Get a 3-Bedroom Townhouse with a 2-Car Garage for $900K: 849 W. Ohio in River West
This 3-bedroom townhouse in Via Como at 849 W. Ohio in River West came on the market in May 2023.
Built in 2002, Via Como is 34 townhouses with 2-car garages. The picture above is a picture of the general community, not of this particular townhouse.
The listing says this is the largest floor plan in the development.
It also says it wasn’t “lipsticked for sale” but has been remodeled throughout.
There is an office on the main floor flanked by glass walls, ceiling speakers and the security command center of the home.
There’s also a full bath and access to the 2 car garage.
The first floor has the living/dining room along with the kitchen. It has wide plank oak floors, ceiling moldings with nest smoke and climate system and a home speaker system along with individual wi-fi boosters on each level.
The kitchen has natural wood cabinets and an island with seating for 3. It has luxury appliances including Miele, Bosch and Dacor with double ovens, double quartz counter tops, an integrated fridge, a wine fridge and an exhaust fan that vents out.
There’s a balcony off the kitchen with space for a grill.
The third floor has 2 bedrooms, including the primary, and 2 full baths which have double quartz countertops, radiant heat, towel warmers, rain shower heads and body sprays.
The fourth floor has skylights and a bonus room which could be a workout room, an office or another bedroom. It has a powder room and leads to a deck with city views.
The townhouse has central air.
It is near shops, restaurants and public transportation, which the listing says includes:
“The Dawson, La Scarola, Piccolo Sogno, Stax Cafe, Iguana Cafe, The Pearl Club, BLVDier clothing store, Salon 833, Starbucks, and multiple car washes | WalkScore 92 | TransitScore 808 | BikeScore 94 | 12-minute Lyft, 14-minute L ride, or an 18-minute cycle to The Loop | Divvy station around the corner on Milwaukee Ave | 0.2 mi to the Blue Line | The 56/65 bus lines are at the end of the street on Grand Ave and Milwaukee Ave”
It’s also about a 10 minute walk over to Fulton Market.
Originally listed on May 30, 2023 at $950,000, it has been reduced $50,000 to $900,000.
Are the 7% rates hitting the upper bracket properties again like they did last year?
John Grafft at Compass has the listing. See the pictures and floor plan here.
Unit #2W: 3 bedrooms, 3.5 baths, townhouse, 2300 square feet (listing says it’s 2.5 baths but floor plan says otherwise so I’m listing it as 3.5 baths)
- Sold in May 2003 for $484,000
- Originally listed in May 2023 for $950,000
- Reduced
- Currently listed at $900,000
- Assessments of $284 a month (includes exterior maintenance and snow removal)
- Taxes of $14,211
- Central Air
- Fireplace
- Bedroom #1: 14×15 (third floor)
- Bedroom #2: 10×11 (third floor)
- Bedroom #3: 10×10 (main floor)
- Bonus room: 14×13 (fourth floor)
- Living/dining room: 17×26 (second floor)
- Kitchen: 17×13 (second floor)
- Foyer: 6×11 (main floor)
- Laundry: 3×4 (second floor)
- Balcony: 11×3 (second floor)
- Deck: 15×12 (fourth floor)
This is really a 2Br
No Ba on the main living floor
The W/D in the kitchen is an odd choice
Missed a golden marketing opportunity but not mentioning its w/in walking distance to the only place you can get REAL SM tomatoes
Nice that there’s a toilet on the loft/roof level.
I realize that THs aren’t about natural light and the views but on either end of the main floor things are a little bleak.
Spacious living/dining area.
TP shown in pic 23 needs attention.
“walking distance to multiple car washes”.
Now why would one need to walk to a carwash…
“Missed a golden marketing opportunity but not mentioning its w/in walking distance to the only place you can get REAL SM tomatoes”
Where’s that? The Whole Foods in the West Loop? Not sure if they carry the real ones there or not. They used to before Amazon bought them out and got rid of most of the gourmet food. Mostly, they carry California copy cat tomatoes.
