Rare Top Floor 3/3 Returns To Try Again (With a $20K Price Reduction): 814 W. Roscoe in Lakeview
We last chattered about this top floor 3-bedroom at 814 W. Roscoe in Lakeview in December 2010.
See our prior chatter here.
Many of you liked this unit which was renovated/remodeled in 2006. Sonies thought it was very “New York-ish”.
It didn’t sell and was withdrawn from the market in 2011. But it has now come back on the market $20,000 cheaper.
Converted into condos in 2006, the living/dining and kitchen area now sports the popular open layout with what the listing calls a “chef’s kitchen” with stainless steel appliances and granite counter tops.
It has 14 foot high ceilings, crown molding and a fireplace.
The 3 bedrooms are also larger than what you might normally find in a vintage unit. It’s also unusual to find a vintage unit with 3 bathrooms.
The master bathroom is marble with a double vanity.
The property has the amenities buyers are looking for including central air, washer-dryer in the unit and 1-car parking.
Now reduced under the 2006 price and with the market hotter than in 2010/2011, is this unit priced to sell?
Brad Lippitz at Prudential Rubloff still has the listing. See the pictures here.
Unit #3W: 3 bedrooms, 3 baths, no square footage listed
- Sold in August 2006 for $587,500
- Originally listed in August 2010 for $589,000
- Withdrawn in July 2011
- Currently listed for $569,000
- Assessments still $251 a month
- Taxes now $8559 (they were $8044 in August 2010)
- Central Air
- Washer/Dryer in the unit
- Parking included
- Bedroom #1: 16×14
- Bedroom #2: 11×14
- Bedroom #3: 15×12
Just lovely! And in Nettlehorst, to boot. That is, however, a lot of lugging of things/kids up the stairs.
The “luxe” bathroom is terrifyingly ugly, despite being very, very expensive.
Open layouts are nice in many ways, but there’s no room for a play space, etc. A row home or something with a basement might work better for many families. Honestly, you’re almost at SFH price levels, at least in nearby North Center, at this point already.
14 foot ceilings, yeah right. Maybe 12 feet.
“Honestly, you’re almost at SFH price levels, at least in nearby North Center, at this point already.”
umm the only one at that price in NC sold recently and it was next to the BBQ beer garden
I wouldn’t say the master bathroom is “very, very” expensive. It’s nice (esp. the steam shower==2.5-3k upgrade), but the finishes aren’t any more expensive than if they would’ve used pretty much any other stone available at Tile Outlet
I’d much rather be on the top floor of this building than anywhere else. It’s a great location.
I used to live on this block, it’s a pretty great location, and I prefer that it’s closer to Halsted and farther away from Clark.
(No roof rights? :/)
“if they would’ve used pretty much any other stone available at Tile Outlet”
actually if you use HOBO its about 50%-70% cheaper, but just a pain in the arse to find enough bullnose.
Hmm. Based on the exterior picture and the description, I thought it would be more impressive. Some nicer details and finishes, but that open living/dining/kitchen just looks too much like the 1,000’s of generic condos out there. Some molding and an expensive fridge can’t fix that.
As for it being a walk up, that shouldn’t be a deal killer, even for potential or current young families. Obviously, an elevator would be better, but it’s not as if most SFHs – the holy grail in the midwest, especially for those who reproduce – won’t involve *some* stairs.
“Honestly, you’re almost at SFH price levels, at least in nearby North Center”
Like Groove said.
All such allegations turn me into a Miz’urn.
“SFHs – the holy grail in the midwest, especially for those who reproduce”
As tedious as any meme on here, ever.
Are you saying that a Manhattan townhouse is *not* on the holy grail list in NYC? Or a (pick your hood) Victorian in EsEff? Or the Malibu/Manhattan Beach beachfront house? Etc. etc, etc. With the cavaet of different strokes, natch, but acting like SFHs are only appealing to the rubes you’ve lowered yourself to living amonst is just f’ing ridiculous (and tiresome).
“That is, however, a lot of lugging of things/kids up the stairs.”
Actually, I find that one to be more tiresome.
This place is nice!! Now I just wish I could get something even near this price for my 3/3 vintage top floor with a more formal layout (which I prefer) in Bronzeville. I can keep dreaming, right?
““That is, however, a lot of lugging of things/kids up the stairs.”
Actually, I find that one to be more tiresome.”
That’s just tiring. And a mockery softball, notwithstanding the defenses regarding the difficulty (“how do *you* haul 2.3 kids, 3 dogs, and a double-stroller, wagon, bike with burley, 55″ tv, 83.5 lbs of groceries, and a parrot up three flights of stairs with a broken foot, while wearing louboutins, in a cocktail dress all from your double-parked cooperman without getting a parking ticket”) that will ensue.
