Are High Floor 1-Bedrooms On Sale in One Museum Park? 1211 S. Prairie in the South Loop
This 39th floor 1-bedroom in One Museum Park at 1211 S. Prairie in the South Loop just came on the market.
The unit is not one of those small 800 square foot one bedrooms.
At 1002 square feet, it has an 8×7 den.
The listing says it has views of the lake, museums, Navy Pier and Buckingham Fountain.
It has the newer construction finishes including hardwood floors.
The kitchen has stainless steel appliances and some kind of stone counter tops.
It has central air and a washer/dryer in the unit.
I can’t tell if parking is included or not (but it is certainly available in the building.)
The unit just came on the market at $50,000 under the 2008 purchase price.
Is this a deal for a high floor luxury one bedroom?
Rose Baldwin at County Line Properties has the listing. See the pictures here.
Unit #3902: 1 bedroom, 1 bath, den, 1002 square feet
- Sold in August 2008 for $470,000 (I can’t tell if this included parking or not)
- Currently listed for $420,000 (also can’t tell if this includes the parking)
- Assessments of $438 a month (includes gas, doorman, cable, pool)
- Taxes of $6499
- Central Air
- Washer/dryer
- Bedroom: 13×13
- Den: 8×7
The downside of buying here is that one day miumiu and her kid are going to be speedwalking through the lobby and run you down
No, for that price point, you should get a powder room and a better location. These will all eventually be in the 200’s
lol @ CH. BTW, these photos suck. I mean it is a 400K plus listing, couldn’t they pay 100$ to a photographer?
@ David, dream on. This is a great building with fab. views that are guaranteed. It is near all the museums. Very close to public transport, shopping, high ways, and not at a tourist flooded location. I actually think this is a great location. Time will tell which one of us were right of course.
bad pictures.
but if price includes parking then it’s not too far out of line. not how i would ever spend $400K (ceilings too low…too cramped…could care less about the views, i’d be claustrophobic), but the location works. it will sell in that neighborhood.
now, re:parking — i once was in that garage. someone has ~4 parking spots that host a fleet of quite nice super cars, including a carrera GT.
i was impressed.
David,
no way. my brother is looking for a 1 bed in the museum park development and can’t even get close to a smaller 1 bed in the older museum park towers for under 220…a short sale popped up for 210 in tower IV recently and sold for over ask within a week or something.
The south loop is an unstable region, but this development has held it’s own relatively well compared to the rest of the area.
I don’t quite see the appeal at this price. However past sales in 3802 and 4205 would say this is priced right and should sell.
” luxury one bedroom?”
Does not compute.
I would rather have a second bathroom than a tiny den.
I wonder who will first offer a suggestion on that, Groove or Ze.
“I would rather have a second bathroom than a tiny den.”
Actually I am with Jenny on this. I never get the whole den thing. A half bath could be used by the guests which is much nicer than them using the owner’s bathroom.
love the views, but that is it. not wortht 200+k more compared to other 1bed + dens in the city.
This is a beautiful building in a very pretty setting, and the apartments are above the average of new apartments, with higher ceilings and nice finishes.
Even so, it’s hard to see $400K-plus for this place. Judging by the scale of the furniture to the room, it’s small and cramped, with uninteresting architecture, and is really rather an ordinary apartment in most respects.
And while the park-like setting of the building is attractive, it feels isolated and removed from the city. That’s because there nothing around there that fronts on the street and no cozy commercial district of shops and restaurants, even on Roosevelt Road, which really doesn’t have much besides the Walgreen’s and the Target. There’s no foot traffic on the street and no reason for there to be any- it’s a place where you drive almost everywhere. You’re surrounded by townhouses that mostly have their backs to the street, which feels desolated at all times and dangerous at night.
“Roosevelt Road, which really doesn’t have much besides the Walgreen’s and the Target.”
And the Trader Joe’s and the Jewel (or does that not count because it’s not right on Roosevelt?).
Look, I’m not a fan, either, but what–of the actually going there 2+ times a month–isn’t within a half a mile? And the “commercial district” is a 10 minute cabride (or 12 minute walk, if you’re Miu or Slooper) straight north.
I don’t buy that this is 1,000 sqft. Even if it is, it seems to live like less. I know others are getting donwnvoted like crazy for saying this, but I would not pay more than 250K.
By retail, I mean not just Big Barn and chain stores, but a retail district with a lot of small, individual businesses and restaurants, like Andersonville, Lincoln Square, or even Lincoln Park-Lakeview.