“Where’s that? The Whole Foods in the West Loop? Not sure if they carry the real ones there or not. They used to before Amazon bought them out and got rid of most of the gourmet food. Mostly, they carry California copy cat tomatoes.”
D’Amato’s Bakery and Bari foods are in walking distance.
Anyone else wondering about the quick $50k reduction?
Did they not get ANY showings the first week at $950,000 so they decided to cut it quickly? Or did they get agent feedback that it was too expensive for what it is and decided to cut? But scenario #2 doesn’t make much sense because a buyer could always just come in with the $900k offer.
I think the 7.1% rates are really slowing the housing market again. Anything over 7% is a catalyst for buyers to move to the sidelines and wait.
Love the remodel on this unit. The thick quartz countertops really make a difference. Love the primary bathroom finishes. Very modern. Feels like a really nice hotel bathroom.
Kitchen is unique. Haven’t seen one that has the natural wood like this. The natural wood is “in” now but is slowly making its way to Chicago kitchens. NY and LA are quicker to embrace it. I wonder what the buyer response will be?
“This is really a 2Br”
It’s really a 4 bedroom. First floor bedroom has a closet so it qualifies. Top floor doesn’t so it’s a bonus room or family room. But a closet could easily be added along the wall that would give you a fourth bedroom.
“D’Amato’s Bakery and Bari foods are in walking distance.”
Everyone knows that only Eataly has real SM tomatoes
Do you even live in Chicago?
“It’s really a 4 bedroom. First floor bedroom has a closet so it qualifies. Top floor doesn’t so it’s a bonus room or family room. But a closet could easily be added along the wall that would give you a fourth bedroom.”
Its really an 8 bedroom. You can easily add some walls, closets and windows and viola 8 Bedroom
Throw in some LED’s and it would be very sophisticated!
I’ve always had an irrational hatred of this development. Maybe I just miss the Como Inn.
Weirdly, if you look at the map in the listing, it shows this place is at chestnut and dearborn.
” Maybe I just miss the Como Inn.”
Best bread ever
“Everyone knows that only Eataly has real SM tomatoes”
I never said this. But many people believe the San Marzano tomatoes they buy at their local grocery store are the real thing but they are not. Many are grown in California or other areas of Italy.
The San Marzano region has a specific soil which is what makes the tomatoes there have their flavor. They are in high demand, obviously. Farmers in San Marzano say they cannot grow enough to meet demand in Italy, let alone in the United States, Mexico, Australia and the rest of Europe. They will tell you that the tomatoes in the can you see in your store in America are not “real” San Marzano tomatoes. There simply aren’t enough of them grown in San Marzano to end up in every grocery store in America (as they appear to be.) It’s a small region. Small farms.
There are some that may be imported and end up at places like the Eataly or other specialty Italian grocery stores. But you will pay for it. So if you are being charged $20 or $30 a can for the tomatoes, they may be legit. But the $4.99 can at the Mariano’s isn’t it.
Nothing wrong with those tomatoes, but they aren’t actual San Marzanos. You can get a sweet onion at a lot of stores but you can’t get a Vidalia everywhere.
It clearly could be called a 4 bedroom. And it’s definitely a 3-bedroom under every definition of bedrooms in Chicago real estate. It even has a window.
It doesn’t take much to add a built in IKEA wardrobe in that top room if you wanted to. But it’s also a selling point to say there is a family room or fitness room. Not everyone wants or needs 4 bedrooms. Would like to have other options as there is no basement.
“Weirdly, if you look at the map in the listing, it shows this place is at chestnut and dearborn.”
Right? I don’t know what is going on with that. I had to double check the address that it was Via Como even though I knew that it was.
” Maybe I just miss the Como Inn.”
“Best bread ever”
Yikes. It closed 22 years ago.
“I never said this. But many people believe the San Marzano tomatoes they buy at their local grocery store are the real thing but they are not. Many are grown in California or other areas of Italy.”
