time finding a buyer.
Thanks Sonies. If I see them, I’ll say hello. Fyi, my wife and I have an english bulldog, feel free to so the same.
Kind Regards.
westloop,
your in the biz so correct me if i am wrong,
what i can tell from the pictures those wall have been sand blasted. and the tuckpointing repair job by the window shows that the mud didnt even set before another leak started.
but this is based on me eyeballing a picture.
Am I the only one who think homedelete has the most ignorant comments on here? Homedelete (whom I wish I could delete), dogs are den animals – and are most comfortable in small, enclosed spaces. While us humans might thing a crate is “inhumane” (get it?), it is not “incanine”. They like it, are comfortable with it, and as a benefit to us humans, learn their best manners when their humans use a crate for them.
I have now digressed like the rest of this site from discussing real estate to something that is absolutely irrelevant.
Very hard to tell just from some poorly lit pictures, but it is obvious some repair work had been done under the window and there was/is still water damage on the top of the wall (where the white stuff is). Not sure which portion of the brick is original and which is the repaired area. I am sure during the conversion it was sandblasted and the windows were replaced later. Again, I am not sure exactly what happened as the pics aren’t real clear.
Would you attempt a fix at this point or just leave it and call it character?
When I first bought my (not yet renovated warehouse loft) place in NY, there were many areas on the brick walls that looked like this. Originally there were huge metal framed industrial windows that were replaced with smaller, wood framed windows or the window openings were bricked over all together. The smaller replacement windows did not fit the old spaces so I ended up having several shades of brick on all the exterior facing walls.
After I replaced the windows with near original styles and removed the bricks that were used to patch the openings, I sand blasted the crap out of the brick, especially the two rows that I had to leave intact. I then applied a few coats of concrete stain on all walls in an attempt to ‘match’ the original shade of brick.
It ended up being a long, hard and costly process. I took a huge chance in using concrete stain on brick and mortar, but in the end it all worked out great. At this point you cannot tell where the repairs were made.
I am thinking the same or similar process would need to be implemented here but I imagine the exterior is just as flawed, so that would be a whole other, more expensive issue.
i think HD is cool, ignorant some time, funny sometime, and has knowledge to share.
yes he is the forever downer on real estate and thinks everything is overpriced (in a sense it still is). but he has a point when a 2/2 condo’s are going for 600k, and when areas like albany park are still around 500k.
back to the property if the brick is like this in all other units, special assesments will be comming.
Westloop didnt answer my question 🙁
Westloop did answer my question 🙂
PJL, keeping a dog in a cage is selfish and sadistic. Your flawed and illogical analogy is nothing more than an irrational and fabricated justification.
Now, furthermore, I’m not ignorant, you all are drinking the real estate kool-aid. Everyone thinks that I’m waiting for the deal of the century so I can buy a house I would not otherwise be able to afford, and most people think that’s just not going to happen. The kool-aid is affecting your judgment because that’s not what I’m saying.
Many of you are too young to remember what 1999 real estate pricing was like but it was a heck of a lot more affordable than it is now. And 1998/1999 was a fairly normal market (in Chicago). Prices are heading back to 1999 and your futile protests and hateful comments won’t change the tide of the market. What the bubble giveth the bubble shall take away.
One of the few properties on cribchatter that was decently priced was the row house in Andersonville that sold for $300 something within a couple of days, and everyone here said it was under priced, but it was actually appropriately priced, that’s why it sold so quickly. Then I pointed out the definition of arms length transaction, for which every aspect of the property qualified, and it was nickpicked and you all fought with me.
The fact of the matter is that most real estate should and will be priced well into a strata far below what 99% of posters on this board believe is insanely low. And that pricing is generally around 1999. My view is not a fringe view either. 2 years ago it was but today more and more people are accepting the truth.
A handful of fence-sitters are ‘snapping’ up properties with the $8,000 tax credit and FHA loans but just wait and see what happens this winter when the credit expires.