“SFHs – the holy grail in the midwest, especially for those who reproduce”
anon(ufo) responded better.
i will just add that Palitine Bi-level ranches really only have 3-4 stairs to navigate
how many stairs in hd’s place?
tfo did u see that converted 2flat with new face at 3618 bell sold for 1.3+. that price is kind of amazing to me. any insight?
“sold for 1.3”
given the hysterical original list of 2.9mil
my bad. 3617 n bell
“3617 n bell”
I dunno, is it any crazier than the $1.2ish places in coonley, after accounting for differences in lot costs? Don’t like the fact that there’s no real yard. Groove, you’re thinking of the multi multi bathroom place.
nonny: do most people you know in nyc area, who have reached the kids going to kindergarten stage, and who are roughly at your income level, live in manhattan?
““sold for 1.3?
given the hysterical original list of 2.9mil”
“only” 1.4999 originally. Seems to me that 5 weeks to take 9.3% less than list is an indication of how fat the profit margin was at original ask (from a developer’s pov). Of course, I don’t think it would have gone well had they tried to hold out for a better offer.
That’s what those places (that are done well) have been selling for. That’s a nice block, tho being second from the alley (and 3d from Addison) isn’t ideal. Dig the brick garage, notsomuch the tiny backyard, and the gatordeck is a gatordeck, but am troubled that they decided to screen teh north side, but not the south–you been up on one of those when the sun is out on an even moderately hot day? dying for protection from the sun.
“who are roughly at your income level”
on a percentage basis compared to peer group in relevant city, or on a nominal basis?
“Groove, you’re thinking of the multi multi bathroom place.”
yep that place and IIRC it was on grace not bell so again i am way off in memory.
what about that greystone on hoyne? wasnt that list around 2.1mil? did it sell yet?
“on a percentage basis compared to peer group in relevant city, or on a nominal basis?”
Do the two measures differ, if his peer group is elite biglaw?
Hell, I would wager even money if nonny’s firm has a nyc office and directory of home addresses that more than half of *partners* live outside manhattan, for partners w kids at home (or some proxy like middle aged or something).
“yep that place and IIRC it was on grace not bell so again i am way off in memory. ”
Corner of grace & bell, so not completely gone.
“what about that greystone on hoyne? wasnt that list around 2.1mil? did it sell yet?”
This one? http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/3939-N-Hoyne-Ave-60618/home/13390080
Now at $1.45.
On another topic–I feel like I asked here before long ago–anyone know the place n of Damen and Belmont (next to the playground) that’s been FSBO since ’95 or so? Anyone know WTF is up with that?
OK, how about comparing it with the row house in Roscoe Village that just sold (1832 W. Cornelia)? Or the Alta Vista Terrace listings?
Also, those bathroom finishes are very expensive considering that they’re hideous! It’s one thing if they’re worn out and ugly, but these are supposedly classy.
“and the gatordeck is a gatordeck, but am troubled that they decided to screen teh north side, but not the south”
maybe the neighbor to the south has a hot sunbathing wife and the current owner was on family feud and won a lifetime supply of Nivea
In NYC, sure, a TH in the 60’s – 70’s within a couple blocks of CPW or 5th Ave, or in parts of the WV, perhaps a block or two of the EV (10th between 2nd and 3rd?), or on Gramercy Park. Holy grail stuff for sure. But I don’t think I’d be crazy to say that an equal number of sq ft set high above CPW or 5th Ave with views of the park would be superior. And on the west coast, indeed, a big, bright house is the grail, with a big outdoor-living-room-like area and a pool.
Believe me, if we were to move out of the Chicago area, it would not be to NYC, which means we would almost certainly be moving into a house. “Almost” certainly, because I could imagine dividing the year among a handful of Four Seasons residences (Denver/Jackson/Bora Bora? SF/Whistler/Punta Mita?).
“This one? Now at $1.45.”
yep that one! considering the lot size and awesome scale wonder why 3816 bell sold before this one.
“Do the two measures differ, if his peer group is elite biglaw?”
Not “peer group” measured that way–“peer group” measured by “where I think my kids should go to school” and/or “I’m smarter than *that* guy”. It’s the oft-documented feeling poor due to the company you keep/would like to keep. If nonny thinks Dalton or Collegiate is the place to be, then that’s the peer group measure, imo, and the ‘burbs of comparison are those that people in that income bracket choose to go off to, if their kids don’t get in to Dalton or Collegiate (or whatever). All of which are not-really-affordable on a single associate’s salary, especially in combo with a ince-enough apartment. Which is, of course, no small part of why nonny dirties himself with proximity to us rubes rather than living in Manhattan.
Interesting to see the price difference between this one and the one in Edgewater. I would personally take the Edgewater condo, but I am a vintage lover. This i nicely decorated but take everything out and it’s kind of boring. I like this area better overall (although have you tried to drive down Halsted Fri or Sat night?? it’s like Mardi Gras) but not this *exact* location.
“those bathroom finishes are very expensive considering that they’re hideous!”
Looks like they stole it from a hotel (fairmont?) someplace. Bet it looks less ridic in person.