You said exactly this
You claimed that the DOP certified San Marzano that I purchase at Caputo’s were not “Real” SM and that you could only get “Real” San Marzano’s at Eataly
You are like a 3 year old, grow up already
Embarrassing
“why would one need to walk to a carwash”
Do you want to sit at the carwash for hours while they do the full detail? Or have to get a ride there and back.
I wouldn’t consider it a feature, either, and certainly not enough to put in the listing, but it’s not completely useless to everyone.
“DOP certified San Marzano”
I think the implication has to be that the DOP certifications are fraudulent, including at CostCo.
“I think the implication has to be that the DOP certifications are fraudulent, including at CostCo.”
I’m getting an IASIP vibe
I’m sure there is some fraud wrt labeling, however stating that only Eataly has “REAL” San Marzano tomatoes is even by Sabrina’s standards a huge reach and by inspection completely false.
This one appears to be the prior high sale ($862,500, Sep-22), and is an end unit (Ohio/Feeder ramp side) with windows on the side. Finishes are nowhere close to as nice, tho:
https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/533-N-Peoria-St-60642/home/12565196
I won’t wade into the San Marzano tomato sourcing controversy, but I will admit that it was only in the past year or so that I became aware of the whole Parmigiano “Reggiano” thing, and the importance of getting single source/Italy-only olive oil. But I have of course lorded that knowledge over a handful of people as if I’d known it for decades.
“I’m sure there is some fraud wrt labeling, however stating that only Eataly has “REAL” San Marzano tomatoes is even by Sabrina’s standards a huge reach and by inspection completely false.”
Nope. The farmers themselves said it on Stanley Tucci’s tour of Italy when he went to San Marzano and ate the tomatoes. The farmer there mocked the idea that that tiny region in Italy could EVER produce enough tomatoes to be on every shelf in the United States. It’s not possible. They aren’t the actual San Marzano tomatoes, even if they are from Italy.
Other gourmet grocers could have the real thing, like I said, if you are paying a really high price for them. You don’t get something that is, actually, rare for $4.99 a can.
The Italians have said at least 95% of the “San Marzanos” sold in the United States are fakes. They may be actual San Marzano tomatoes, grown on the plant, but they were not grown in the volcanic soil near Mt Vesuvius, which is where they get their flavor.
Here’s more:
Somewhat unusually, the DOP designation applies only to preserved tomatoes—there’s no such thing as a fresh DOP San Marzano tomato! The tomatoes must be canned either whole or in filets and stored in glass jars or cans; you’ll never see San Marzano purees, passatas, or crushed tomatoes, nor will you find them in paper tetra paks. The tomatoes must be grown in rows outdoors and harvested by hand between the end of July and mid-September. And a maximum of 80% of a farmer’s yield can be used, ensuring that inferior tomatoes are never passed along to the consumer. All of these rules, along with the relatively small area of the growing region, mean that only about 100 tons of San Marzano tomatoes are produced every year—a drop in the bucket compared to the global canned tomato market, which is estimated at around 1.65 million metric tons.
Most of those sold in the US don’t try and disguise that they are fakes. Whole Foods sells a brand that is made in California. But it’s very difficult to actually get a canned version that IS the real deal. Heck, even the Eataly may not carry the real thing. I haven’t been there in several years so I’m not sure what they’re still carrying.
It literally has to have a number on the can.
“The absolute best way to verify that the San Marzano tomatoes you’re buying are legit is to look for two things on the label: the official Italian DOP seal and the seal of the San Marzano consortium. You’ll also see the words “Pomodoro San Marzano dell’Agro Sarnese-Nocerino” and a number issued by the San Marzano consortium. And, unfortunately, if the price seems too good to be true, it probably isn’t. You’ll never see San Marzanos for $2/can (as much as we might wish for it!).”
Most of us have never actually eaten real San Marzano tomatoes. Which is why when we go to Italy we wonder, “why does it taste so much better here?” That’s because you are eating the tomato grown in the volcanic soil.
