Be One With Nature in This 5-Bedroom SFH on the River at 4156 N. Rockwell in North Center
This 5-bedroom single family home at 4156 N. Rockwell in North Center is one of the rare homes that is directly on the Chicago River.
The house is one of a handful on this block of Rockwell that was built in 2003.
It is on a corner lot measuring 29×141.
If serenity and nature is what you seek, the house overlooks the Chicago River, the nature trail and Horner Park across the river.
The listing says there is a fenced 25×30 yard.
The listing also says the house has a Mission/Arts & Craft interior.
The kitchen has stone counter tops and stainless steel appliances.
3 out of the 5 bedrooms are on the second floor with the other 2 in the lower level/walk-out basement.
The house also has a rare (for Chicago with its alley system) 2-car attached garage in the front of the property.
After being on the market nearly 2 years, the house has been reduced $150,000.
What will it take to sell this property?
Millie Rosenbloom at Baird & Warner has the listing. See the pictures here.
4156 N. Rockwell: 5 bedrooms, 3.5 baths, no square footage listed, 2 car garage
- Sold in September 2003 for $945,000
- Originally listed in January 2010 for $1.449 million
- Reduced
- Currently listed for $1.299 million
- Taxes of $12,742
- Central Air
- Bedroom #1: 22×14 (second floor)
- Bedroom #2: 22×12 (second floor)
- Bedroom #3: 10×11 (second floor)
- Bedroom #4: 14×12 (lower level)
- Bedroom #5: 11×12 (lower level)
beautiful place, but seems too expensive for this market as I don’t how many fellow nature-lovers are dropping a million bucks to live on the river.
and those taxes are going to get a major bump as well.
4138 also available for $1.135mm.
4150 SOLD in June for $985k.
7 houses in that row.
I’d say under a million. It honestly looks pretty suburban track home to me with finishes that do not warrant an above million ask.
Are those ducks included in the purchase price?
Nice house. Lame location. I don’t get who spends that much for a sub-par location.
“Are those ducks included in the purchase price?”
Once Canada geese decide to nest near you, it’s hell to get rid of them, so I’d go with “yes”, and it should be a deduction.
Pro tip: go into their nests and shake the eggs. Fewer foul water fowl. (If it were a river outside the city, I’d recommend birdshot + lab = sausage).
“Nice house. Lame location. I don’t get who spends that much for a sub-par location.”
What are the “par” (as opposed to great) locations in your estimation?
Like the house generally. I never like inside columns like the ones here. Also, is the master bath open at the top to the bedroom, which wouldn’t seem ideal, or are those really hard to see windows? I’d have to think they’re windows but I really can’t see them.
Non-river side of the location sucks obviously, unless you work at the sanitation bureau across the street, in which case it would be a sweet commute. I’ve driven around here but just can’t get on board with the location. It is in coonley.
Also, is there any water access? Can you get a canoe/kayak into the water here?
I like the geese and think it’s funny when they get angry and make honking noises.
The 2003 price seems about right. Very few places have appreciated since 2003. The seller seems greedy.
Woof wooof woof woof……
There is a doggie daycare right next door. Living next to that might break the silence of living on the river. Other than that I like the idea of living on the water and although I don’t like the mission/arts and crafts I guess that I could tolerate the style of the home with the benefit of this location.
This isn’t san francisco. I honestly can’t believe anyone would pay more than 500-600 for a place like this. Sorry, just my opinion.
“suburban track home”
is the term track or tract?
“Pro tip: go into their nests and shake the eggs. Fewer foul water fowl.”
weird
“Can you get a canoe/kayak into the water here?”
I was told by the store owner (Naragansett and Irving Pk.) canoes are the better purchase btw the two (for 2 people). Is this correct?
RE: What are the “par” (as opposed to great) locations in your estimation?
Well, as far as North Center goes, this is location is crap. Zero shopping or dining options. Only public transportation options are Irving bus or Western bus (several blocks away).
Since you asked my *opinion*:
Excellent North Center – St Bens (Addison to Irving, Lincoln to Western)
Par North Center- East of Western Montrose south to Irving
Sub-par North Center – West of Western
You could get a Victorian on the 2000 block of Bradley (Bell District, a F*ing lovely block) for well under a million.
