5-Bedroom Home In The Villa On A Huge Lot Now $899,900: 3625 N. Springfield In Irving Park
We’ve chattered about this 5-bedroom single family home at 3625 N. Springfield in The Villa neighborhood of Irving Park several times before.
See our December 2011 chatter here.
Originally listed at $1.2 million, we chattered about whether a house could really sell for over a million in The Villa which is filled with smaller bungalow homes.
This house is actually on an oversized lot measuring 105×120.
Back in December, some of you thought this wouldn’t sell for much over $700,000. Homedelete thought it’d go back to the 1999 price.
If you recall, the Villa is a landmark historic district established in 1907 just north of Addison and east of Pulaski in Irving Park.
It is distinctive for its architecture, its wide lot sizes, and medians running down the middle of two of the streets- Harding and Avers.
The neighborhood has 126 homes and a very active community organization.
With this house, there is a large deck and above ground pool as well as a 2-car garage.
The eat-in kitchen has stainless steel appliances and maple cabinets.
Three of the five bedrooms are on the second floor with the fourth on the third floor and the fifth in the lower level.
There is central air and a fireplace.
Is this getting close to the correct list price now?
Read more about The Villa neighborhood here.
Kieran Conlon at Conlon still has the listing. See the pictures here.
- Sold in June 1999 for $535,000
- Was listed in September 2011 for $1.199 million
- Reduced
- Was listed in December 2011 for $1.050 million
- Reduced
- Currently listed at $899,900
- Taxes of $9917
- Central Air
- Above ground pool
- Bedroom #1: 17×15 (second floor)
- Bedroom #2: 12×13 (second floor)
- Bedroom #3: 14×11 (second floor)
- Bedroom #4: 42×19 (third floor)
- Bedroom #5: 13×12 (lower level)
It doesn’t look like they’ve done much of anything since 1999. The finishes are sub par and while this is a huge lot, I just can’t see this going for over $750. There’s simply too much work involved in getting the house up to date.
I think they still need to reduce the asking price a fair amount. They shouldn’t be asking over $825. I’d much rather buy the Victorian on Lundy in Old Edgebrook that has been reduced to $729k and needs work over this house that also needs work and costs $170k more.
Also, while they advertise the price includes a buildable 55×120 lot, is it likely that you could sell that parcel and a developer build a home there, or is the fact that it is a historic district and has a very active community association going to make it very difficult to build new construction?
Also, at 42×19 I would call the third floor a family room instead of a bedroom. That effectively makes this home a 3 bedroom home for $900k since the basement bedroom is likely only going to be used as a guest room rather than a family bedroom.
WOW. HIDEOUS.
“costs $170k more.
Also, while they advertise the price includes a buildable 55×120 lot”
Those two are pretty intimately connected. They’re essentially asking the same as the Lundy house, for the house, and ~$175k for the extra (big) lot. I’d happily pay $175k for 55′ adjacent to my house–even assume the obligation for removing a teardown structure.
Living on Lundy means Edgebrook public school; living on Springfield means Reilly.
http://www.cps.edu/Schools/Pages/school.aspx?id=610144
Hope you like Catholic elementary schools! St. Viators
Side lots rule!
“They’re essentially asking the same as the Lundy house, for the house, and ~$175k for the extra (big) lot. I’d happily pay $175k for 55? adjacent to my house”
But in OE the lundy house is situated where and extra lot is not needed to achieve the same results as the the Villa house.
i do agree i would gladly only pay 175 for an extra double lot next to my house and would be even more icing to have it historically unbuildable (takes away temptation to sell)
also i would take OE just for the fact that the last two times i stopped at that gas station on avondale and addison the same gangbangers were hanging out in a two month time span. one kid did have a different hat but i think it was the same white t though
This property is very attractive from the street, and the lot is beautiful. The interior is not decorated to my taste, but that would be easy to fix, it seems. I also don’t like pools, but my kids would love that feature.
I didn’t know about this neighborhood, but it looks like a winner. I wonder if there’s a lot of highway noise, though. And how are the main streets around here? I know Irving is anything but what I’d consider attractive for a walk, unless I wanted to visit an auto dealership. Not sure about Pulaski and Addison – they might be better.
Seems also like the price is still too high. I could see paying this much to live in a similar house much further east, like in Lakewood Balmoral. But 900K to live at Addison and the highway?
All this talk of paying 175k for another 55′ is making me kick myself again for missing out on the purchase of the extra 33′ or so (with a tear down or gut rehab structure on it–ultimately was rehabbed) feet next to me for 44k back in 09.