JohnnyU, I don’t know how you can’t understand that the wall units are “smart” now and have semiconductors in them. I don’t have time to educate you but I do recommend checking into a newer built motel so you can see how it operates. Most of them have them installed as well. Otherwise, maybe check out YouTube tutorials about what semiconductors are, how they work etc.
It’s hard being wrong all the time. You’ve been wrong for years and years about Chicago real estate, prices, Chicago’s economy and on and on. But you don’t have to be wrong about wall units. Just educate yourself.
Most tomatoes in the US are NOT DOP certified. They don’t have the consortium number on them. They don’t have to follow EU regulations.
The tomatoes you are buying at Caputo’s are fake JohnnyU. Nothing wrong with that. Like I said, 99% of us have ONLY eaten the fakes because the real ones are rare. Maybe I will go to the Eataly soon and see if they actually are carrying any of the real ones still.
“I think the implication has to be that the DOP certifications are fraudulent, including at CostCo.”
Of course they are. But not “fraudulent” but not the actual real deal and most don’t know the difference so who is hurt? They likely ARE San Marzano tomatoes. No one disputes that. But unless they are grown in the volcanic soil, they aren’t the real deal.
Also, if anyone thinks there are enough tomatoes in that small region to actually show up on the shelves of Costco, of all places, every single year, then you just answered the question on if they are “real” or not. Come on. There simply isn’t enough even harvested for such a thing. Think about the quantity that Costco has to buy.
Lol.
Also, it’s arrogance of Americans to think that they should have easy access to what is a rare piece of food and that they can just march into their big box retailer and get it.
They’ve been played by the marketing department.
“Most tomatoes in the US are NOT DOP certified. They don’t have the consortium number on them. They don’t have to follow EU regulations.”
Are you drinking already?
No one said this.
But its pretty typical of your style of arguement. Make up shit and lash out
Embarrassing
“JohnnyU, I don’t know how you can’t understand that the wall units are “smart” now and have semiconductors in them. I don’t have time to educate you but I do recommend checking into a newer built motel so you can see how it operates. Most of them have them installed as well. Otherwise, maybe check out YouTube tutorials about what semiconductors are, how they work etc.
It’s hard being wrong all the time. You’ve been wrong for years and years about Chicago real estate, prices, Chicago’s economy and on and on. But you don’t have to be wrong about wall units. Just educate yourself.”
Explain how they are smart? A few simple sentences directly responding to the question Vs drunkenly lashing out will suffice.
The operation is the same as its always been. They have a stat and a starter, temperature exceeds set point, signal is set to start the compressor and fan. Are you trying to argue that the fact it has an electric Vs mechanical switch makes it smart?
What are all of these smart features? a dP on the unit to tell when the coils dirty (PS Window units have these), A VFD and controller? Free cooling mode? Please enlighten us all
Also how about those wall LEDs? Can you enlighten everyone as to how these work?
Yep, totally fake:
https://imgur.com/4d58o0V
(not my pic, and a few years old)
Whole Foods also stocking fake DOP (5th image):
https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/rega-san-marzano-tomatoes-18-oz-b0016bs0fe
$4.79/can.
4th image for this brand:
https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/isola-tomatoes-san-marzano-dop-18-oz-b07dlfytsw
$5.99/can
Just to complete the effort to confirm Sabrina is an idiot and doesn’t know shit from shinola here’s a picture of a #10 can I bought from Caputos – battery charger and soldering equipment included
https://imgur.com/a/gwlpYLu
Pretty clear that it’s got all of the requirements outlined by the village idiot for REAL San Marzano tomatoes
Guessing that an apology won’t be forthcoming and we’ll see more drunken lashing about
Sabrina, this is your last chance to not beclown yourself. You should apologize and admit that you were wrong. Ball is in your court
“ 4th image for this brand:
https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/product/isola-tomatoes-san-marzano-dop-18-oz-b07dlfytsw
$5.99/can”
Obviously we’ve faked all of these images in order to make Sabrina look like a complete idiot
Most people born and raised in Chicago have the humility to admit when they are completely f’d. Let’s see if Sabrina has the intestinal fortitude to admit she was wrong
“Whole Foods also stocking fake DOP (5th image):”
They are all called “DOP”. They aren’t real. I believe the actual farmers. They don’t grow enough of them for them to be on the shelves of every supermarket. They ARE San Marzano tomatoes however.
