2-Bedroom Old Norwood Park Brick Ranch Now Even Cheaper At Under $195K: 5646 N. Nottingham
We last chattered about this 2-bedroom brick ranch at 5646 N. Nottingham in Old Norwood Park in March 2012.
See our prior chatter here.
Back in March, it was priced at $220,ooo and most, if not all of you, thought that was a decent price for a house in a neighborhood considered safe and with some of the best schools in the city.
Some of you thought it was a real steal for those with just one child.
But apparently the chatterati was in the minority on this one because the house is still on the market and has been reduced to just $193,000.
If you recall, it has just 1075 square feet but has a full basement.
Built in 1949 on a 50×100.5 lot, it has a side drive with a 1-car garage.
It looks to be an estate sale, as I couldn’t find any prior sales information.
It’s within walking distance of the blue line and is surrounded by more expensive homes.
How low will this go?
Tina Marie Campbell at Baird & Warner still has the listing. See the pictures here.
5646 N. Nottingham: 2 bedrooms, 1.5 baths, 1075 square feet, 1 car garage
- I couldn’t find any prior sales information
- Was listed in March 2012 for $220,000
- Reduced
- Currently listed at $193,000
- Taxes of $860
- Central Air
- Bedroom #1: 12×10
- Bedroom #2: 11×10
In my neighborhood we call this a ‘tear down’.
“In my neighborhood we call this a ‘tear down’.”
But don’t we need middle class housing?
If they removed the awning and car port, the curb appeal would be vastly improved.
“But don’t we need middle class housing?”
Not in HD’s fancypants suburb. Leave that middle class housing for someplace like Palatine.
How does 5153 N Nottingham fare as a comp?
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5153-N-Nottingham-Ave-60656/home/13504754?utm_source=myredfin&utm_campaign=listings_update&utm_medium=email
It is south of the Kennedy as opposed to north of it.
– 3 Bedrooms
– 1.5 Baths
– Just sold for 155K
“In my neighborhood we call this a ‘tear down’.”
In my neighborhood, we call this a “cash buy.”
Seriously, if these neighbors talk to each other, it’s getting clsoe to the point where it’s a no brainer to split the lot. Especially with a 50′ W lot. . . .
2 beds and functionally obselete. The middle class can do without this home.
If the basement were dry this could be a nice little fixer-upper…. but the basement photo seems to indicate there has been flooding.
“Seriously, if these neighbors talk to each other, it’s getting clsoe to the point where it’s a no brainer to split the lot. Especially with a 50? W lot. . . .”
I’d happily split it with any neighbor of mine.
Note the really odd shaped lot in comparison to the neighbors to the south. Looks like a one off lot due to he two homes on Talcott that have garages behind this property. My guess is that the short Depth has a lot to do with why this home has not sold.
Used to park right there on Talcott for years and take the blue line downtown as it was not zoned parking. Nice hood. Had three friends that lived in that immediate area in similar homes. They all liked the area.
“But don’t we need middle class housing?”
Brillant! Yes Chicagoland needs middle class housing, the problem is that people here don’t want middle class housing. Sure they want the middle class asking price, but attached to a 3br/2.5 bath/2 car parking/AC/laundry/yard/good schools/transportation… in LP/LV, or even bigger and better in Naper-tucky.
The reality is that a nice house like this one (even nicer with a little work) is exactly what a young professional family *should* be buying. After the student loan payments, car payments, insurances, utilities, savings for retirement (don’t count on SS after your baby boom parents get done with it), food, taxes, gas, entertainment, rainy day fund, programs for your gifted offsprings, on and on, a house like this would most likely leave you financially comfortable at the end of the day. But therein lies the rub.
After being systematically assured by your parents, the media, corporations, and society that you’re special (‘Baby on Board’… stay the f*ck back!), unique, that the world is yours for the taking, somehow ending up in a *sensible* ranch in the burbs wasn’t quite on your imaginary radar while growing up, now was it. I see a perfectly nice family house that’s within your actual means, you see your tombstone.
Jay,
I get your point, But does middle class housing have to be this ugly?
Jay – Welcome to CC. Thanks for a perfect comment on this thread. Everyone wants more than they can or should afford. You see them do it with food, vacations, homes, cars, and heck even their expensive cups of coffee. They all buy into that “small extra luxury” and “you deserve it” mentality.