Just compare this to that equivalently-priced cookie-cutter monstrosity in Roscoe Village… I don’t even have to look at the pictures to know which one I’d want.
The interior streets of the neighborhood are beautiful but it’s just a small pocket of wealth among the lower middle class that is much of irving park/avondale. These neighborhoods were originally built as upper middle class suburbs off the C&NW line in the early 20th century and shortly thereafter were annexed into the city. The highway cut the neighborhood in half in the 1950’s and that sped up the flight of many residents to the suburbs, primarily the NW suburbs. Those that remained were the mainly working class households to kept up their properties but didn’t really have the wealth to sustain a vibrant neighborhood like lakeview/LP. These are the people that covered the wood siding on their victorians with asphalt roll and installed drop ceilings in their living rooms, for goodness sakes. There was a home in the villa, an old craftman bungalow, where the family dormered the attic and made 6 small bedrooms and put vinyl siding on it. It looks complete awful, just awful, that’s what these residents did during this time period when everyone else moved to new homes in teh ‘burbs.
Fast forward to the 1990’s when interest in the city among young people was rekindled, and they discovered that grandma’s old house in OIP/West Walker/The Villa/(and to some extent, Mayfair) was large, on a huge lot, and not that far from downtown. It became easy for developers to build large homes relatively inexpensively, and owners to rehab large old homes on large lots. Mayfair, IMHO still retains a good chunk of the middle working class gruff that OIP/The Villa had between 1950-1990.
“like lakeview/LP”
like they are today, I mean, not like they were during the 50’s.
This is a half block north of Addison, lots of trees, the highway isn’t that noticeable unless you are at the end of the block.
“I didn’t know about this neighborhood, but it looks like a winner. I wonder if there’s a lot of highway noise, though. And how are the main streets around here? I know Irving is anything but what I’d consider attractive for a walk, unless I wanted to visit an auto dealership. Not sure about Pulaski and Addison – they might be better.”
“Just compare this to that equivalently-priced cookie-cutter monstrosity in Roscoe Village… I don’t even have to look at the pictures to know which one I’d want.”
yep me too, i would definitely pick the roscoe village one over this.
BTW its not a sarcastic joke i truly would choose the roscoe village one.
At least in Roscoe Village there’s a better chance of a greater fool to come along to whom you can unload your overpriced cramped monstrosity with no yard.
“33? or so…for 44k back in 09”
Sounds like a deal, depending on location obviously. I didn’t see anything below maybe $100 around us. (Kinda speaking of which, OT to Icarus, wherever he might be today, if you really care about the logan property, I wouldn’t assume they can’t go lower. I don’t have any non-public info, but based on what you said and what’s searchable, I would make that assumption. Maybe they can’t, but if I wanted the place I’d try a bid at what felt comfortable. Ending up at something like $410-420 would seem like a good price to me.)
“I would make that assumption”
Meant to say: would NOT make that assumption.
@DZ, you’re always welcomed to make these comments on my blog too. 😉
yeah if we really wanted the place enough to make an offer, we would. In fact, I think if the house were actually on the BLVD or had a wider lot, we would have put in an offer. of course the asking price would be higher in the first place.
“Those two are pretty intimately connected. They’re essentially asking the same as the Lundy house, for the house, and ~$175k for the extra (big) lot.”
The Lundy house is on a huge lot too. It is over a 1/4 acre and redfin has the lot dimensions as 111x164x65x158. I’d think that is fairly comparable to 105×120 if not bigger. So essentially they are still asking $170k more.
“DZ, you’re always welcomed to make these comments on my blog too”
i cant post anymore have to do some crazy sign in thing or link an account from another sign in thing. its more work to post on your blog than to create a CC wiki.
“its more work to post on your blog than to create a CC wiki.”
Or write a sentence that doesn’t assault the principles of decent grammar.
if i leave annonymous posting on, i get hit with spambots. How much solicitation for viagra and refi at 2% ads does a guy need?
“DZ, you’re always welcomed to make these comments on my blog too”
Was trying to drive traffic for you. Think it’s just me and drdrea on there.
“How much solicitation for viagra and refi at 2% ads does a guy need?”
is this a set up?
Cool place. Love the yard
I’d take this over the OE property
RE: Avondale, definitely NOT upper middle class, it was where many people who couldn’t afford to build in brick after the Fire went.
http://nwchicagohistory.org/nwch_avondale.html