2044 Bradley Closed 08/11 @$665k
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/2044-W-Bradley-Pl-60618/home/13390653
2042 Bradley Closed 12/10 @$670k
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/2042-W-Bradley-Pl-60618/home/13389691
2022 Waveland (gutted 5 br greystone SFH converstion) closed 12/10 @$880k
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/2022-W-Waveland-Ave-60618/home/13389815
It is a very nice house with good schools (right?) in a pretty good location for SFH’s in the city (no flooding here right?)
but I would be very surprised if this sold at the current ask, probably a million or slightly less gets it sold.
“is the term track or tract?”
Tract.
“canoes are the better purchase btw the two (for 2 people). Is this correct?”
Canoes are *much* more stable, so for the amatuer paddler, usually the better chocie.
“Can you get a canoe/kayak into the water here?”
Don’t believe there is a developed entry point, no.
“probably a million or slightly less gets it sold.”
Comp sold for $985, don’t know how this one si supposed to be $200k+ better.
I think it’s in Coonley.
RE: Location
Check out the Google streetview of this place and see:
– a wierd commercial building on the other side of the street
– a row of tidy, yet plain little bungalows
– this little subdivision of 7 or so new construction houses
This ain’t Millionaires Row. That’s my point. Hence, my subpar North Center comment.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&qscrl=1&nord=1&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS407US408&q=4156+n+rockwell&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&ion=1&biw=1280&bih=602&wrapid=tlif131836371690410&safe=active&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=SKKUTtzQEYaitgectMiMBw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=3&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAg
At first I thought this isolated despot of North Center didn’t get the memo that home prices are falling…
until I re-read:
“After being on the market nearly 2 years, the house has been reduced $150,000.”
Is that the Chicago River or the (de)-Nile?
“Can you get a canoe/kayak into the water here?”
“Don’t believe there is a developed entry point, no.”
Check out the birds eye view from Bing. It is clear that there is boat access for the most southern unit in the development. I’d guess that all the units share that spot. Also the Doggie daycare building has a pier and boat launch area just south of there.
I guess on the upside that if you lived here that your kid could paddle to high school (Gordon Tech) right down the river! Now that would be cool.
nice place; about 100% overpriced.
delusional ask.
Yeah, that location sucks. The developer must have been somebody’s somebody to get a zoning change for that parcel of land to build 7 tract homes on the river.
Yes, it will likely sell for $0
“RE: Location
…
Hence, my subpar North Center comment.”
Nah, you just posted “Lame location.” and “sub-par location” and I couldn’t remember if you were among the “who would ever spend more than $X to live more than 837 meters from Lake Michigan?” crowd.
Definitely a subpar location in NC, but that should be obvious bc it’s west of Western.
anon (tfo)
Agreed. I gave a complete answer to your question, including the west of Western NC issue.
The comment is “in moderation” so I assume you can’t see it.
I loves me some North Center (Think Bradley @ Damen)
The only location worse than this would be Forest Glen.
“It is clear that there is boat access for the most southern unit in the development.”
You sure that is access for this development, and not for the boat repair (and/or storage) business next door? Looks like there is a chainlink fence all along that concrete pier.
Also, ever try to get into a canoe off a ~5′ high concrete pier? I wouldn’t advise it.
That said, looks like there are two workable (public) access points: off of the semi-circle path downhill from the houses and from the Berteau sidewalk extended.
Note that the chunk of Berteau immediately adjacent to this house is perpendicular public parking.
Oh yeah, the suburbs!
LOL. Peace out
TB:
Only one I see is the one I (very selectively) quoted from. Like I sez, just couldn’t remember if you were a “What’s a North Center” person.
NYC: “The only location worse than this would be Forest Glen.”
Ah, a Bubbly Creek fan. We all appreciate your contributions to society, my friend.
“wierd commercial building on the other side of the street”
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http://www.cfmcusa.com/
“Note that the chunk of Berteau immediately adjacent to this house is perpendicular public parking.”
The place on the trapezoid lot across Berteau at the end of the row is fat. Get the alley, get 35? ft. street frontage, 45? at the back, have the river off your yard, plentiful parking for your guests.
“The place on the trapezoid lot across Berteau at the end of the row is fat.”