The reality for our next step is to buy a home that can be paid off in 15 years. That is just not too difficult. The 30 year mortgage is a pipe dream that few people are actually making happen. I have a friend that i worked with in the mid 90’s that has refinanced his Naperville home at least six times (that I’m aware of) over the last 15 years. Had the idiot just switched to a 15 year and left it alone he would be debt free by now. Instead he set to a new 30 year term each time and still likely owes on that house for another 20 years. That made no sense at all…..
Dan 2 – true point and another reason that homes in this area at the same or slightly higher have sold while this one sat. We just finished de-uglying my parents home. Pulled up the rugs and refinished those awesome wood floors. A new tear off roof was installed. Then we spackled, sanded, and painted all the walls. Fianlly we threw away old window coverings, scrubbed every surface, and cleared ot the weeds etc. It looks great and will be going on the market soon.
I considered updating the bathrooms and kitchen and held off. Everything is clean and in working order.Yes I can definitely hear Sabrina saying people pay for new and regret not taking that extra step but the time and energy to manage that project is just not something I have right now.
Now we have an anomaly. It is a great “function home” with a few mostly dated “form” issues. Hopefully we will find a buyer that wants to finish the k&b’s to their preference over time but will still reward us for making every other surface move in ready right now. Time will tell.
This place is fine and a completely reasonable middle class home. hd is just a snob now!
Say taxes increase to 2400 or so, with as little as 5% down (9650) you’re looking at a
881 mortgage payment + 200 taxes =1081 a month with 300+ going to principal
You’re tellin me you can find a better deal than that renting?
Yes it needs a little updating but a middle class household could easily afford this place in a nice safe neighborhood!
I agree it would look better without the carport. I’d also take the window awning down.
There are 1950s ranch homes that look all right, and some even have nice interiors. This isn’t one of them, but perhaps with a dedicated owner, it could get better.
That said, it has exactly the same layout as a 50’s ranch home a close relative of mine grew up in, and I hated being there. It was cramped, the bedrooms were tiny and the whole place felt cheap. I’m not sure lifting up the rugs and re-doing the kitchen would make a house like this all that appealing.
‘But does middle class housing have to be this ugly?’
That’s what the greater public said about all the solid brick homes in LP at one time (ugly) – you couldn’t give these things away 30+ years ago. Narrow, dark, cramped, lacking conveniences/closets/family rooms/bathrooms, completely un-modern, I heard it all when I bought mine, and ironically I still read the same things here from time to time. I assure you, my friends who bought entire houses in the West Village of NY (now selling for $6M+) heard the same things, and around the time The Cosby Show hit tv the overall perception of vintage townhouse living changed. So be a leader and not a follower – with a bit of renovation and imagination, this could be a great house that’s still *within* one’s financial means. The rules have changed, debt will BURY you (literally) in the long run.
Jay,
If you tell me that this is the sort of home a middle-class family should buy rather than trying to get something above their means, that makes sense.
But I don’t buy your argument that someday people will consider such homes attractive. Unlike the Lincoln Park and West Village homes you refer to, places like this have absolutely no charm, and were typically built cheaply, with thin walls and leaky basements. There are thousands of identical 50’s ranch homes throughout the city and suburbs, and they will never be more than cheap family housing. While I acknowledge their necessity, I don’t think many would ever argue that they’re aesthetically pleasing.
“I get your point, But does middle class housing have to be this ugly?”
This house is too small, and the Sixties and Seventies-era suburban housing stock is too ugly and crapshack. I honestly don’t know who wants either product type. I honestly believe that everyone assumes Mexicans will eventually buy the homes. The kids that grew up in the subject house do not want to raise families in them today. The suburbanites that grew up in the aluminum siding subdivision houses with 8 ft. ceilings, crappy patio sliding doors, concrete patios, lame landscaping, etc. don’t want to raise their families in those things either.
Dan2 – you are a bit off here. Many homes in Norwood and EP were built quite well. The are often all brick with plaster walls and the old 2×4’s construction. They are solid, quiet, and will stand the test of time. As for aesthetically pleasing some are much better than others. They will continue to serve the families that choose them well!
“…and around the time The Cosby Show hit tv the overall perception of vintage townhouse living changed.”
That’s an interesting and memorable comment. We talked about it before, but around the time of the movie My Bodyguard, city living was still not the norm or considered hip or urbane, etc. In 1982, Rush was singing a hit song called subdivisions and regional malls were thriving.