“yep that one! considering the lot size and awesome scale wonder why 3816 bell sold before this one.”
1. 3617. If it were 38xx, I’d think the answer obvious, with lack of proximity to busy street.
2. Newnewnew. Everyone wants N.E.W.
3. 3617 house is bigger inside.
4. Extra-stale listing prob scaring some off.
“Believe me, if we were to move out of the Chicago area, it would not be to NYC, which means we would almost certainly be moving into a house.”
Proletarian midwestern rube. Your lack of taste is giving me hives through the internet.
I actually really do like this despite my “tiresome” initial complaints, but I’d really miss having a separate family/rec room/man cave (which you can often find with a duplex-down or row house).
“Newnewnew. Everyone wants N.E.W.”
I’ve looked at a number of ~10 year old renos (not quite at that price range). The cosmetic stuff even in places that seem well taken care of definitely still looks worn in places. And can be dated And there’s the loss of useful life of the non-cosmetic. There’s gotta be some non-trivial discount for that.
“Which is, of course, no small part of why nonny dirties himself with proximity to us rubes rather than living in Manhattan.”
Whaaaat??? He didn’t come here bc of his love of elp?
“1. 3617. If it were 38xx, I’d think the answer obvious, with lack of proximity to busy street.
2. Newnewnew. Everyone wants N.E.W.
3. 3617 house is bigger inside.
4. Extra-stale listing prob scaring some off.”
1. agreed
2. yes new is nice but for a price
3. but hoyne is bigger outside and IIRC has a curbcut!
4. could be the huge price cuts too.
“3617 house is bigger inside.”
“but hoyne is bigger outside and IIRC has a curbcut!”
For us, we’d take the bigger lot and more outside space, but the extra bed (and maybe extra bath) up could be a big deal for a larger family. The hoyne place is under contract and, I’m guessing, will close for a touch more than 3617 bell. I don’t like how close either of them are to a major street.
“I’ve looked at a number of ~10 year old renos (not quite at that price range). The cosmetic stuff even in places that seem well taken care of definitely still looks worn in places. And can be dated And there’s the loss of useful life of the non-cosmetic. There’s gotta be some non-trivial discount for that.”
Undoubtedly. refinish all the floors, new carpet (if any), paint all the walls and ceilings, regrout all tile, new (or, at least, overhaul service) appliances, new hvac, super-duper duct cleaning, new sump/ejector pump, new roof–how much is that for a 4500 sf house? $50k? And that just gets you close. Tho, having the break-in period (where some defects become obvious) past has some value, too.
Halsted and Roscoe huh? Right in the heart of boystown. Your buyer pool is limited and thus value reducing. just being real
“2. Newnewnew. Everyone wants N.E.W.”
how much is the discount on these leaking split face block buildings littering every block with new construction in this city?
Top floor? It’s clearly a PENTHOUSE! #snark
Nice property, though.
Very nice, large place in prime neighborhood, but there were things that really struck me as wrong when I viewed the photos.
First of all, I just hate it when a fine old vintage that was built for radiant heat is compromised by forced air furnace ducts. I’ve rejected many rehabs because of this, it bothers me so much. The ugly ducts are the first thing I notice, and that they ruin the proportions of the room.
Then, the ceiling covings are not correct, too narrow, which is why there’s too much space between the tops of the windows and the ceilings. And the kitchen should be closed.
But it’s still a commodious, comfortable 3-3 in a great neighborhood, in very good condition, in a gorgeous vintage building, so I believe it ought to get close to the ask price.
“And on the west coast, indeed, a big, bright house is the grail, with a big outdoor-living-room-like area and a pool.”
Just have to mention that this would NOT be the holy grail in the Bay Area. A house: yes. But no pool and no big outdoor living space unless it’s in wine country as it just doesn’t get warm enough.
“Are you saying that a Manhattan townhouse is *not* on the holy grail list in NYC?”
I don’t know about the townhouse but NY real estate agents have told me that walk-ups sell for less because people don’t want to walk up the stairs. These would be buildings like the one Carrie Bradshaw lived in on Sex and the City. Buyers prefer full amenity buildings with elevators in Manhattan.
“As for it being a walk up, that shouldn’t be a deal killer, even for potential or current young families. Obviously, an elevator would be better, but it’s not as if most SFHs – the holy grail in the midwest, especially for those who reproduce – won’t involve *some* stairs.”
Isn’t the real problem all the stuff that comes with having a kid? Who wants to carry their 2 year old up and down 3 flights of stairs every day? Who wants to take their stroller up and down the stairs? (and, actually, most don’t as I can’t tell you the amount of times I’ve seen $500 strollers parked in entryways and even outside buildings- which is amazing to me that it’s not stolen- because there is no way they are going to lug that huge thing up and down the stairs.)
Most single family homes in the burbs have garages so you can just put the huge stroller in there.