Looks to have a last sale of $991k in Mar-06.
“You sure that is access for this development, and not for the boat repair (and/or storage) business next door”
You were right about the 5 foot drop and chain link fence in front of the first unit but FYI that is not a boat repair/storage area. It is a storage area for furry tail wagging friends called Stay. Nice place, if it was closer I’d consider keeping my dog there when on vacation. He ends up at Paradise4paws near O’Hare or Midway.
http://www.staydoghotel.com
“that is not a boat repair/storage area”
Former, perhaps?
The bing bridseye shows two or three covered sailboats on land, and that notch further south sure looks like it has/had a boat lift.
Okay, I checked. Looks like Bond Boat Sales (wound down in ’04)used to own both the 4114 and 4134 buildings and the land where the 7 houses were built.
Go Cyclesport, Stay and Royal Treatment Veterinary Center occupy most of the building(s) now.
All of that dock area is actually on MWRD property and not dependable in its permanence.
Can we please refer to this stretch of Rockwell by its proper name.. “Ken Widdes Way” Sorry had to say it…he was my dad’s business partner for forty-some years…
I grew up seeing that park on a weekly basis. Oh how it has changed. I get around the city quite a bit and I have never seen a park attract a more troubled visitor than it did in the early 80’s.
Too bad such a nice, well-appointed, commodious house is such an architectural disaster. I mean, but this place is seriously ugly.
Worse to put something that looks like this in such a lovely setting. The bank of the Chicago River is wonderful, and the yard is beautiful with its dense growth.
Does anyone know if the Chicago River smells in this area?
de-nile! clever icarus.
vlajos, if it were worth zero it would be infinity % overpriced.
I really like the goblin in the cc pic of this place. almost looks superimposed. fancy photography sabrina
Would be a hell of a lot cooler if it had a private boat slip.
So is the back up like public access or something?
I see FAIL all around with no boat slip and a doggy day care nearby (rather slit my wrist than deal with that)
Sweet location though close to the park.
I have no opinion on price for this one.
Most of the existing private boat/canoe launches in the north branch of the Chicago River are there illegally. They are merely tolerated.
However, no one could realistically put in a NEW canoe launch in the Chicago River on their property. This would require permits from both the Army Corps and the MWRDGC, which has stated that they will not issue them.
Public canoe launches in city parks are another matter.
“Does anyone know if the Chicago River smells in this area?”
It is a river, it doesn’t have the capacity to smell. This stretch is relatively clean, so it doesn’t particularly stink..
“This stretch is relatively clean, so it doesn’t particularly stink..”
..most of the time. Peak summer, after a CSO incident, not great, also not great if its been dry for an extended period and the river is a bit low. Worse as you move closer to the treatment outlet near Lawrence. Think the canoe rental spot in Clark Park is still open, so take a paddle this weekend–should be great weather for it.
Stink factor will decrease as the Rahm-driven modernization of the Chicago wastewater system moves forward.
“It is a river, it doesn’t have the capacity to smell.”
I think he meant for people nearby the river, who do have the capacity to smell, to smell bad things.
“A CSO incident?” What, members of our esteemed orchestra contribute to water pollution?
Canoe vs. Rowboat – Which is better for river navigation?
“Which is better for river navigation?”
Kayak!
“Canoe vs. Rowboat – Which is better for river navigation?”
Canoe.
Ze is correct that the kayak is better than the canoe, but the kayak also requires more paddling skill–unless you are solo, in which case the kayak is *much* easier than a (standard) canoe.
I’d stick with a canoe as well. Wouldn’t be too keen on doing enders in the Chicago River, let alone rolls.
Kayaking solo is easiest, but yes, with two people go with the canoe – tandem kayaks are tough unless both people have done it before and are experience. The LAST thing you want in the Chicago River is to be getting splashed by the guy paddling in front of/behind you.
If you are going to paddle the Chicago River, a canoe allows a little more distance between the water surface and your face (you’re sitting higher). Down lower in a canoe, you are more likely to get some form of splash in your eyes or mouth.
In all it’s probably good for you… helps build the immune system. Much like a trip to the thrift store.
I’m surprised paddleboats aren’t more popular than Kayaks… I mean the river is pretty gross why would you wanna be all up in it in a kayak!
rowing shell, built for speed!