Districts like that won’t happen near this building, because it is all residential except for the chain stores on Roosevelt Road. At least it’s close to Chinatown even though you can’t exactly walk there. I believe that proximity to such a district makes a place much more desirable and makes the neighborhood safer and more livable, as well as more interesting. This area has the feel of a bedroom suburb set down just outside of downtown. It’s pretty, but it lacks vibrancy and interest.
Roosevelt Rd. is a loser address in Chicago, no wonder they chose Prairie. Still, you have to tell people you live on Roosevelt Rd.
“By retail, I mean not just Big Barn and chain stores, but a retail district with a lot of small, individual businesses and restaurants, like Andersonville, Lincoln Square, or even Lincoln Park-Lakeview.”
So, basically just those three hoods, since you hate Bucktown.
And, of course, that wouldn’t develop on Roosevelt in any event. It would be on Wabash and Michigan and maybe State, especially heading south from Roosevelt. Yes, of course Museum Park will never be in the middle of such a district, but that’s also the best thing about the location–park on one side, lakefront (across a bunch of crap) on another.
I like the Near North, too, but can’t afford it. But you are in the middle of everything there, and have a lot of beautiful architecture and the lake to look at, too.
I like to troll Wicker Park in the summer, but it still doesn’t and never has felt really livable. The commercial district is appealing, though. It’s what holds the neighborhood together.
Edgewater and Rogers Park have the potential for good retail districts and hopefully the Edgewater Streetscape plan will move forward and make Broadway more attractive. But right now it is ugly and too wide and noisy. It is going to take a lot of work and rebuilding over decades because Broadway was built as a very auto-oriented street and has too many big, featureless buildings, curb cuts, fast food places, and parking lots fronting the street to be walkable and beautiful, and not enough buildings left with small retail spaces to anchor an attractive retail district. Clark St in Rogers Park might be an attractive district once again, someday, but it needs a lot of work and so does the neighborhood in general.
“I like to troll Wicker Park in the summer”
I’m not entirely sure what this means, but it does sound interesting.
“even on Roosevelt Road, which really doesn’t have much besides the Walgreen’s and the Target”
So I guess that large movie theatre is a figment of my imagination?
@miumiu,
The building is NOT in a nice location and does not demand this price premium. The developer is sitting on hundreds of unsold units.
Eventually, he’ll cut prices and sell them or go bankrupt. I have no interest living in the building either way. It’s NASTY
And yes, I’ve been in it many times
“The building is NOT in a nice location and does not demand this price premium. The developer is sitting on hundreds of unsold units.
Eventually, he’ll cut prices and sell them or go bankrupt. I have no interest living in the building either way. It’s NASTY”
Moomoo’s going to be sad now. (I would like to know who is guaranteeing the views.)
“I would rather have a second bathroom than a tiny den.”
“Actually I am with Jenny on this. I never get the whole den thing. A half bath could be used by the guests which is much nicer than them using the owner’s bathroom.”
How damn nasty are you people that you would need a half bath IN A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT!!!!!!
“So I guess that large movie theatre is a figment of my imagination?”
Too far from the street, just like the Jewel which is across Roosevelt from the Walgreen’s.
Trader Joe’s also a figment. But we’re discounting big box/national retailers (except Target or Walgreens, natch) anyway, remember?
“(I would like to know who is guaranteeing the views.)”
Lakefront ordinance, no? Not a constitutional guarantee, but at least as good as any contractual guarantee.
” I never get the whole den thing. A half bath could be used by the guests which is much nicer than them using the owner’s bathroom.’
If you live in a 1 bedroom you probably aren’t having a ton of people over all the time. I would think you’d rather have a separate den as an office, workout room or even guest crashpad and share a bathroom rather than have an extra bathroom that goes unused most of the time.
“How damn nasty are you people that you would need a half bath IN A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT!!!!!!”
more correctly, who are you inviting over that you couldn’t possible stand to share a bathroom or use after they’ve used it?
“Lakefront ordinance, no? Not a constitutional guarantee, but at least as good as any contractual guarantee.”
Can I get money or performance from someone if something should get built notwithstanding the ordinance?
Also about location, i get the concept Laura “vintage far north side condo lover” Louzader is going for.
would you really want to walk down roosevelt past the fugliest (in all aspects) train stop in all of the city to get a gallon of milk, or walk the Roosevelt highway over the blandest bridge to get some stuff from target. Or get run over on michigan ave then hassled by bum or thug and dodge two hipsters riding a fixie on the sidewalk to get to trader joe’s. or walk down michigan ave to the firehouse restaurant which that way becomes a 45 mph stretch for cars.
at least at LSE you have a nice quiet stroll to mariano’s fro milk or the steak house or the two other eatery’s there
“Can I get money or performance from someone if something should get built notwithstanding the ordinance?”