And then it gets even more tricky if you have 2 kids in a walk-up and the husband is away at work all day. So you take your 2 year old down three flights of stairs and strap him into the car seat with your car in the back parking space. You lock the doors but have to leave him there. You go back up 3 flights of stairs to get the 10 month old. You bring her down three flights of stairs, unlock the doors to the car (this could be winter, mind you) and THEN put the second kid in.
Who wants to do that for five years? Yuck.
And then it gets even more tricky if you have 2 kids in a walk-up and the husband is away at work all day. So you take your 2 year old down three flights of stairs and strap him into the car seat with your car in the back parking space. You lock the doors but have to leave him there. You go back up 3 flights of stairs to get the 10 month old. You bring her down three flights of stairs, unlock the doors to the car (this could be winter, mind you) and THEN put the second kid in.
Who wants to do that for five years?”
More like who wants TO DO 5 YEARS? Do people really do this? If I came down to our garage and saw a 2 year old strapped in a locked car alone in winter (or whenever), I don’t think that the event would end with the 10 month old getting strapped in and mom headed off to Marianos…
(And despite my comment, I am not supporting Cribchatter becoming Kidchatter).
My house has at least 1 stair at the front stoop but that’s all I can say at this time.
I lived in a 3rd floor walk-up and I don’t miss lugging all that crap up and down 3 flights of stairs. That was annoying.
Btw a sfh in the burbs doesn’t need to be 3000+ sq ft on a 12,000 sq ft lot in an area with no sidewalks and its a 15 minute drive to the Walmart. My suburb is medium density with scattered multifamily housing. I may have to drive places, but I have every grocery store imaginable within a 5 minute drive. The options are so black and white as Lincoln park or long grove, even though I chose long grove and the 1 acre lots with no sidewalks.
“this would NOT be the holy grail in the Bay Area. A house: yes. But no pool and no big outdoor living space unless it’s in wine country as it just doesn’t get warm enough”
Gets plenty warm enough in San Jose. Which is the biggest city in the Bay Area.
Not that I’d choose to live there either, but Bay Area =/= EsEff (bayside Marin, HMB, etc) only.
“I have every grocery store imaginable within a 5 minute drive”
That’s a bold statement, as people here can imagine a lot of (ethnic) grocery stores.
“but I have every grocery store imaginable within a 5 minute drive.”
in long grove, no you dont
in mt prospect (or morton grove) where you really are, yes you do
also from your metra description you provided many times since you moved, you DONT LIVE IN LONG GROVE
FIGHT CHILDHOOD OBESITY! Move into a top-floor walkup unit with your grade/high schoolers!
And make them walk to school and Wrigley Field (or at least to the bus stop)!
“I have every grocery store imaginable within a 5 minute drive”
What about marianos? Which seems to be the grocery store of the moment. Prob out of your driving range.
“Gets plenty warm enough in San Jose. Which is the biggest city in the Bay Area.”
Maybe the south suburbs of San Jose like Gilroy. But when people think of the Bay Area they don’t think of living in San Jose.
I didn’t know a single person with a swimming pool on the peninsula (or anywhere else in the bay area for that matter- east bay or north bay.) Neither did I know anyone with a big outdoor living room like they have in LA. They had “normal” backyards like you’d find in the Midwest.
It just doesn’t get warm enough there- for the most part.
“More like who wants TO DO 5 YEARS? Do people really do this? If I came down to our garage and saw a 2 year old strapped in a locked car alone in winter (or whenever), I don’t think that the event would end with the 10 month old getting strapped in and mom headed off to Marianos…”
What are you talking about? This happens every single day all over the city. I know people who had to put the one kid in the car when it was parked on the street (they had NO parking space) and THEN had to go and get the other kid. How do you think one adult gets two small kids into a car from a 3rd floor walk-up? Takes them both down at the same time???
The people I know who had to deal with this moved to the suburbs! It just wasn’t practical- obviously.
“Who wants to do that for five years?””
Five years? Kid should not need to be held by 2.5 y.o., maybe 2.
Grocery stores suck, I buy a majority of my stuff from the local meat, fish, and farmer’s markets, so much better than that overpriced shit from Jewel, Whole paycheck, Trader Joes et al
time to bust out
http://www.toobigforstroller.com
and come on, they don’t have to move to the crappy burbs, they can move to an elevator building in the city…
If you have to leave a child in a parked car on Chicago alone while you retrieve the second one, you probably should have stopped at 1. If this is really happening, as you say, well then it’s news to me. Amber. Alert.
I would never live in a walkup with children but Chicago is one of the few cities where there are plenty of relatively affordable SFHs / Townhouses in the city proper. The choice for many is driven not by condo in the city vs. SFH in the burbs but smaller SFH / Townhouse in the city vs. larger SFH with big yard in the burbs. And of course there is the school question. People who would purchase a top floor walkup with children are those who desperately want to stay in the city and don’t have the budget for a SFH / TH. That is a very small subset of people as most would just move to the burbs instead. And NYC has a much bigger SFH / TH market than most think – check out brownstoner.com. NYC includes BK and Queens and one can get a legitimate city experience living in Park Slope or BKln Heights where SFH / TH pricing is in line with ELP / Gold Coast.