Are the $860 taxes a mistake, or due to it being vacant?
“Are the $860 taxes a mistake, or due to it being vacant?”
I’d speculate senior exemption or senior freeze.
Not the ones built in the 50s and 60s. The well-built ones are much older.
“Dan2 – you are a bit off here. Many homes in Norwood and EP were built quite well. The are often all brick with plaster walls and the old 2×4?s construction. They are solid, quiet, and will stand the test of time.”
I so agree with Jay: this is totally nice house, where a couple could raise a family and not be totally strapped financially. Teardown, HD? How is that commute going?
FYI: I don’t mean to be mean; I’m just teasing you, HD, because you basically said (for polemical purposes, I hope, since you see so many bankruptcies daily) that this was a worthless house? How can that be so? It is fairly well maintained, with easy access to the el and O’Hare AND reasonably priced. This is what young families should be buying.
Wow, talk about going on a tangent. This house has a lot of problems and in this market buyers can be a little picky. It has nothing to do with buyers hating on suburban housing.
This house has a one car garage AND a ‘car port’. It looks like it has original ‘everything’ (except furnace and hot water heater which prob had to be replaced after a flood). Look at the wonderful green tile on the staircase wall leading to the basement. It costs money to fix that. The kitchen needs to be gutted to the studs and baseboards. There’s no ‘updating’ that with stainless steel appliances. There’s of course one ‘park ridge pink’ bathroom typical of the 1950’s post-war housing. The house is also small, less than 1,100 sq feet. It has only two bedrooms – these days most families with two kids have at least 3 bedrooms. the hardwood floor underneath the carpet (pray to god it’s not some nasty tile or parquet) may be full of staple holes and needs to be refinished. The basement needs a complete overhaul and the bedrooms are smallish. It also has only a 100′ lot in an area of really nice homes and really big lots. If this had a 3rd bedroom, and the pictures showed it vacant, it might sell quicker. But this is clearly an estate sale and all the problems that come with it. Too much money to fix the house up to the neighborhood standards and not at all worth it.
This is ugly middle class housing that costs a lot of money to bring it into the 21st century. I see this as a $150k house, a rehabber flip, and back on the market in less than a month for $279,000; and because it’s renovated, it might sell. No middle class family wants to buy this money pit. Don’t forget, this is a nice area, right outside the circle. This isn’t duning or portage park where smaller older homes are the norm. This is a nice block with some nicer, larger bungalows, at least one large four square, and a tudor at the end of the block. There’s a handful of those post war spec infill 50’s ranches on the block and they stick out like sore thumbs.
Fair enough. I realized after I wrote it that it was an inappropriate ad hominem attack. Sorry.
“This is what young families should be buying.”
Young families who can afford to live in norwood don’t want these – this house, along with a handful others like it, are outliers on the block. Young families in less affluent areas will want to buy homes like this for $100,000 and fix them up as they go along. $193,000 plus at least $50,000 or more to make it look like it at least entered the 21st is pretty steep for a 2 bedroom one bathhouse. Sorry guys, the house isn’t worthless, it’s just not desirable in the 21st century.
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Park-Ridge/1621-S-Clifton-Ave-60068/home/13563615
Here’s a 1953 2/1 (the 3rd bedroom and 2nd bathroom are in the basement) brick ranch at 1100 sq feet that’s been rehabbed and flipped. It went under contract in less than a week. This is pretty similar to the norwood park house, i think.
HD, that Park Ridge house is even worse than the featured property. The huge garage is all I see. What an eyesore.
“HD, that Park Ridge house is even worse than the featured property. The huge garage is all I see. What an eyesore.”
The picture shows only the garage b/c it’s a corner lot. Google streetview it and you get a different perspective. not necessarily better. but it’s not all garage.
Park ridge fing blows and that price is horrid 289k for that eyesore?
Give me this place in a neighborhood with charm any day of the week
“The picture shows only the garage b/c it’s a corner lot. Google streetview it and you get a different perspective. not necessarily better. but it’s not all garage.”
Yeah, it’s also the perfect venue for planespotting. I can hear the 3am FedEx/UPS/DHL landings now.
“somehow ending up in a *sensible* ranch in the burbs wasn’t quite on your imaginary radar while growing up, now was it. I see a perfectly nice family house that’s within your actual means, you see your tombstone.”