“Canoe vs. Rowboat – Which is better for river navigation?”
They should fill the river with swan paddle boats.
Jenny… when you say swan paddle boats on the Chicago river.. you mean like this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschwabe/363116607/in/photostream/
better.. much better…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/speziali/328547226/
Jenny… when you say swan paddle boats on the Chicago river.. you mean like this?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dschwabe/363116607/in/photostream/
and even better … this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/speziali/328547226/
damn.. had the wrong link on that first picture… meant to be this.. much better.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/speziali/329590773/in/photostream/
my friends and I have generally just made a beeline for navy pier, the water is indistinguishable from the lake when you get to maybe the Trump. still need to check out the south channel, though.
“I mean the river is pretty gross why would you wanna be all up in it in a kayak!”
Ummm.. Yes Gringo. Although the riders don’t have to be beautiful.
OT: 1) has anyone ever taken a motorboat up the Calumet river, into Lake Calumet, etc. even as far west as Blue Island and back? Doesn’t it boring for these boaters to just go back and forth in front of the skyline everytime? 2) Why don’t more boaters than is typically seen cruise the river system, as a % of boaters just doing the same-old on the lakefront? tks
I never understood the allure of boating in the Chicago area. You can’t use the boat for the vast majority of the year and how does sitting out on a boat continue to be interesting? With the huge cost, it’s odd that so many boats fill the lake on nice days.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder?
“I never understood the allure of boating in the Chicago area. You can’t use the boat for the vast majority of the year and how does sitting out on a boat continue to be interesting? With the huge cost, it’s odd that so many boats fill the lake on nice days”
“I never understood the allure of boating in the Chicago area. You can’t use the boat for the vast majority of the year and how does sitting out on a boat continue to be interesting? With the huge cost, it’s odd that so many boats fill the lake on nice days.”
that’s one of the reasons everyone doesn’t own a boat.
“Absence makes the heart grow fonder?”
More fun than a summer only car?
Heard that the happiness that comes on the day you sell the boat can’t be beat?
a lot of the boats you see on the lake are rented from the local harbors, my friend will rent a boat from belmont harbor and go out sailing a day or two a year
@helmethofer
I once put in a canoe near the Torrence Avenue bridge at the Calumet River, as part of a guided tour. We canoed up to the O’Brien Locks (but not through them) and up into Lake Calumet.
I didn’t really see much boat traffic, not even recreational craft. Most of the large boats were tied to the docks further upriver near the mouth. The water was generally clean and didn’t smell at all. Birds galore down there, included egrets and herons. The largest Black Crowned Night Heron rookery in the midwest is located near 122nd and Torrence in the “Indian Ridge Marsh”.
The whole area is a crazy mix of lakes and wetlands, natural areas, large vacant parcels covered in slag, and a few remnant industries. Check it out.
The Palos Forest Preserves also has really good canoeing, including many lakes and the Cal Sag Channel. The I&M canal may be canoeable in parts, but you’ll have to portage.
The Evanston Park District and Northwestern both rented Standup Paddleboards this summer (Think of a large surfboard with a gondola paddle). They wanted $20/hour.
@Vlajos
I once heard boat ownership described as like getting into a cold shower in your clothes, while throwing hundred dollar bills into the drain.
I love the lake, spend lot’s of time starring at it, and swim when it is warm enough. However, the lake can kill you in many many ways. Sailing, windsurfing, kitesurfing, etc. just plain scare the crap out of me.
danny – Kitesurfing is simply one of the most awesomest sports ever. Never came close to a bad experience and I go a few times a week. Worst water injury I ever had was actually surfing. Nothing like smashing your face into the floor of the ocean so hard that you crack your tooth, and as your head retorts harder than you ever felt before, all you can think of is are you now paralyzed while under the water. That one sucked!
“I once put in a canoe near the Torrence Avenue bridge at the Calumet River, as part of a guided tour. We canoed up to the O’Brien Locks (but not through them) and up into Lake Calumet.
I didn’t really see much boat traffic, not even recreational craft. Most of the large boats were tied to the docks further upriver near the mouth. The water was generally clean and didn’t smell at all. Birds galore down there, included egrets and herons. The largest Black Crowned Night Heron rookery in the midwest is located near 122nd and Torrence in the “Indian Ridge Marsh”.