“Now, furthermore, I’m not ignorant,”
Hd, bro i was sticking up for ya, didnt mean to offend ya. sorry about that. i will owe you a dinner a sabatino’s if you are still offended.
westloop,
“I then applied a few coats of concrete stain on all walls in an attempt to ‘match’ the original shade of brick”
85% of the time that works. another way is look for demo sites you can usually steal/take some good face brick that is vintage/old to match.
thank you for defending me groove, i was more concerned with the posts of others rather than yours. i’m from a working class background like you and it pains me to see families who bought during the boom now losing their homes b/c they too drank the kool-aid peddled by a few higher income individuals with a vested interest in selling whatever to whomever. I have family members who drank the kool-aid despite my objections and now they too are discovering the terrible side effects of their poison of choice. The lower and middle classes had to pay way more than they could afford because even the entry level was extremely overpriced. The people at the top of the market, like those with SFH or large condos in the city, are looking down below and are trying to convince themselves that significant price declines will never happen in their ‘hood, or zip, or building. Massive declines are coming and i too would be fearful if I drank the kool-aid in ’06 and spent more than half a million on a piece of real estate during the boom.
Your knowledge on real estate is valuable HD, however your knowledge of dogs is terrible. Stick to what you know, nobody gives a shit if you think keeping dogs crated while people are out of the house is “selfish and sadistic” because its not.
Potential window leakage aside….I must be the only one, but I think this place has a LOT to offer.
Let’s start with the kitchen: Cool backsplash, covered refrigerator and one of those neat pull out dishwashers. Not those crap cabinets and 4 inch builder special backsplashes that you see in so many other units in this ‘hood and RN as well.
Bathroom: Yeah staircase might take some getting accustomed to but look at all of that storage in that (potentially) custom cabinet work.
The brick wall is easily softened with some floor to ceiling window coverings that cover the blemishes in the wall and all around soften the place. From the leather couches, it might be a bachelor pad now.
Being able to see the fireworks from your own roof deck. Fantastic! I was once able to see them from my sofa in this hood and I have been ruined ever since.
Net/net: I would take this over a cookie cutter 2b/2b in most of the surrounding buildings. Just another opinion…..
FDIC Considers Borrowing From Treasury
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125328162000123101.html#mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTWhatsNews
Wow what a “shocker” and a “startling about face”.
In other good news kiddos, the FHA says they’re NOT going to need a bailout and they have the best forecasters in the world and are highly confident in their prediction:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125328361187423115.html#mod=WSJ_hps_LEFTWhatsNews
“David Stevens, the agency’s commissioner, however, said in an e-mailed statement that FHA “will not require taxpayer assistance.”
Alright Mr. Stevens we surely believe you. And there are no Americans in Baghdad either.
That’s rich. Dogs are denning animals.
homedelete on September 18th, 2009 at 9:01 am
PJL, keeping a dog in a cage is selfish and sadistic. Your flawed and illogical analogy is nothing more than an irrational and fabricated justification.
Now, furthermore, I’m not ignorant..
HD
“it pains me to see families who bought during the boom now losing their homes ”
it really sucks, the boom f’ed up alot of shyt. the supply and demand thing with banks giving loans to everyone screwed up the starter home market. when starter homes are 400k-500k in a marginal hood now after the crash we know its still f’d up.
my hood is full of forclosures and short sales. i have seen good family’s around my place get the boot. its very typical in my area with many factory workers who during the good times were getting about 20 hour overtime a week that easily could afford a nice 2br SFH starter home but some how drank the kool aid and bought a 4br SFH twice the sq ft and when thier over time was cut they had the cousins and aunts move in to supplement the income. then when thier regular hours were cut fell behind and now have no home.
yeah dog/wolfs only really den during birthing season. and that’s for females too. Single males usually roam in bachelor packs.
Housing market is not all one pov or another. There are deals and there are steals (where the bank and seller steal from you). The question is what is the value of that going forward.
I disagree with HD for the areas with SFH/2-flats, can’t ignore the cost of the work going into those project and forecast ’99 prices. As far as condos and the green zone, it will be its own mrkt, I really thought for sure the condo market would do worse than SFH. and it might.
There’s a floorplan on the http://www.540lsd.net website, not sure it shows this unit accurately though.
“Having a dog is a HUGE responsibility but I would much prefer having her over a kid anyday…same goes for my rentals. In my experience, children cause more damage than most dogs.”
I’m not a landlord, but I AM a parent and therefore clearly, an expert on the subject of kids, so…say WHAT? Unless you’re renting to Rosemary’s Baby or that kid “who came back” in Pet Cemetery, there is no way that kids do more damage than dogs. At least, kids of “good” parents.
(Caveat: I could definitely see this being true if you’re renting to shitbag parents, but hopefully, when you’re beginning the renting process, you get a sense of “who” the people are, what kind of tenants they are to avoid such “parents,” you know?)