“If you have to leave a child in a parked car on Chicago alone while you retrieve the second one, you probably should have stopped at 1. If this is really happening, as you say, well then it’s news to me. Amber. Alert.”
You have an awful lot of opinions about childrearing for *specifically* not wanting to talk about kids here.
That said, NO WAY it’s “5 years”. Absent Irish twins, it should be maybe 18 months. Unless you have awful, uncontrollable kids like HD’s sister.
Mariano’s is a little farther drive. But that place should be called Mariano’s madhouse mayhem because its way to crowded everytime I shop there. I like it but its too much for me, reminds me of the north center trader joes crowded.
Long grove has that wal-mart sans club in nearby wheeling. I buy everything I need there
Ethic grocery stores, even the eastern euro ethnic stores, are over rated. The meat is never as good, the Vegas are hit or miss on quality. The packages goods are rarely competitively priced. Other than being close to a lot of them in long grove (drive to wheeling) Id rather just go to jewel.
“What about marianos? Which seems to be the grocery store of the moment. Prob out of your driving range.”
1. If he lives in Mt Prospect, near the Metra stop, it’s “5 minutes” (more like 10, but only ~3 miles) to the one in Arlington Heights.
2. Could be Arlington Heights, instead.
3. There is one in Palatine, too. And we know HD would never admit to living in Palatine, even if he no longer cared about the misidrection.
“Ethic grocery stores, even the eastern euro ethnic stores, are over rated. The meat is never as good, the Vegas are hit or miss on quality.”
What about hmart or mitsuwa? Prob out of your driving range.
“Maybe the south suburbs of San Jose like Gilroy. But when people think of the Bay Area they don’t think of living in San Jose.”
Just like when people think of living in NYC, they don’t think about living in Queens. Doesn’t make ’em right.
“I didn’t know a single person with a swimming pool on the peninsula (or anywhere else in the bay area for that matter- east bay or north bay.) Neither did I know anyone with a big outdoor living room like they have in LA. They had “normal” backyards like you’d find in the Midwest.”
Doesn’t HD’s uncle in Sunnyvale have a pool? Zoom in on an aerial of any part of Sunnyvale or Cupertino you like; lots of pools, mostly taking up ~75% of the backyard. And don’t tell me that Sunnyvale/Cupertino is not in the Bay Area–Apple sure as shi…stuff is and has always been HQ’d in the “Bay Area”.
Sunnyvale is the land of small lots. His 800k house is nice but it has almost no yard. It’s just a small ranch with a 2nd floor addition but its a 10 min drive to a handful of very high tech Companies so it’s really expensive. No pool, too small of a lot. No ad or heat in the house either. Wasn’t built with it and doesn’t need it except for maybe a week all year, so he says. Overall it’s a boring area.
Long grove is amazing though. It’s like living in the country just outside of cook county. The police keep out the Riff raff and other than teenagers speeding on Cuba rd, there’s not much crime at all. Lots of stuff up 83 and in BG wheeling lake Zurich, metra nearby. Great place to raise a family.
My yard in Lon. Grove is so big and pristine that on holidays my family has Kennedy compound style family football games. Ralph Lauren gear is everywhere. I imagine I’ll be the only guy with a mitt sign on the lawn and the only family in the neighborhood with Christmas lights on the house but those are just minor issues that don’t distract from the amazing nature of where I live. I love it.
“Long grove is amazing though.”
What’s the most interesting place to eat in long groove and what do you get? Somehow, I found myself out there twice in hte last year. The ice cream stores close awfully early on a sunday afternoon.
I eat chocolate covered strawberries from the confectionary. DUH.
” on holidays my family has Kennedy compound style family football games”
Who brings the fresh meat for Uncle Teddy?
“Kennedy compound style family football games”
You have ski slopes in your yard? dude now that is pretty sweet
“My yard in Lon. Grove is so big and pristine that on holidays my family has Kennedy compound style family football games. Ralph Lauren gear is everywhere. I imagine I’ll be the only guy with a mitt sign on the lawn and the only family in the neighborhood with Christmas lights on the house but those are just minor issues that don’t distract from the amazing nature of where I live. I love it.”
Awesome – you hit the Republican stereotype trifecta – family / waspy wealth references / religion – all in one comment.
“Awesome – you hit the Republican stereotype trifecta – family / waspy wealth references / religion – all in one comment.”
Go there once and you’ll fall in love with it too.
I’m not knocking Long Grove – I’m just really impressed with how much you packed into that one comment. Ralph Lauren gear and Christmas lights – genius.
“I’m just really impressed with how much you packed into that one comment”
“Republican sterotype” of the Kennedys is a major negative (rapists, drunks, murderers, etc), so that was a serious flaw.
