Dreaming of a Queen Anne Mansion in Lincoln Park? 634 W. Fullerton Parkway
This 7-bedroom Queen Anne at 634 W. Fullerton Parkway in Lincoln Park came on the market in October of 2011.
It seems to have it all.
The listing says it has been “completely rebuilt” so even though it dates back to 1880, it has a modern interior.
The 7 bedrooms are spread out on the 2nd and 3rd floors of the house.
Built on an oversized lot measuring 30×175, the house also has a rare 3-car garage.
There are Brazilian cherry floors throughout. The kitchen is a custom Nuhaus kitchen with white cabinets with an island and great room.
One interesting feature is that there appears to be both a first floor and second floor laundry.
Is this fairly priced for what is basically old on the outside but “new” on the inside?
Nancy Nugent at Prudential Rubloff has the listing. See the pictures here.
634 W. Fullerton Parkway: 7 bedrooms, 4 baths, 6500 square feet, 3 car garage
- Sold in January 2002 for $2.429 million
- Originally listed in October 2011 for $3.995 million
- Currently still listed for $3.995 million
- Taxes of $21280
- Central Air
- 2 fireplaces
- Bedroom #1: 14×22 (second floor)
- Bedroom #2: 11×16 (second floor)
- Bedroom #3: 9×12 (second floor)
- Bedroom #4: 13×22 (third floor)
- Bedroom #5: 11×12 (third floor)
- Bedroom #6: 12×14 (third floor)
- Bedroom #7: 21×14 (third floor)
I’ll be shocked if this gets more than 2.5Mil. It’s a great street and a beautiful house but c’mon, you can get better deals in the gold coast right now.
Since when is Fullerton a great street? I know the hospital’s moving, so no more ambulances, but it’ll become some kind of major construction project for a long time and there’s always a lot of traffic on Fullerton.
“Since when is Fullerton a great street?”
Great couple of blocks, definitely.
I’d rather live here than Astor, but this is still too rich, relatively speaking.
That sale sign is absurd. When are sellers going to realize that signs serve to other purpose than to advertize the broker’s name (mainly to generate new listings) and, if anything, make the sellers look desperate? [End of my periodic anti-signage rant]
“signs serve to other purpose than to advertize the broker’s name”
As MG himslef said: “My most effective advertising: yard signs with “Contract Pending”; Just Listed and Just Sold postcards to every home within three blocks of every listing.”
http://www.rublogg.com/?p=54
“signs serve to other purpose than to advertize the broker’s name”
While I agree, they do also help you find the building that is for sale when you are going to look at it. Think before smartphones or if you don’t have the listing sheet handy, or the address isn’t clearly visible.
Also, this is Second EmpireI Victorian, Not Queen Anne — just saying.
I agree w/ Andy – much better deals in the Gold Coast. It seems like most vintage places in GC/OT/LP are going for 2000/2001 prices now (like that place on Lincoln Park West that sold for $1.5mm and the Astor place that is a short sale basically at its 2000 price).
The Ames Team brochure for the “astor place”:
http://www.leapre.com/PDFViewer.asp?Brochure=leap/brochures/BR3033586557.PDF
Can I see a listing for a 7 bedroom place with a 3 car garage in the nice part of the GC (i.e., within a few blocks south of North Ave) that is a much better deal? I’m not saying this place should fetch the ask ($2.5 – $2.75 mm is more like it), but some of those “deals” in the GC are distressed situations or have some other issue that big bucks buyers with families don’t want to deal with.
forget it….for that price I’d leave and move to Pacific Heights, get a prettier building too.
I like that place on Astor, especially the kitchen. For the price, I could even learn to live with walking a block to the rental parking, were the house not located so far south (too close to Division; as has been discussed on here many times, the vibe on Dearborn, State and even Astor really changes once you’re within a couple of blocks of Division; it’s night and day compared to being within a couple blocks of North).
I’m a little bit surprised that an Ames listing allowed for a typo (“persuant” to short sale). I guess even the best brokers handle short sales with less care.
“I like that place on Astor, especially the kitchen.”
I like the full floor master suite + den, and that the kids are relegated to the garret.
Not that I can afford either, but the Astor place is much nicer IMHO. I especially like the cedar closet.
“anonny (January 11, 2012, 3:44 pm)
Can I see a listing for a 7 bedroom place with a 3 car garage in the nice part of the GC (i.e., within a few blocks south of North Ave) that is a much better deal? I’m not saying this place should fetch the ask ($2.5 – $2.75 mm is more like it), but some of those “deals” in the GC are distressed situations or have some other issue that big bucks buyers with families don’t want to deal with.”
Here you go:
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/1434-N-Dearborn-St-60610/home/14113412
There are also 2 other places listed at $3mm on Division and Elm in the GC that are a foreclosure and short sale respectively. Both 6 BR. One has parking the other doesn’t. The link above is a short sale in prime GC w/ parking and move in ready.
I think this is a beautiful home and location, even though Fullerton is a traffic nightmare here. For this price though, even at $3M, I would hope that an 1880 home had SOME of the vintage features remaining on the inside that the Ukranian Village listing had for instance. There isn’t a single piece of unpainted woodwork here (Ok, the one railing of the staircase…), no stained glass, nothing to make it so special.
I’ve always wanted a rambling old house like this, but it seems in this case they’ve stripped out most of the vintage character.