I can see areas like Old Norwood Park, sprawling on the fringes of the city, serving a need for middle class families who *must* live in the city. But unless there’s a job requirement, if one *must* also have a SFH, why not head to a full-blown burb? I realize that suburbs have no charms to soothe, but that’s just where most of the SFHs happen to be. Somehow lots of New Yorkers manage to raise thriving families without the benefit of the basement rumpus room and yard a SFH provides, but it seems like the majority of midwestern folks are inclined to sell their dreams for small desires.
“Somehow lots of New Yorkers manage to raise thriving families without the benefit of the basement rumpus room and yard a SFH provides”
And LOTS of NY’rs move to Brooklyn and the burbs and get the rumpus room and the yard.
How many NY’rs, of upper middle class or better means, but not (for whatver reason) going the private school route, really raise their kids in Manhattan, and without a summer/winter home of one sort or another?
There has to be a happy medium between McMansion and Sensible Ranch House that is financially appropriate and contains “3br/2.5 bath/2 car parking/AC/laundry/yard/good schools/transportation”
how about this one
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5428-N-Natoma-Ave-60656/home/13505583
Go easy on me; it was the only way I could manage to squeeze in another line.
“the only way I could manage to squeeze in another line.”
You really should save that for the weekend.
“how about this one”
You should prob answer anonny’s question (But unless there’s a job requirement, if one *must* also have a SFH, why not head to a full-blown burb?) first.
I was just going to tell you that CC *is* the place to sound it out (I’m not really sure if this is house 1 or house 2, I’d go with house 1 I guess). Also “provides an extraneous level of detail that often seems like dramatic foreshadowing but in reality is unnecessary detail”–this, is your blogging style a lot of time. Maybe you meant the comment ironically-ish. Still enjoy the blog of course.
DZ:
I’m just a lousy writer, SHB is a conversation narcessist.
“Maybe you meant the comment ironically-ish. Still enjoy the blog of course.”
“how about this one [5428 n natoma]”
I like the look of the finishes etc., but: it’s a long walk to blue line; maybe ok (per groove) but I still think not good school assuming this is garvey; and too close for my tastes to xway. And again, why here as opposed to burbs?
How’s the dining area? Redfin comments says living and dining are small. Living looks ok but dining does look small.
“How many NY’rs, of upper middle class or better means, but not (for whatver reason) going the private school route, really raise their kids in Manhattan, and without a summer/winter home of one sort or another?”
Yep, there a few times I’ve been in Manhattan, in the summer, once on Labor Day weekend, where it sends out this weird vibe that only losers are there on that weekend, and that anyone-who-is-anyone is somewhere else (e.g. “at a summer home”).
“How many NY’rs, of upper middle class or better means, but not (for whatver reason) going the private school route, really raise their kids in Manhattan, and without a summer/winter home of one sort or another?”
Where would anonny live in nyc?
where his wife tells him to….
“Where would anonny live in nyc?”
He’d obv. live in Manhattan, but I wonder what would happen if his kids didn’t get into Dalton or wherever.
Was just the other day chatting about the NYC (Manhattan) school situation with someone who lives there and has two kids, one of whom is nearly elem aged. It sounds like the public elem situation is very similar to the north side of Chicago, i.e., a handful of outstanding schools (similar to B/B/B/Lincoln) and a handful of perfectly-decent-but-not-quite-outstanding-(yet) schools (Alcott, etc.). Apparently there’s also several decent public high school options (I got the sense that it’s bad, but not quite as dire as Chicago, but who knows), but the middle school situation is mysteriously bad. Anyways, though they have friends who are “making a go of it” in the good public elementary schools, they’re doing their darndest to get into a private. And while they’re far, far better off financially than us, they’re relatively little fish in a rich pond dominated by financial industry/hedgie types. Among other reasons, the convo confirmed for me that we made a good choice as between there and here.
“He’d obv. live in Manhattan, but I wonder what would happen if his kids didn’t get into Dalton or wherever.”
Is manhattanonny going to have a bigger budget? If not, whither the unicornteria? Is he living in an efficiency a block from the nice parts of central park or does he chuck it all and go for the sfh in tenafly?
What about parking? Is he going to have parking? Or does he forgo said luxury bc that’s what lots of new yorkers manage to do? If new yorkers (manhattanites) can go without, so should we all.
“Where would anonny live in nyc?”
