The Large Vintage Pre-War North Side Apartment: 3144 N. Sheridan in Lakeview
Recently, we chattered about a 4/2 1920s vintage apartment completely redone in Hyde Park at 5658 S. Blackstone listed for $469,000.
In the comments, Sonies said: “… the place is beautiful, wish more large condos like this existed on the north side with this sort of pricing.”
See our chatter on the Hyde Park unit here.
Nearly the mirror unit is currently on the market at 3144 N. Sheridan in Lakeview only it’s a 3-bedroom and has a private rooftop deck. (I’m not sure on the square footage on the Hyde Park unit because the older listing said it was 2000 square feet, the current one says 2600 square feet.)
The Lakeview building was built in 1914.
The living/dining/sunroom layout is nearly identical to that in Hyde Park, complete with several sets of French doors, a wood burning fireplace and crown molding.
Like the Hyde Park unit, it too has its own laundry room, measuring 5×7.
It has a new marble master bathroom.
The third bedroom is currently being used as a den and has a wet bar.
The kitchen has a combo of black and stainless steel appliances.
It has central air, but no parking. That is available for rent next door.
You can’t miss the spiral staircase in the vintage dining room, however. It leads to a 27×33 private rooftop deck with, the listing says, “lake & harbor” views.
It is listed about $90,000 more than the Hyde Park property (but does have that rooftop deck).
Unit #2A, in the same building, was recently on the market in March 2012.
That unit is also a 3/2 with the same layout (just no rooftop deck). Also 1850 square feet.
Before the unit was withdrawn, it was listed at $429,900. See that listing here.
Are large vintage apartments with attractive pricing really that rare on the North Side?
Robin Miner at @Properties has the listing. See the pictures here.
Unit #3A: 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1850 square feet
- Sold in October 1992 for $320,750
- Sold in August 1996 for $229,000
- Originally listed in September 2009 for $598,000
- Withdrawn in 2010
- Was listed in September 2011 for $574,900
- Reduced
- Was listed in April 2012 for $559,000
- Currently still listed for $559,000
- Assessments of $559 a month (includes cable)
- Taxes of $6846
- Central Air
- In-unit washer/dryer
- No parking- available for rent next door for $200 to $260 a month
- Bedroom #1: 21×16
- Bedroom #2: 13×13
- Bedroom #3: 14×9
The lack of parking would be a killer for me. Otherwise a great place.
That deck is really nice, but few would consider it to be worth $130K.
“That deck is really nice, but few would consider it to be worth $130K.”
At least $30k of that has to be for being top floor instead of middle, no?
The constant noise of buses going by on Sheridan (and starting and stopping right in front of your door) would detract this place for me. Convenient, sure, but too noisy.
Great-looking unit, though. The parking next door (I assume at 3150 Sheridan) wouldn’t bother me much. It’s typical to have parking off site for these old Lakeview condo low-rises. I wonder if your guests would be allowed to park there as well. There’s another garage across the street at 3150 LSD.
I still wouldn’t buy in this market, but even if the price were reduced I would say the rooftop deck and – YES – the third floor are worth the extra $$. No doubt.
We just had this discussion the other day. My former co-worker and her husband are the very passive, typical happy-go-lucky liberal types of this same neighborhood in a first floor condo. Nothing seems to bother them. However, I couldn’t help but notice her constant complaining and new hatred of her upstairs neighbors since Johnny Jr. learned to walk and her having to listen to him running and clomping up and down the hallway above her (as well as the treadmill they have in their spare bedroom above). My response? Hardwood floors are great but I am quite sure back in the day, the people that lived in these grand apartments had beautiful wool rugs and runners that probably ran almost wall to wall.
I just moved to a considerably smaller top floor apartment from a middle floor and even though my couch wouldn’t fit through the doorway, I’m in heaven. No more listening to that woman above that wore her CFM pumps 24/7 still trying to bag a man in basically a gay neighborhood. I’m still trying to figure out what she did in that bedroom above me everynight too. One time she blamed it on trying to kill a spider but it seemed to be a nightly ritual.
Love it. My only quibble is with the location and layout of the kitchen. I’m curious – any theories on why the big price drop between the 1992 and 1996 sales?
Why in the world is this place being compared to a place in Hyde Park? It’s not just a matter of it (i) being top floor and (ii) having a private roof deck (both of which are indeed great attributes) that makes it “worth 130k more.”