For it to be true vintage, there have to be some quirks. For instance, my aunt and uncle and cousins for years lived in a 5-story, 19th century rowhouse quite a bit like this in the Kalorama area of Washington D.C. (the most elegant neighborhood in the city), and it was my favorite house ever. But it had some imperfections (like stairways that tilted a bit), and also some 19th century character.
For instance, the door between the pantry and dining room had frosted glass panels that one couldn’t see through from the dining room. But from the pantry side, there was one panel that was see-through- one-way only. It had been designed so that servants could see when one portion of a meal had been finished so they could go to the dining room and collect plates. Not that my aunt and uncle had servants, but it was fun to look through the one-way glass and think about the old days and who might have lived there in 1880.
The dining room also had a huge, built-in wooden display case that took up one entire wall, and had definitely been originally built with the house. It was quite a show-stopper.
I don’t see this house having quirky features like that, and for that, I dock it a few points. Also, the price is ridiculous, and it’s on Fullerton.
Not sure why my posts are appearing twice – sorry. Computer issues. Damn!
Sabrina,
If possible, please remove the first of the two posts I made re. this house. My second post has a small update. Thanks.
Ahh that is interesting. I agree with your remark that this house’s old character has been striped.
“For instance, the door between the pantry and dining room had frosted glass panels that one couldn’t see through from the dining room. But from the pantry side, there was one panel that was see-through- one-way only. It had been designed so that servants could see when one portion of a meal had been finished so they could go to the dining room and collect plates. Not that my aunt and uncle had servants, but it was fun to look through the one-way glass and think about the old days and who might have lived there in 1880.”
Thanks, Miumiu. I should have explained further, that the window was one-way viewing only so the home’s owners wouldn’t have to look at their servants during dinner!
Division and Elm? Impossible; they run parallel to each other.
How many families need 7 bedrooms nowadays? Maybe it should have been rehabbed into 5 beds at most and the remainder repurposed as dens, offices etc.
“How many families need 7 bedrooms nowadays? Maybe it should have been rehabbed into 5 beds at most and the remainder repurposed as dens, offices etc”
I have nine bedrooms and it is very nice…. (especially for parties/holidays). Also, each dog gets its own room and it makes them behave better. Finally, live in staff needs a place to live). Bedrooms don’t take up that much room and are not “expensive rooms”.
“ChiTownGal (January 12, 2012, 8:03 am)
Division and Elm? Impossible; they run parallel to each other.”
If you read my post you will see I state the following:
“There are also 2 other places listed at $3mm on Division and Elm”
So there are 2 other places listed at $3mm – one on Division and the other on Elm.
I can’t tell if Clio is telling tales, or if he really has 9 bedrooms (and lives alone) and just wants to show off his wealth. Either way, it brings some levity to this site, doesn’t it?
I think 4 BR are enough for the average family with 2 kids, and you can easily live with 3 (I grew up with three and it was fine). We now have five, which I love because it means we have one spare room just for books and lying on the couch, but I suppose I could give it up if I had to because we do have a den downstairs that functions the same way. Still, nothing like having a room of one’s own, so to speak, since the rest of my family hardly goes in there. They call it my “man cave.”
Yoss – thanks for the clarification. It’s just that if I see “(street) and (street)” I automatically think you’re talking about an intersection.
An office or a den is really just a bedroom without a bed right? With the exception of the kitchen and bathrooms, you could use any room for almost anything with some creativity.
“How many families need 7 bedrooms nowadays? Maybe it should have been rehabbed into 5 beds at most and the remainder repurposed as dens, offices etc”
I thought an office or den was basically a bedroom without a closet. I’m probably wrong. And if clio is who he claims to be, I kind of doubt he could have gotten nine bedrooms for what he paid for his home. But who knows.
“And if clio is who he claims to be, I kind of doubt he could have gotten nine bedrooms for what he paid for his home. But who knows.”
The property was unlivable and was sold for land value. I put in over 750k to renovate the front and back houses.
This former 2-flat has had an excellent gut rehab conversion to SF. Friends converted a very similar 2-flat in DePaul; I’m amazed to see same few remaining vintage details such as fireplaces, stair placement, entry door configuration, and art glass transom. Originally working-class two-flats with little charm, tiny rooms, and worn-out interiors. Beautiful, but to sell, price be in 2002’s range.
Architect,
On a serious note. Do you have any opinions on the ability to do a real nice renovation of an elevator cabinet. Is that something that could be designed away from site and then shipped? It appears the current elevator interior is not much more than screwed on sheets of laminate. Seems pretty simple. Would you have any recommendations who to contact? Cab is about 3 1/2 by 5 1/2.
New high-end high-rise cab interior panels are usually fabricated in a subcontractor shop with interior finishes to match architect’s specifications and drawings. Cheaper projects use manufacturers’ standard interior panels. Panels on cabs are removable for repair/replacement in most cabs. Interior panels can be replaced altogether for most cabs. Can change appearance of cab quite easily, changing and/or upgrading materials, details, etc. Dimensions need to remain consistent. Call your elevator maintenance contractor, or better yet, original elevator manufacturer if possible, for some recommendations. I’ve no referrals to give.
Architect, do you know of any brand of suitable (and tasteful), interior roll up doors?
Something like this, but on a much smaller scale and not as heavy duty
http://www.garagedoor-virginia.com/image/rollupDoors.jpg
Architect.. much appreciated…