” there is no way that kids do more damage than dogs. At least, kids of “good” parents.”
That’s a little judgmental, MrsB. It’s entirely possible for good parents to have “shitbag” kids (born bad, like Elton), and even kids who turn out great can be unholy terrors when they are 2, 3, 4. I don’t have that direct experience, either, but I know it happens.
Isn’t this supposed to be a discussion regarding real estate, not kids or dogs?
“Isn’t this supposed to be a discussion regarding real estate, not kids or dogs?”
Okay, Phil, we’ll try harder to maintain an abstract discussion that ignores those who inhabit real estate, just to keep you happy.
I’m sorry, I don’t see the relevancy of discussing the relative destructive properties of kids vs. dogs, followed up by a socialogical debate regarding good/bad parents having good/bad kids. Maybe it’s just me, but I’d rather read people’s comments on the property itself. Call me crazy 🙂
“a socialogical debate”
Two comments do not make a debate.
And, to tie this comment back to the property, I am *certain* (w/o having been in the unit) that the floorplan on the 540 website does NOT accurately show this unit, although the outer walls are probably the same as ’10s on lower floors.
LMAO anon…as a parent, you can go ahead and consider me fit to judge. If I was a non-parent, then yes, it could be considered “judgmental.” If you’re a parent and can bring your own anecdotal evidence to the table, then great. In my experience, however, there is no question that dogs can do far more damage to a property than a child. Now, when you’re getting into “Octomom” proportions of children, then yes, I’d take a Cavalier King Charles anyday.
And Phil, my man, you haven’t been around here in a while. While this is a “real estate” based website, yes, these convos can and often do devolve into something else entirely. Apparently you missed an earlier thread about pizza…? Learn it, live it, love it.
MrsB,
You have a lot to learn about being a landlord. Especially if you believe you can accurately assess the amount of wear and tear a family will inflict on your unit from one meeting. A credit check would help but generally minor faux pas don’t wind up on it–only evictions. Being a landlord is rolling the dice.
Blah, blah, blah. Of COURSE I’d have a lot to learn being a landlord – I’ve never been one and hopefully never will! But, unless you’re a parent? You have no leg to stand on in this argument. Period. Kids v. dogs? As a parent of BOTH, it is literally a laughable argument. In fact, my husband and I laughed about this earlier…silly internet folk.
Mrs B… I’ll put my two big dogs up against your kids any day of the week. They won’t even cross a different floor substance without asking permission.
Last house I bought I was cleaning crayola off the wall from the 5 yr old for a year.
Hold up – if you want to compare the capabilities of my child to your mangy mutt(s), then you have some serious priority issues you need to work out. Because let’s be honest, you won’t see my kid scootching his ass over the carpet to work out a turd, mmmkaay? 😛
And frankly, if your latest landlord venture included YOU cleaning crayola off a wall, then you either FAIL as a landlord or a buyer. There are terrible parents out there, I give you; but if you were lucky enough to have someone like me rent from you, then count yourself blessed.
“If I was a non-parent, then yes, it could be considered “judgmental.” If you’re a parent and can bring your own anecdotal evidence to the table, then great.”
Yes, a parent. No, no parent-based anecdotes. Yes, still think that good parents can have “bad” kids, based on knowing good people with sh!thead kids.
Yes, think that saying either (a) only “bad” parents would have kids who would be extra hard on a rental unit, or (b) all kids would be extra hard on a rental unit, is judgmental in a way that is not a positive reflection on the person making the presumptions.
“Last house I bought I was cleaning crayola off the wall from the 5 yr old for a year.”
My 5-yo has never drawn on the walls–ever. Nor has he attempted to put anything into a dvd player or other electronic device. Really the most house-damaging thing he has done is drop stuff–which is roughly equivalent to a big dog clomping around. And, since he never, ever pisses on the carpet, puts him ahead of a dog on the wear-n-tear scale. So, really, it just depends.
Although lets be honest folks: after the bubble most damage done by pets or kids is going to be miniscule in financial impact to the amateur landlord compared to the cash they are hemmoraging each month trying to cover their carry costs.
*Unless its a 200+lb kid named Tiny who watches WWE or a big freakin’ dog!