“You have an awful lot of opinions about childrearing for *specifically* not wanting to talk about kids here.”
Really? The only opinion I’ve given is that you don’t leave a kid that can’t walk down a flight of stairs in a car on the streets of Chicago unattended. Little did I know that this was a controversial view.
“Republican sterotype” of the Kennedys is a major negative (rapists, drunks, murderers, etc), so that was a serious flaw.
Good point. Alternate view – steal the parts of the Kennedy myth you like (family compounds, outdoor football), while subtly reminding everyone of how depraved Democrats are.
“Little did I know that this was a controversial view.”
You do know there is not much that will not get debated here. I will say I have never seen an unattended kid in a car on the street nor do I know anyone who would leave their kid there. Couple families I know who fit the profile would just deal with it. One wife we know well mostly held both kids (one in a sling and other on her hip). Other one I think just walked slowly. Would leave the baby in a crib to deal w remaining items when absolutely necessary.
That said, I have left my kid alone in the garage for a moment whne I ran back in house to get something. One time, I wanted to leave him asleep in car parked immediately outside coffee shop and sit w wife in front window less than 15 feet away but my wife would not let me. My wife doesn’t even like it when I leave him to put a shopping cart away.
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Long-Grove/2530-Shenandoah-Ln-60047/home/14161026
This is very similar to my home in the area except that my home needed a bit more work. Note the 1 acre sized lot, with lots of trees, very short commute to the barrington metra (with lots of express trains) and easy access to 53/lake cook road for the days I need to drive to various court houses in the N and NW and W suburbs. This is NOT my house but very simliar. It’s like living on an estate in the country with teh tress and the land and the quiet, and my children play safely with other rich children on the block. Note the lack of sidewalks which keep out potential riff raff. My house is a bit closer to the metra, but very similiar. I love it. Way cheaper than some tiny cramped new mccrapbox contruction in north center and far more desirable than Oak brook. I have enough room to host the first annual cribchatter summer bbq.
I can’t tell if HD is tongue in cheek when he refers to Ralph Lauren and the Romney sign.
Dude, I’ve given this site more legitimate info about me in my last 10 posts than I have in all of the posts I’ve ever made on cribchatter. 10 minutes on redfin and a little web sleuthing and I’ll be outed before sabrina can make another comment about the bay area.
“very short commute to the barrington metra ”
A commute *to* the commute?
“A commute *to* the commute?”
Isn’t that better than sitting in traffic on LSD or being stuck at a stoplight/bus stop while 50 million people cram into the 156 for your 35 minute but only 18 block commute? YEah, I thought so.
“Isn’t that better than sitting in traffic on LSD or being stuck at a stoplight/bus stop while 50 million people cram into the 156 for your 35 minute but only 18 block commute?”
No.
I beg to differ. My family has a large yard with trees and grass and we use it all the time as a family, and the wife and I watch our children play freely with other neighborhood children as they roam yard to yard. I have a cigar in one hard, and a spatula in the other as I grill food for everyone. It’s magical, I tel you. City kids have gator decks and parks with creeps and bums and they can’t roam freely wihtout being ‘in the streets’. Yeah, It’s amazing what a few months living outside the city can do for it, it can change your entire attitude towards life. Sabrina, can you feature country estates in the ‘burbs for us? These city dwellers have no idea how the other half lives.
” Vlajos (September 27, 2012, 12:10 pm)
“Isn’t that better than sitting in traffic on LSD or being stuck at a stoplight/bus stop while 50 million people cram into the 156 for your 35 minute but only 18 block commute?”
No.”
on the 156 bus its 6.5 blocks and 15 minutes so you are being generous, thats if you’re lucky enough to get a bus that isn’t packed so full you can’t even get on
walking is faster most of the time
“My house is a bit closer to the metra, but very similiar”
You have a sauna? Awesome!
Valjos: “No.”
Frottage!
“My family has a large yard with trees and grass and we use it all the time as a family, and the wife and I watch our children play freely with other neighborhood children as they roam yard to yard. I have a cigar in one hard, and a spatula in the other as I grill food for everyone.”
Sounds like my City neighborhood, yet I can walk to 3 different grocers, countless restaurants, our kids school, CTA trains and buses, countless independent boutiques, an amazing butcher, etc..
“Isn’t that better than sitting in traffic on LSD or being stuck at a stoplight/bus stop while 50 million people cram into the 156 for your 35 minute but only 18 block commute? YEah, I thought so.”
Most mornings, I walk about 1 block from my door to the 156 stop; it’s typically about a 20-25 minute ride; then a couple block stroll to work. I almost always take a cab home, and it typically takes no longer than 15 minutes (on bad weather days, when there are no cabs, I used to hop the bus, and get off in (north) River North, for a 10 min cab ride home).