Can you get it from a bankrupt entity? Or an entity with the appropriate connections? Even deed restrictions (of the non-discriminatory sort) can get tossed eventually.
“Can you get it from a bankrupt entity?”
So the guarantee is imperfect, but at least there was someone to get something from if they weren’t bankrupt. As it it, I might have some (more than) reasonable expectation taht nothing will get built to block my views. I might also, albeit to lesser degree, have an expectation of continued good views in a different building for views that are unlikely to change, but I don’t think of that as guaranteed.
Granted, I don’t have a reference to point to, but I think of a guarantee as providing me some (imperfect) ability to get something from someone when things don’t work out.
“more correctly, who are you inviting over that you couldn’t possible stand to share a bathroom or use after they’ve used it?”
I could totally see Groove stealing my Oyster shell shaped soaps… Would rather him piss off my balcony, than let him in my bathroom.
“I could totally see Groove stealing my Oyster shell shaped soaps… Would rather him piss off my balcony, than let him in my bathroom.”
have a hilarious story about ganking something from a persons house. To be young a stupid again, if only ;(
“have a hilarious story about ganking something from a persons house”
Funny you would say that.. you ganking something in my bathroom was my second biggest fear…
Was actually thinking you might get the soap reference from Flamingo Kid… “What are you afraid of, that he’s going to steal the soap?” Ah…. Janet Jones how I loved her!!
I still find the idea of having my desk in a windowless corner of the house which feels like a closet unattractive. Also if I have my own bath I can have my products, personal items, and so on there without having to remove them for the guests to clear up space or prevent them getting ruined. But I think most men cannot fathom this as they have what a toothbrush, deodorant, and brush in their bathroom?
As for the building being nasty, David I assume you have not set foot in the building. How many other building are there with these views, both indoor and outdoor pools and pretty decent assessments?
@ DZ, why would I be sad? Not like I am the developer. The fewer people like, it is more likely I would get a good deal. But honestly, everyone has their own taste but calling MPE nasty, just shows a hater or a complete tool. It is like calling Adriana Lima nasty, you can prefer JLO or Pam Anderson if that is what you dig, but hey calling Lima nasty shows something ain’t right ; )
“How many other building are there with these views, both indoor and outdoor pools and pretty decent assessments?”
The assessments are only “decent” because it’s new construction. Look at any other older building with those amenities and you’ll see what will happen over even just the next 5 years.
“How damn nasty are you people that you would need a half bath IN A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT!!!!!!”
It really has to do with when you have guests over. There’s something to be said about using a half bath rather than going into someone’s private bathroom space (that is usually near or even practically in their bedroom.) The half bath really makes a difference in the one bedroom units.
“Was actually thinking you might get the soap reference from Flamingo Kid”
golf clap for the tie in to flamingo kid. between you anon(ufo) dropping movie references i may need to up my netflix subscriptions.
“Funny you would say that.. you ganking something in my bathroom was my second biggest fear…”
dang it dont want to ask i know its a trap and a lob ball set up, but gosh darn it what is your #1 biggest fear? that your father would get captured by Iraqi pilots and you would need your black flight teacher to help you steal a f16 mig to rescue him? or that you would need to drive your estranged son across the country in your big rig, then have to win a arm wrestling match to win the money to buy your own rig and the respect of the woman you knocked up richy rich parents? or that your a middle age man in Rio and end up tapping your daughters 17 year old BFF?
“It is like calling Adriana Lima nasty, you can prefer JLO or Pam Anderson if that is what you dig, but hey calling Lima nasty shows something ain’t right ; )”
doodette, Adrian Lima looks like a 13 year old girl and that is the nasty part. Are you talking about Pam anderson pre-baywatch, during baywatch or post baywatch (also pre-hepatitis or post-hepatitis?)
and seriously J-Lo? WTF the Pam Anderson reference circa 2012 is bad enough but the J-Lo one by far trumps it. (side not wife bought two J-Lo tops from Kohls and they are surprisingly nice)
and since the convo has turned. Kate Upton is not beautiful, yes she is hot in a slutty club chick sort of way, but no way beautiful. and really Brooklyn Decker? even bob could pull in better on dollar beer night in joliet durning 3am closing call. shoot anything at the anti cruelty society would be an upgrade. i couldnt take it anymore so the long stand SI subscription was canceled this year.