Mrs B,
My wonderful dogs still listen to me 100%. Let me know how those kids of yours are when they hit their teens. 🙂
this dog/kids debate is some funny stuff.
i know me as a kid 5 years and younger, (mom tells this story all the time) found a marker while the parents fell asleep and proceed to draw on EVERYTHING and the new couch got caught when i started to draw on moms face (my first start into the world of graffiti)
now the groove as parents have no clue what we are doing, and little groove favors all the stuff he his not supposed to touch/play with/find and can only expect him to become faster, smarter and sneakier.
now our cats and dog have the potential to do more damage than little groove but so far kept it to a minimum. besides one windowsill that the cats like to sit and watch the birds in the yard, that window are is jacked up!
so i guess both kids and pets can cause damage to a place some more than others!!! i guess its a wash.
wanna know what causes the most damage to a place? when groove makes his super hot as freinds have named it groove’s “why in the world would you do that” chili. after those dinner parties the grooves bathrooms are a tornado after math.
I hear that, Ze – I’m already afraid!
Bob, LOL re: Tiny. Truly a frightening proposition.
GROOVE! The chili story…ack! The visual, the visual! But I do admire your cojones to go after your sleeping mom’s face with a marker. I’m literally laughing as I write this…too funny.
“i know me as a kid 5 years and younger, (mom tells this story all the time) found a marker while the parents fell asleep and proceed to draw on EVERYTHING and the new couch got caught when i started to draw on moms face (my first start into the world of graffiti)”
So, in MrsB’s world, your parents sukd. And I contend that that’s not necessarily true–>could just be you were a bad kid, despite having great parents.
Ummm, no. I don’t believe I ever said that ALL parents of kids who do damage are bad. My point was that if you’re renting to shady parents, then you’re probably going to get children who won’t be so kind to your unit. If that’s judgmental, then awesome. I’m fine with that.
” I don’t believe I ever said that ALL parents of kids who do damage are bad.”
What other conclusion are we to draw from this:
“Unless you’re renting to Rosemary’s Baby or that kid “who came back” in Pet Cemetery, there is no way that kids do more damage than dogs. At least, kids of “good” parents.” … “I could definitely see this being true if you’re renting to shitbag parents”
Kids of “good” parents don’t do more damage than a dog, ergo, kids who do more damage than a dog have “not good” (ie “bad” or “shitbag”) parents.
Where does that interpretation breakdown?
Also, Phil, my apologies, this has turned into a sociological debate. Please avert your eyes.
Okay, we’re getting lost in translation. Here’s my breakdown: “Good” parents, those who take the time to properly discipline their children, provide structure and stability in their children’s lives, and generally work hard to love and take care of their children don’t *usually* have children who will run buck wild on a rental, destroying all that’s in its path like a mini-godzilla. IMO, bad parents (and working at a time with DCFS, I’ve seen my fair share) do none of those things and have children whose behavior reflect that laziness. Of COURSE some children of parental group A can yield a marker-wielding 5 y.o., and I’d venture to guess that’s pretty darn normal and not a reflection on the parent. However, my original point is still obviously valid: if a landlord should rent to parental group B, and I submit that this group isn’t *that* difficult to spot, then yes, bad decision. And in those cases, children would be harder on a unit than a dog. Annnnnnnnnnnd now, we’re full circle…
Poor Phil.
*of, not “on”
hi phill, sorry 🙁
its 60% parents and 40% the kids, now my parents were the best parents anyone could have and they did a great job with me (given how bad i was and i eventually turned out).
now i was the kid who would do some messed up stuff but never get in trouble with teachers/police/neighbors for the main reason that the teachers/police/neighbors would always think “he is a good kid he coulndt have done it” or “he is very a smart, polite, well mannered boy it must have been that red headed boy down the street”.
well actually it was my parents fault, they taught me manners, respect, and intelligence and i in turn used that to do bad things and charm my way out of it 🙂
“GROOVE! The chili story…ack! The visual, the visual!”
its not grooves chili that jacks the stomach, it all the milk my guest drink to stop the mouth burning.
its funny how we get more people coming each time i make the chili. (only twice a year cause my colon cant take it)
The coolest thing about this loft building is the lobby – so $400k and $1300 in tax/assess? No way -we looked here in the no-neighborhood, what the heck is there around here but LSD traffic noise and, well, that’s it – we bought in 400 n wabash – $200k less and a quick what, 4 blocks, 5 minute walk west – the loft thing is sooooo 90s
This place is amazing- Its got its own rooftop access which has over 700sq ft. roof top deck area.
the spiral stairs go up to a room thats about 10×8 use it as a bedroom, den, whatever.