And, get this…I know Groove will appreciate it…I’ve even been working the el into the mix. The other day, during one of the teacher strike protests, getting a cab was going to be impossible, and the streets in the loop were jammed anyways. So I hopped on the redline, got off at Clark and Division, and jumped right into a cab. I think the whole process took like 18 minutes total (I think this strategy will replace my bus-to-cab-when-there’s-no-cabs-in-the-loop approach).
And, might I share just one example of many mid-day trips: when we got a new water heater, I had to meet the plumber at around 1:30 pm. Cabs there and back took around 10 minutes each (it being the middle of the day). I imagine that there will be various kid-related emergencies, trouble, sports, performances, etc., over the years, which will entail similar jaunts.
“That said, I have left my kid alone in the garage for a moment whne I ran back in house to get something. One time, I wanted to leave him asleep in car parked immediately outside coffee shop and sit w wife in front window less than 15 feet away but my wife would not let me. My wife doesn’t even like it when I leave him to put a shopping cart away.”
What your wife (and Jon) do not know won’t hurt you or lil DZ.
That said: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/15/nyregion/danish-mother-is-reunited-with-her-baby.html
“And, might I share just one example of many mid-day trips: when we got a new water heater, I had to meet the plumber at around 1:30 pm. Cabs there and back took around 10 minutes each (it being the middle of the day). I imagine that there will be various kid-related emergencies, trouble, sports, performances, etc., over the years, which will entail similar jaunts.”
I think you’d be nuts to live in a place like Long Grove is you had two parents with significant commutes. My guess is that one parent is at home for most of these families, or working close by.
Typical suburban reponse to commute time ” my commute time is like 20 minutes”.
They seem to all exclude what it take to get to the train station and from the train station to work. And of they allways site the express train schedule never the milk run” .
oops cite not site…… before the spelling police are on my ass.
“So I hopped on the redline, got off at Clark and Division, and jumped right into a cab.”
Imagine if you didn’t have to get a cab and could just walk, nay stroll, 3 blocks home. Also, if you’re taking cabs all the time, why not just drive?
“And, might I share just one example of many mid-day trips: when we got a new water heater, I had to meet the plumber at around 1:30 pm. Cabs there and back took around 10 minutes each (it being the middle of the day). I imagine that there will be various kid-related emergencies, trouble, sports, performances, etc., over the years, which will entail similar jaunts.”
I both agree with and am annoyed by this paragraph.
“What your wife (and Jon) do not know won’t hurt you or lil DZ.”
Whole different world now that he can undo his car seat buckle and car door. Still, vacation in denmark sounds good.
I thought hd lives in park ridge
“I thought hd lives in park ridge”
HD just throwing out some misinformation…… I think he might be nervous the cc bloodhounds are on his trail.
“if you’re taking cabs all the time, why not just drive?”
Someday, someday. Today, with only a one-car garage, we’ve only got one car. Plus, paying for that second car, plus insurance, plus an office garage space, would cost at least double (triple?) the cost of one bus/one cab ride a day. But unless we move to the GC (thereby coming within a few block stroll of the Clark/Div el stop, as you note), I could certainly see getting a second car.
“Whole different world now that he can undo his car seat buckle and car door.”
There is that.
“I thought hd lives in park ridge”
He does. There’s a field trip this weekend.
“Today, with only a one-car garage, we’ve only got one car.”
You know what comes w a two car garage (typically in chicago)? Your wife drives somewhere not loop convenient? I was figuring your current commute costs would be a wash w office garage costs esp if tax advantaged.
Park ridge was my 3rd or 4th choice, behind Long Grove, Riverwoods and Old Irving park, and probably LaGrange in there somewhere too. Ultimately Park Ridge was too expensive for what I wanted, and too many ugly mcmansions there anyway.
“paying for that second car, plus insurance, plus an office garage space, would cost at least double (triple?) the cost of one bus/one cab ride a day.”
What’s your cabfare? $10, w/ tip? taking a cab *both* ways would be only slightly more expensive than monthly (convenient) parking + insurance + gas + city sticker/license/maintenance, nevermind any acquisition cost for the car. one-way cab + bus, + occasional paid-for cab is *clearly* cheaper than driving.
“monthly (convenient) parking”
Can you pay for parking on fully pre tax basis these days? Was thinking cab fare plus bus was more like $15/day, so ~$300/month, which is maybe low for a premium parking spot, but maybe there’s a tax subsidy (though realize cta may be subsidized too) and perhaps an implicit or explicit subsidy from the firm. I suppose nonny may also be traveling for work many days/month, wchich would affect the calc.
“occasional paid-for cab”
Shouldn’t nonny be working so much that the paid for cabs are routine? I suppose he wouldn’t have trouble finidng a cab were that the case.
Also, seriousish question, does Uber help w getting cabs in loop at busy times, or do cabbies turn it off then?
my guess was park ridge, niles or morton grove. long grove is too far
Park ridge is nice for sure but no where as nice as itasca or roselle. Those places rock.