I looked to see what Costco was doing and I was wrong on them having the real tomatoes. The Kirkland brand made a deal with someone over in Italy to bring the real tomatoes over to the US. BUT, they are more expensive than the others they carry and they don’t carry them in every Costco.
That’s the thing. I always had to go to the Eataly to buy the real San Marzanos. Maybe Whole Foods decided to compete and started stocking some in the neighborhood. I last bought them several years ago and had to go to the Eataly because my Whole Foods didn’t have the real deal. And the Jewel certainly didn’t. None of the supermarkets near me carried them. It would be great if they do now, but I haven’t cooked anything with San Marzanos in years.
Maybe I will go check to see if they carry the real thing now. It would be easier than going all the way to the Eataly to get them. And the Eataly was $10 a can. Might encourage me to actually make something with them again since it is easier to get them.
But most Americans have never tried the real deal. I believe the farmers when they say there aren’t enough of them grown and that most in the US aren’t the real ones. They said that only 5% were real. Sounds about right.
Chicago is a major city so you can get them in some locations here (like the Eataly). One woman on a blog said she moved from Connecticut to Florida and can’t find them anywhere near her. She orders them for $10 a can on Amazon.
“They are all called “DOP”. They aren’t real. I believe the actual farmers. They don’t grow enough of them for them to be on the shelves of every supermarket. They ARE San Marzano tomatoes however.”
So you being the self-proclaimed expert set a criteria. Get shown San Marzano tomatoes that meet the requirement. Refuse to accept the criteria you set and rely on some farmer on a TV show.
Are you like this in real life?
“I looked to see what Costco was doing and I was wrong on them having the real tomatoes. The Kirkland brand made a deal with someone over in Italy to bring the real tomatoes over to the US. BUT, they are more expensive than the others they carry and they don’t carry them in every Costco.
That’s the thing. I always had to go to the Eataly to buy the real San Marzanos. Maybe Whole Foods decided to compete and started stocking some in the neighborhood. I last bought them several years ago and had to go to the Eataly because my Whole Foods didn’t have the real deal. And the Jewel certainly didn’t. None of the supermarkets near me carried them. It would be great if they do now, but I haven’t cooked anything with San Marzanos in years.
Maybe I will go check to see if they carry the real thing now. It would be easier than going all the way to the Eataly to get them. And the Eataly was $10 a can. Might encourage me to actually make something with them again since it is easier to get them.
But most Americans have never tried the real deal. I believe the farmers when they say there aren’t enough of them grown and that most in the US aren’t the real ones. They said that only 5% were real. Sounds about right.
Chicago is a major city so you can get them in some locations here (like the Eataly). One woman on a blog said she moved from Connecticut to Florida and can’t find them anywhere near her. She orders them for $10 a can on Amazon.
So now the ultimate authority in determining REAL San Marzano’s is Sabrina, a farmer on a TV show and some woman with a blog…
You can get real San Marzano’s a Caputo’s
“BUT, they are more expensive than the others they carry and they don’t carry them in every Costco.”
$10.99 for 3 28oz (yes, 28, not 18 like the two WF examples) cans earlier this year.
But they usually get them in once a year, and when they’re gone, they’re gone.
I don’t know why I am invested in this, but I went to several groceries to see if they have San Marzano tomatoes.
WFM Streeterville has more than one variety of DOP San Marzano. Mariano’s LSE had at least one DOP San Marzano available with or without basil. Target State St had Cento brand ‘Palmadoro San Marzano’ from Italy, but without DOP mention. Jewel on Canal did not have Italian San Marzano tomatoes, only San Marzano-style.
Personally, I buy no salt added 365 or no salt added Glen Muir fire roasted.
Come for the Real Estate stay for the Tomato argument
“They are all called “DOP”. They aren’t real.”
They are not all called DOP.