Anyways, it’s a really nice, big *two* bed. But, as with many of the huge, stately vintage units in this immediate hood, the no parking situation is a real bummer (there are many such places, and we were tempted by a few). And, as the good Dan rightly notes, the bus noise is a killer (I lived on Surf, about 50 feet west of Sheridan, with a fairly direct view of Sheridan…the “Route 151, Sheridan to Union Station” robo-announcement was perfectly audible with the windows open; engine noise was hardly reduced by closing the windows).
“The constant noise of buses going by on Sheridan and starting and stopping right in front of your door)”
it’s really amazing that Citizens of Chicago put up with the shenanigans of the CTA. The bus announcements made over the intercom are nice, but we don’t need to be able to hear them 50′ away, let alone a block that I sometimes hear that annoying announcement from. Would love to know why the CTA is exempt from quality of life ordinances and if Joe Citizen did this, his car would be confiscated? Is it just that Chicagoans are complacent and lack in their ability to complain and suggest improvements to the city?
agree, what on earth does this location have to do with Hyde Park? nothing at all… If it’s alerting to an agent that there can be a 130k price difference on the same neighborhood but in two neighborhoods, time for a new career. it’s irrelevant.
The layout of this place is kind of funky — it’s a long way from the kitchen to the dining room.
“Why in the world is this place being compared to a place in Hyde Park? … makes it “worth 130k more.” ”
Reading comp: The $130k more is compared to teh #2 unit beneath it. It’s listed for only $90k more than the HP unit.
Ah ha. Well, I’d still say it’s worth 90k more than the unit beneath. And I’d still say that the Hyde Park here has about as much bearing on this unit as the Hyde Park in London. For purposes of comparing nice, big vintage walk ups near the lake in a (relatively) racially diverse commnunity, I’d look to Evanston.
While I like this unit, it isn’t exactly the same as the Hyde Park one, first off it seems much narrower and smaller (perhaps the staging and photography is the cause, not certain as I haven’t checked all the measurements)
Top floor to me certainly is a bonus, although if no elevator or onsite parking that actually kind of stinks and I don’t know if I could deal with that with a child. I grocery shop a lot and that would be a hassle!
The 3rd bedroom is also much smaller but obviously the location and rooftop deck add a significant premium to the hyde park place. I’d say the HP place is probably 50-70k overpriced and this… I am not sure but it doesn’t seem too crazy, maybe will sell for 525k
“Why in the world is this place being compared to a place in Hyde Park?’
1) they are both Pre-War units and
2) Sonies stated something about finding one like the HP on the North side.
“At least $30k of that has to be for being top floor instead of middle, no?”
Good point. So the deck premium is perhaps $80K- $100K. Which might be worth paying IF the place had parking, but I suspect most buyers at this pricepoint will prioritize onsite garage parking over a deck.
And I just got a $100 ticket in the mail from the Belmont/LSD red light camera… the placement of that thing is nearly criminal… no turn on red.. what a load of shit!
LSD/Belmont is a prime example of where right-on-red should never even be considered. I’ve seen various types of weapons produced by pedestrians at the corner. Even if you’re a good driver and think you can handle it, you can’t. No personal attack and I’ll assume you’re a good driver, but I’ve witnessed your type at that intersection……many times.
Sonies,
You have my sympathy. I got one recently for a light at Irving just west of the Kennedy. While it’s true I was in the wrong this time, I still think it’s a diabolical system.
This is a wonderful place for the price, and there’s no comparison between it and the Hyde Park unit. This place is somewhat smaller, but the neighborhood is absolutely prime. Given the price for this place, the unit in HP ought to be discounted another $100K.
The only negative is the spiral stair in the dining room, which mars it. If I wanted roof access from the unit, I’d have placed it in the kitchen, or had an attractive, comfortable wood staircase built.
In a unit this size a buyer will most likely have kid(s) and walking up 3 flights is do-able, as is off-site parking. We do it with 2 small kids not for from here. The difference is the busy street… I can pull up in front, put my flashers on for a minute and unload my groceries into the lobby, then go park and come up the back with my kids, then run down to the lobby and get the groceries. You can’t do that with this place because your right on Sheridan. (Not that this is a great way to do it, but you do what you have to do to live in the city I guess)
TS:
I recommend PeaPod.
NoDifferent – it was at like 10pm and there was nobody around, no cars no people, it was actually just some jerk in the middle lane running the red light, so i actually got photo’d sitting in the right lane, load of bunk…. we’ll see if I get appealed or not