I lived right on Tompkins Park and enjoyed that very much, but I’d be disinclined to raise kids there. I could learn to live right on Gramercy Park (with a key), but that’s a tough spot to score a big 3+ bed. I suppose it would be the UWS.
My mothers maiden name was Tompkins which is where I get some of my WASP blood albeit it’s been 350 years since any Tompkins in my family lived in England.
“Somehow lots of New Yorkers manage to raise thriving families without the benefit of the basement rumpus room and yard a SFH provides, but it seems like the majority of midwestern folks are inclined to sell their dreams for small desires.”
If this was actually true of New Yorkers there would be no such place called Long Island. New Yorkers wanted a basement and a yard like everyone else in America (and they wanted to escape the crime of New York City which, until the last 20 years or so, was pretty bad.)
“Are the $860 taxes a mistake, or due to it being vacant?”
I’m assuming it’s a senior exemption of some kind.
“it seems like the majority of midwestern folks are inclined to sell their dreams for small desires.”
Obviously you “big city dreams” as it pertains to Big Apple failed you as well and you substitute by living in your tiny version of what you think is the UES of Chicago.
But most Americans “dreams” of moving to a big city and making it big, they outgrow with time as reality seeps in. I used to want to live in Manhattan and work on Wall Street too in my 20s. I realized that’s a rat race that’s hard to win, and what is winning and at what price?
It’s called growing up, anonny. Kind of like how you used to be a pothead snowboarder and have traded that for your urban existence here (which, BTW I will say kudos you’ve likely made it further than 99% of full-time snowboarders ever will).
I could see working my tail off earning coin for a few years but not in a place with the taxes & cost of living of NYC. Then if you’re an alpha rat well you’re just keeping pace. But what if you’re an alpha-rat in Raleigh or Houston? Then at least you’re actually getting ahead for your labor.
The whole goal of eventually living off the money you’ve earned, or at least having it be a strong lifestyle supplement, contains four parts, category 1 is the easiest one, it’s savings which comes from income – expenses. Category 2 is much harder and is from yield on that savings (and risk).
I think the BosWash corridor is a definite losing proposition for anyone looking to advance their social status in America today. The cost of living cancels most advancement in income one gets from becoming educated and getting a highly compensated job.
It’s too bad our government doesn’t want to allow RE prices to adjust to the new environment and won’t cut off funding to subsidize financing to expensive colleges so those prices cannot adjust downward. Don’t look for any consumer driven US recovery.
“I think the BosWash corridor is a definite losing proposition for anyone looking to advance their social status in America today”
*forgot the exception: government jobs. If you get a decent 75k+ govt job, the pension, benefits, job security and hours likely still make it worthwhile to plop down that 300+k for that townhouse in the DC area.
I guess my attempt to run with helm’s Rush mention really fell flat.
Yes, Sabrina, but those suburbanites are increasingly disenchanted as they face long commutes, cultural no-mans-lands, and falling home prices from their basement rumpus room. To my mind, annony’s urbanism (yes, for families) is the wave of the future. Not everyone wants that big house and yard and long commute. Look at Dearborn Park I and II in the city: LOTS of families (especially those with working moms) are choosing less space for the privledge of raising kids in the city.
Bob, you really need to chill out. Go take some lady friend on a date and have some fun.
HD if you could read the yield curve you’d be freaking out a bit, too. I’ve always suspected we could wind up like Japan from this mess and become inccreasingly clear we will.
Long commutes endora? Yes but not in the sense you suggested. This isn’t 1975 where 90% of all office jobs are downtown. Most of my peers who commute do a reverse commute. Now get back to watching that episode of Mary Tyler Moore.
“Most of my peers who commute do a reverse commute.”
And most of my peers commute downtown. So we have two anecdotes, and no data. Hurrah!!
“I guess my attempt to run with helm’s Rush mention really fell flat.”
That’s gotten two thumbs down already? Man oh man; be cool or be cast out.
“That’s gotten two thumbs down already?”
You admitted to reading The Hof’s posts.
Bob: who really works ‘office jobs’ anymore? Nobody I know. So 1990’s.
“But most Americans “dreams” of moving to a big city and making it big, they outgrow with time as reality seeps in. I used to want to live in Manhattan and work on Wall Street too in my 20s. I realized that’s a rat race that’s hard to win, and what is winning and at what price?”
Bob, I have complete confidence in you and your financial prowess that if you had decided to live and work in NY you would have come out on top.