“It really has to do with when you have guests over. There’s something to be said about using a half bath rather than going into someone’s private bathroom space (that is usually near or even practically in their bedroom.) The half bath really makes a difference in the one bedroom units.”
sorry bri bri 100% disagree with you there. We have one bathroom that is used by the three of us. you can come over at anytime and it will be in pristine condition. there is a reason they make drawers, cabinets, and storage.
yes when i was 19 or 20 years old my bathroom looked like a war zone but i soon became a functioning adult a few years later so a second bathroom for guests was not needed
“sorry bri bri 100% disagree with you there. We have one bathroom that is used by the three of us. you can come over at anytime and it will be in pristine condition. there is a reason they make drawers, cabinets, and storage.”
I disagree Groove. (and I’ve been in plenty of bigger 1-bedrooms over the years to visit friends for football etc.)
If you had a choice- what do you go for? The 1 bath or the 1.5 or 2 bath?
Enough said.
“The half bath really makes a difference in the one bedroom units.”
Agreed. In fact during the boom I know of one or two buildings with floorplans that had one bedroom+den with 1.75 or 2 baths. Pretty uncommon but some of them have great views too.
“yes when i was 19 or 20 years old my bathroom looked like a war zone but i soon became a functioning adult a few years later so a second bathroom for guests was not needed”
I guess your guests don’t include anyone like cousin Eddie from the movie Vacation.
Even a half bath is going to cost more for the developer to put in than a den. Depends on what you want. I’d prefer the den, anyway. Don’t really see any inconvenience in a single full bath for a one bedroom unit. If you don’t like that buy a 2/2. I like having a separate office with maybe a couch for a friend or family member to crash on when visiting. Also, the listing shows garage parking for one, I would assume its included without a separate price noted.
I live in another of the MP buildings & love living in the neighborhood. We walk all over, not after 10:00 pm, but I’ve never done that anywhere I’ve lived. Just a couple blocks to the Mich. Ave. buses & we’re anywhere on Michigan or Taylor Street in minutes. Grant Park across the street, lake, museums, beach a 10 min. walk. and many really good places to eat in walking distance.
Doubt if the views are really guaranteed, but I’m betting they outlive me.
“I disagree Groove. (and I’ve been in plenty of bigger 1-bedrooms over the years to visit friends for football etc.)
If you had a choice- what do you go for? The 1 bath or the 1.5 or 2 bath?
Enough said.”
if i had the choice it would be a 1 bath, i could get far more use out of the squarefootage than a half or second full bath only for guest who come to visit 3 times a week.
remember now we are talking a one bedroom apartment/condo here and sqft is at a premium, why waste it on a redundant area.
its thought processes like these that have f’ed up floor plans in all new construction. People with silly notions of what is necessary, and the builders are building to sell so they incorporate a bunch of silly “wants” into one small space.
its proven on cribchatter that we have never found a decent condo floor plan on any posted here, reason why is YOU DONT NEED A HALF BATH FOR A 1 BEDROOM, YOU DONT NEED A WASHER AND DRYER IN A UNIT IN A 1 BEDROOM, YOU DONT NEED A SEPARATE SHOWER STALL AND A TUB IN A 1 BEDROOM, YOU DONT NEED A DEDICATED FOYER IN A 1 BEDROOM, YOU DONT NEED TO EVER “BUY” A 1 BEDROOM, I CAN GO ON IF YOU LIKE
“If you had a choice- what do you go for? The 1 bath or the 1.5 or 2 bath?”
Are there actually any 1/2 out there? I suppose if you have the choice, it’s a nice to have. It shouldn’t be a deal breaker.
“Are there actually any 1/2 out there?”
340 OTP and 600 NF have some 1/1.5s, no?
And Trump, too? Sure there are plenty of others.
OK, looking it up, the 600 NF “1.5” is a quasi-1.5–with 3 sinks, but only one toilet, and the sliding door to separate the “public” toilet + sink from the private shower/tub/sinks. Which would take care of Miu’s issue, but not everyone’s.
linky to an example: http://www.600fairbanks.com/_floorplans/13to36_08.html
If you can only afford the 1 bed you are too much of a loser to have friends anyways. Problem solved.
Thanks Anon. The sliding door is an interesting concept…i could see it as a solution for a house that just doesn’t have the space for another separate bathroom but has a large enough space to put in a bigger shared bathroom (in lieu of a spa bathroom?)
“Which would take care of Miu’s issue, but not everyone’s.”