The whole area is a crazy mix of lakes and wetlands, natural areas, large vacant parcels covered in slag, and a few remnant industries. Check it out.”
does anyone know where I can hire a boat, or rent a boat, to check this out some weekend day? thanks
also, why don’t more douche-bg type boat owners use their boats outside of the typical back-and-forth linear cruise near downtown? How much would gas be? Would it use up an entire tank to go from DT or Hammond marina to Blue Island to Lake Calumet and back? ANY BOATER input on this would be appreciated tks.
“I didn’t really see much boat traffic, not even recreational craft.”
Why is this? Is there a safety reason or something?
“why don’t more douche-bg type boat owners use their boats outside of the typical back-and-forth linear cruise near downtown.”
I know of at least one couple who take their boat from the city to Mich most summer weekends. I think it costs several hundred in gas.
I really meant to rent a SUP this summer. Next year for sure. Maybe I’ll become the Laird of the Lake.
“why don’t more douche-bg type boat owners use their boats outside of the typical back-and-forth linear cruise near downtown?”
Boats get about 1mi/gallon; the average boat has 75-100 gallon tanks. This past summer, boat gas averaged about $5/gal (no ethanol). That little ride to downtown and back usually costs $50, minimum. That’s why they don’t usually ride them further.
One time, we did go down the Chicago river locks, to the Cal-Sag, and back through the O’Brian locks to the lake. An amazing (albeit expensive) experience.
@ Ze: I was in Biarritz, France one summer a few years ago. The surf looked great, and I wanted to take a private lesson. The instructors said that conditions were too rough for a beginner lesson — even one on one.
Still, it was so nice that I had to get in the water. Of course, I immediately lost my footing and was just bobbing up and down like a cork. There were enough people around that I knew I would be able to summon help if necessary. But for about a good minute I was completely helpless other than keeping my head above water. A surf instructor saw me, and came out to rescue my ass.
That minute of helplessness was quite jarring. I consider it a micro-near-death-experience. Cracking one’s tooth on the ocean floor is disturbing as fuck.
Did you ever see the movie “Dog Town and Z Boys”, where they surf between the rotted-out piers of Pacific Ocean Park in Santa Monica, CA?
“One time, we did go down the Chicago river locks, to the Cal-Sag, and back through the O’Brian locks to the lake. ”
Does this route mean you started downtown, then went south thru Chinatown, took the sanitary and ship canal south all the way to Burr Ridge/Lemont, then turned east on the Cal Sag channel, past Palos, past Blue Island, and then up to Lake Calumet and into Lake Michigan?
If that’s 100 miles, it would cost $500 to do this? How long would it take?
I’m thinking if you had 8 people splitting the cost….
“If that’s 100 miles, it would cost $500 to do this? How long would it take?”
It was a little closer to 55 or 60 miles, and yes that was our route. 60x$5=$300. It took about 6 hours, with 6 people to split the tab.
Developers, Gentrifiers, and Urban Pioneers wanted to make this area all residential. i.e. A huge factory was removed for Town Houses on SW corner of Irving Park and the river. They wanted to get out the ‘icky industry’ but a recession got in the way.
Will be long time before any more new residential appears here.
tomm…you’re back! Have you been at LaSalle and Jackson the past several days?
GDR:
Sorry just saw your post – I only knew ‘Kenny’ a little while but he really struck me as one of the great people God puts on earth to serve as examples for the rest of us re how to live and conduct ones self . May he rest in peace knowing he left the world a better place. And sorry for your family’s loss.
Helmet:
Try Cap’t Patrick (google him in Chicago to see options)
(773) 791-7311. IIrc he rents w or w/o captain, does lessons & does seasonal leases
“does anyone know where I can hire a boat, or rent a boat, to check this out some weekend day? thanks”
One of the main draws of the now-ill-fated River City was the marina, where residents could dock their boats year-round. There is also a loading zone for the Wendella boats that take residents of the Southwest Loop to the Wrigley Building dock during the summer.
@helmethofer: One of my old Geography Professors was a board member of the Friends of the Chicago River. Every year he would give a 10-hour intensive Chicago River system tour on one of the smaller tour boats.