To give you a couple of anecdotes:
Our cleaning lady at the office obviously does not make a lot of money. English is not her first language. She emigrated to the US as an adult. Yet she has still managed to buy a 2-Family house in Jersey and mostly pay it off, buy and sell multiple properties in her home country and raise 2 children. She has an attorney who advises her on property and financial matters and she insisted on a pre-nup when she married for the second time.
Contrast that with my friend who is in her late 20s. She lives in Manhattan in the middle of it all in a luxury rental at 34th and Broadway in the same building which houses The Gap and Forever 21. She is a book-smart girl who lives with 2 other girls in a 1-BR which they converted to a 3-BR. She lives in the closet. Yes. She got the windowless room. For this privilege she pays $1,300/mo. She refuses to live somewhere where she has to take the subway to work. She “has” to live in Midtown. She does not recognize this as a discretionary expense or a luxury. She makes a huge income compared to most Americans, yet she also spends most of it on entertainment.
Which woman is ahead? It’s all about choices.
I think its the 2 Bed that is killing this place.
If it was a 3/2 (1 full bath in the basement) it would have already sold.
Just like to chime in here. I moved to this area and rent, a home. I love it, my home is small, and old and no where near what 99 percent of these other homes are in the area. I live in the circle and I love what I have. If I didnt have a family emergency that put me in financial troubles years ago, I would be fine, but life happens and we have to get up on our feet. We have a child and insisted to get a good school district for her even if we had to sacrifice everything else. Its possible, and if that house is an eyesore, oh well, it wouldnt be for us and if we had the 10grand to put down, we d buy it and fix it up, put an addition on it and make it our own as our life allows over time. I am not Mexican either as one of the posts previously stated, I am a new resident looking for whats going on in the area. I am glad I found this site, but its sad to see some of the opinions expressed on here. I work hard just like everyone else in the area, just had a bad hand dealt to me and am working my way up, I deserve to have nice things for my family, even if it cant be all at once. I pray to God you people calling a home an eyesore dont ever loose your job, your spouse, your money, or a child and be left with nothing. Oh you have insurance and policies and that could never happen, but most families in their late 20s starting off middle class after just paying college loans and everything off do not have those things yet, so worry about your homes and be happy for what you have. Whatever happens to this house, its up to those owners to take care of it, not yours. If this house is available a year from now, Id buy it, because there is nothing we love more than the neighbors in this area, who have come to my home to greet me, and a drink on my front porch and welcome me into this community. I did not recieve that the last town I lived in and I hope instead of criticizing someone that would buy it because its in their means, we would just hope that it would be someone that would take care of the property that is close to yours.
This house is under contract.
New Norwoodparkian (July 19, 2012, 11:11 pm)
Just like to chime in here. I moved to this area and rent, a home. I love it, my home is small, and old and no where near what 99 percent of these other homes are in the area. I live in the circle and I love what I have. If I didnt have a family emergency that put me in financial troubles years ago, I would be fine, but life happens and we have to get up on our feet. We have a child and insisted to get a good school district for her even if we had to sacrifice everything else. Its possible, and if that house is an eyesore, oh well, it wouldnt be for us and if we had the 10grand to put down, we d buy it and fix it up, put an addition on it and make it our own as our life allows over time. I am not Mexican either as one of the posts previously stated, I am a new resident looking for whats going on in the area. I am glad I found this site, but its sad to see some of the opinions expressed on here. I work hard just like everyone else in the area, just had a bad hand dealt to me and am working my way up, I deserve to have nice things for my family, even if it cant be all at once. I pray to God you people calling a home an eyesore dont ever loose your job, your spouse, your money, or a child and be left with nothing. Oh you have insurance and policies and that could never happen, but most families in their late 20s starting off middle class after just paying college loans and everything off do not have those things yet, so worry about your homes and be happy for what you have. Whatever happens to this house, its up to those owners to take care of it, not yours. If this house is available a year from now, Id buy it, because there is nothing we love more than the neighbors in this area, who have come to my home to greet me, and a drink on my front porch and welcome me into this community. I did not recieve that the last town I lived in and I hope instead of criticizing someone that would buy it because its in their means, we would just hope that it would be someone that would take care of the property that is close to yours.
This house is NOT on the circle just to clue you in on the area. Big Big difference.
I thought I saw a sold price of $175K the other day when I was checking sold comps in 60631
Seems appropriate.