“itasca or roselle”
Don’t forget Crystal Lake and Elgin.
whadda bout planfield……
Aurora is nicer than Plainfield.
Aurora is nicer than plainfield; but batavia is nicer than aurora. but we all can agree that huntley sucks.
I don’t care to actually know and I won’t believe HD’s response but my bet is HD & family ended up in Mt. Prospect. MtP fits the most believable of his contradictory posts – filled with 50 yr old ranch homes w/ many long term owners & a smattering of Mcmansions. On Metra, close to Tristate & 355 and very close to the widest array of grocers I can imagine. With great schools & lower RE taxes than Long Grove / Lake County.
i think mt prospect’s too far. pretty sure he’s closer. tfo would have the best guess but he wont say.
that long grove place looked pretty nice though
“Which is, of course, no small part of why nonny dirties himself with proximity to us rubes rather than living in Manhattan.”
I thought annony was some irish-catholic-suburbanite, from Orland, Tinley or Beverly? Seriously. And then he turned his back on his people, upbringing, religion, etc the whole-nine yards….married a JAP and now lives in ELP, but he’s an clever atheist, but his wife is more clever, with his kids being mitzvahed as Jews, `
“And then it gets even more tricky if you have 2 kids in a walk-up and the husband is away at work all day. So you take your 2 year old down three flights of stairs and strap him into the car seat with your car in the back parking space.”
Put the backpack diaper bag on, then carry them both at the same time, baby is in the car seat so you deal that one with elbow… grab the second one with the other arm. What’s the big deal? You’re carrying 15 lbs. in one arm, 30 lbs. in the other. Leave the stroller in the car. A person would be insane to leave a kid in a car? Isn’t that illegal?
“tfo would have the best guess but he wont say.”
We’re gonna have to crowdsource this thing then. The main problem is there’s no real payoff.
“The main problem is there’s no real payoff.”
I’m kind of enjoying the thought of recruiting a male minority teenager to sneak up behind men at the Barrington metra stop sporting Ralph Lauren shirts – maybe yelling “homedelete” in each guy’s ear to see what reaction he gets. My guess though is that homedelete is engaging in some internet performance art and is nothing at all like he claims to be.
the only payoff is letting the ruse live on. hd’s misdirection and obfuscations contain the same joy that you’d find in a kid writing a letter to santa, or playing hide and seek. no fun telling him the jig is up.
“What are you talking about? This happens every single day all over the city. I know people who had to put the one kid in the car when it was parked on the street (they had NO parking space) and THEN had to go and get the other kid. How do you think one adult gets two small kids into a car from a 3rd floor walk-up? Takes them both down at the same time???
The people I know who had to deal with this moved to the suburbs! It just wasn’t practical- obviously.”
Bri Bri,
80% of the time your on point. this is the other 20%.
if you cant carry two kids DOWN stairs then there must be a medical problem. second even Irish twins are manageable. and by 2 years old a kid can walk down stairs by themselves.
my buddy who lives in jeff park lives in a high second floor. my wife has carried both our kid and thier kid while his wife carried the stroller and toys down the 3 flights of stairs.
my wife is not super woman, she is a dainty little thing and can manage carrying two 1.5 DOWN stairs with out huffing and puffing.
now my buddy had a fricken 35 pound stroller and his wife carries the stroller and the kid UP the stairs without a problem. she is a chubby out of shape chick so her extra weight and lack of fitness you would think she couldnt do it but did it until her squirt could walk.
Its amazing some of the whacked out things people claim as fact here.
yes it sucks to lug crap up stairs but its really not that bad. how fat and out of shape are you people on here where this is such a serious issue.
how many trips do people make to mcdonalds a day that carrying two kids DOWN stairs is a HUGE issue to where a person would make two trips and leave one in a car?
“And, get this…I know Groove will appreciate it…I’ve even been working the el into the mix. ”
annony,
keep that up and i will stop ribbing you about your comments on walkability to trains.
STOP STOP STOP
HomeDelete just stop, you are not in Long Grove, we all know it. everything you have said previously does not coincide with Long Grove.
and seriously you as a lawyer can agree you blatant misdirection and continued push are sad considering your previous misdirections as a childless peter francis geraci employee and on par with the “optimistic HD” that was actually quite funny at times but pathetic in the repetition.
so i would like to place a cribchatter ban on any mention of you typing Long Grove or and reference to that area.
I have a confession to make. I don’t really live in long grove. When I spoke I 50/s ranches and McMansions ans shopping grocery stores and close to the city, it’s all true.
However, I moved to Schiller park. I love it.
“homedelete (September 28, 2012, 6:21 am)
However, I moved to Schiller park. I love it.”
doode you deserve a hard kick in the nutz. thats all
You are too scared of “city living” to live in schiller park, you obviously moved to Pork Ridge and its no surprise
“However, I moved to Schiller park. I love it.”
Could have sworn I saw you watering your lawn in Rosemont … Low taxes, too.