Certainly not jenny’s issue…
To Icarus and others who wonder about one bedroom and 1.5 baths:
Many if not most of today’s new homeowners grew up in houses with more than one bathroom. Also, mom and dad both had jobs outside the home. Imagine the lineup at a single bathroom with mom, dad and the kiddies all trying to take-care-of-bidness at roughly the same time.
Enter the master bath and powder room for guests. Greatest improvement to the template of American housing since central heat.
Now the kids are on their own in one- or two-bed units with one bath. But along comes a roomie/sweetheart/spouse to share the living space. The negotiations and logistics involved in getting ready for work/sleep at roughly the same time can be mind-blowing if one has never experienced this before. So yes, a separate potty-and-sink space for each person is a welcome bonus, even if they still have to take turns for the tub/shower.
“Certainly not all of jenny’s issues…”
Fixed that for you.
Would provide a nice, private, tiled space for the tortoise.
Local Lassie, very good explanation. You managed to argue your case without insulting or belittling anyone…i suspect you will be banned from CC immediately. 😀
Two fulls baths in a one bedroom is completely reasonable for a couple. For a single person, maybe it’s not as necessary, but chances are most people are going to end up living with someone at some point during their ownership of a one bedroom.
At the very least a half bath is necessary for times when both people have food poisoning!!
“At the very least a half bath is necessary for times when both people have food poisoning”
the tub, potted plant, balcony, a professors bucket (ala Van wilder) will all suffice in the very rare occasion that will ever happen.
jenny’s obsessed with bathrooms.
““Funny you would say that.. you ganking something in my bathroom was my second biggest fear…”
dang it dont want to ask i know its a trap and a lob ball set up, but gosh darn it what is your #1 biggest fear? that your father would get captured by Iraqi pilots and you would need your black flight teacher to help you steal a f16 mig to rescue him? or that you would need to drive your estranged son across the country in your big rig, then have to win a arm wrestling match to win the money to buy your own rig and the respect of the woman you knocked up richy rich parents? or that your a middle age man in Rio and end up tapping your daughters 17 year old BFF?”
WTF,
no love for the Iron Eagle, over the Top, and Blame it on Rio reference?
Groove 77…you do realize that “Bridesmaids” was a work of FICTION and not LIFESTYLE ADVICE, don’t you?
“no love for the Iron Eagle, over the Top, and Blame it on Rio reference?”
Iron Eagle – Thought you were referencing Firefox and confused Clint Eastwood for a black guy
over the Top- Glad I missed that one…
Blame it on Rio- Didn’t realize you were making a movie reference, made me uncomfortable thinking that you were having me followed, but didn’t understand why you thought the second girl was my kid.
“Groove 77…you do realize that “Bridesmaids” was a work of FICTION and not LIFESTYLE ADVICE, don’t you?”
sadly have not seen that movie, I have a kid under 4 so havent seen to many movies in the last 4 years. all my movie references will be from the 80’s and 90’s
“Iron Eagle – Thought you were referencing Firefox and confused Clint Eastwood for a black guy”
i wanted to reference Iron Eagle two, but that one went straight to beta-max. may have lost a few followers with that one
“over the Top- Glad I missed that one…”
that one you should have watched, the Expendables you should have skipped.
“Blame it on Rio- Didn’t realize you were making a movie reference, made me uncomfortable thinking that you were having me followed, but didn’t understand why you thought the second girl was my kid.”
I was going to go for a Short Circuit “Johhny 5 alive” or a Johnny Dangerously “Once only once” but thought the blame it on Rio was more fitting.
I love the view, and would use the den as a walk in closet/dressing room. But I don’t drive. This neighborhood is Nasty. I once attempted to use the restroom in JewelOsco at Roosevelt/Wabash and….. uh… No, disgusting, almost as bad as the Redline elevator right there, omg that is revolting. Walking around this neighborhood, leapfrogging giant loogies all over the sidewalk is not a joy. And I’m really afraid one of those psychotic panhandler’s would totally get away scott-free mugging me.
Please please please continue to hate the SL and denigrate it as much as you can. For those that visit once and hate it stay away. We don’t want you in our neighborhood and don’t care what you think of it. Enough said
“If you can only afford the 1 bed you are too much of a loser to have friends anyways. Problem solved.”
Yeah because you’re a dumbass I’ve seen 1/1.5s w/den in top tier/near top tier buildings for 340k whereas 2/2s with 200sf more are as low as 540k if very lucky, but more often 600k+.+1 Icarus he’s right.
Doubt you can afford either, Bob 2.