It would leave from downtown, go through the locks to the lake, south to the Calumet River, south to the O’Brien Locks, south to the Cal Sag Channel, west to the Sanitary & Ship Canal, and back north to downtown.
There were probably about 30 people on the boat, and I’m guessing it was about 100 miles total.
danny – I’ll assume it was surfing you tried, since no one would be insane enough to let you take a kite into the water. You need to start on dry land. For surfing – baby waves and a foam board to start, otherwise you’ll hate it.
Now since you mentioned a movie I have seen many times (awesome soundtrack too). Maybe you know somethin I don’t. I have never used a skateboard. Momma Ze wouldn’t allow me to have one. I keep seeing all these motorized boards lately (lots of people skateboard around here). Was looking at one today and thinkin about pickin one up to use to commute around town. Any opinion?
I like longboard skateboards by a company named Flexdex (www.flexdex.com). They are made out of fiberglass composite, and are basically indestructible. The web page has a photo of an elephant stepping on a board, which flexes but does not break. They are very responsive and carve quite well. Great for the beach and for hilly roads.
I also have a Sector 9 board, which is decent. Some of the sharpest boards I’ve seen are by a company called Arbor (out of Venice) — the wood is just beautiful.
I only took up skateboarding at age 30 (I also had a Jewish mother). I mostly use it for transportation and cruising around the beach.
Don’t get a motorized board that runs on petrol. They are stinky and loud. It is so much more fun to kick and carve, with a silent whoosh.
“It would leave from downtown, go through the locks to the lake, south to the Calumet River, south to the O’Brien Locks, south to the Cal Sag Channel, west to the Sanitary & Ship Canal, and back north to downtown.”
danny- they still give this tour. It is offered through the University of Chicago twice in the fall. It’s not 10 hours (not anymore) but about 6-7 hours. It leaves at 8 am at the architecture foundation boat dock and then takes the path you outline. The professor is one of the foremost experts on the river system and has written books about it. He talks for nearly the whole time. Since he’s been doing the tour for decades he has an interesting insight into how the river has changed. It literally did used to stink. But now, much of the wildlife is returning to the southern branches near Lake Calumet where they has restored the prairie grasses etc. We saw blue heron sitting on the shore. You also don’t realize how extensive the canal system is until you’re on it for hours and pass by tons of barges (and realize that those are still used to transport goods down the Mississippi.)
It’s a fascinating way to “see” parts of Chicago you don’t know. It’s a shame there aren’t more tours of the River branches than what is offered by the tour companies. I also wish they would offer one of the northern branches as well.
“One time, we did go down the Chicago river locks, to the Cal-Sag, and back through the O’Brian locks to the lake. ”
Does this route mean you started downtown, then went south thru Chinatown, took the sanitary and ship canal south all the way to Burr Ridge/Lemont, then turned east on the Cal Sag channel, past Palos, past Blue Island, and then up to Lake Calumet and into Lake Michigan?
If that’s 100 miles, it would cost $500 to do this? How long would it take?
I’m thinking if you had 8 people splitting the cost…. ”
The University of Chicago route does indeed follow the path you suggest but it does it opposite (starts on the Lake and then goes back up north through the canals/river.) It uses one of the one level tour boats (so you are literally almost ON the water the whole time.) Lake Michigan was much rougher than I thought and we had good weather. They told us to be prepared for how bad it could be out on the lake. It took us about a half an hour to get down south where the “real” tour began.
I don’t remember the exact cost of the tour but it was about $125 per person. There was no food on board- but you could bring your own food and drink (and you had better since you were trapped on there for about 7 or 8 hours.) I REALLY recommend this tour. It’s through the Graham School of Continuing Studies and is offered on Saturdays in September (when the weather is still decent.)
southbound:
Thank You. Kenny was known for making a lasting impression on everyone he came in contact with. He touched a lot of people and will be missed. For such a shrewd man motivated by watching every penny, he was extremely giving of his time and expertise to anyone he felt appreciated it.
GDR:
you r welcome. It is my guess that your dad might be his partner & accountant who at the service when describing how persuasive Kenny could be said that based on Kennny’s enthusiasm about all things connected to boating, he agreed with a pitch of Kenny’s and purchased a boat slip for himself even though he knew he would never own a boat