Cento, for example, is not labeled DOP:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cento-San-Marzano-Peeled-Tomatoes-28-Oz/15716659
notwithstanding the facat at you can source trace the tomatoes to the correct region: Agro Sarnese-Nocerino.
I would assume that there is some part of Cento’s production process that does not mean the DOP standard–perhaps they use too high a percentage of the fruit? I dunno.
So, who is faking the DOP labeling and control numbers on the Isola tomatoes? One of the Nitti family? That’s a serious accusation.
Who is faking the DOP labeling and control numbers on the Rega tomatoes?
The Co-op itself??
https://www.agriconserverega.it/en/rega-pomodoro/
That’s an even more serious accusation.
btw, I can have WF delivery–thru amazon–of 28 oz cans of Rega DOP San Marzanos *this evening* for $4.79 per can. And they’re 100% real DOP San Marzano tomatoes.
Or I can pick them up from Sur La Table (also thru Amazon) for $8/can.
“btw, I can have WF delivery–thru amazon–of 28 oz cans of Rega DOP San Marzanos *this evening* for $4.79 per can. And they’re 100% real DOP San Marzano tomatoes.”
Those aren’t the ones everyone wants. Lol. I guess people have their preferences for brands and it’s not rega.
See these: https://www.amazon.com/Sclafani-San-Marzano-Tomatoes-PACK/dp/B06VX7M3ZP
“WFM Streeterville has more than one variety of DOP San Marzano. Mariano’s LSE had at least one DOP San Marzano available with or without basil. Target State St had Cento brand ‘Palmadoro San Marzano’ from Italy, but without DOP mention. Jewel on Canal did not have Italian San Marzano tomatoes, only San Marzano-style.”
Wow- thanks for the update Lauren. This is helpful. I wonder if WF in Streeterville has them because of the neighborhood (Eataly not far away etc.) I bet the River North WF has them too for that reason.
The Cento brand had to change its label, I think. But plenty of people like the Centos.
I love the Glen Muir fire roasted too. I haven’t bought the San Marzanos in years. But now that you’ve given me the lowdown, maybe I will get some. They are cheaper now than at the Eataly.
“But they usually get them in once a year, and when they’re gone, they’re gone.”
Not every store gets them either, apparently.
“Those aren’t the ones everyone wants.”
Everyone wants the US private label “brand”? And the one from Connecticut, not the Isola from the Chicago company?
People prefer that to the tomatoes packed by the co-op *owned by the farmers*???
What happened to trusting the farmers?
San Marzano or not, these are some of the best canned tomatoes. you can usually get them at Marianos or other grocery stores.
https://www.amazon.com/Bianco-DiNapoli-California-Organic-Tomatoes/dp/B01CUTWKL0/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Bianco+DiNapoli&qid=1686324838&sr=8-1
Also, if sclafani is a must for some reason, it is trivially easy to find them for $6/can, with free shipping if you hit the minimum.
Strangely, the first place I found is located in Florida. Were I *in* Florida, I could pick them up in store for $6/can, along with fresh pasta, a bottle of wine, and even get my knives sharpened.
But Florida is a big state, so I’m sure it was somewhere else in Florida that they were impossible to find.
[Bianco DiNapoli]
Top rated by Wirecutter/NYT!! In both 2020 and Dec-22:
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-canned-tomatoes/
“I love the Glen Muir fire roasted too. I haven’t bought the San Marzanos in years. But now that you’ve given me the lowdown, maybe I will get some. They are cheaper now than at the Eataly.”
How will you tell if they are REAL San Marzano tomatoes? Going to reach out to the farmers in Italy or some woman who runs a blog?
“Top rated by Wirecutter/NYT!! In both 2020 and Dec-22:”
Most of these are a completely different product. “Best canned tomatoes” doesn’t mean “best san marzano canned tomatoes.” In fact, most on this list aren’t San Marzanos (real or otherwise) but are different tomatoes. Nothing wrong with that. Not everyone wants San Marzano tomatoes.
FYI – Caputo’s has #10 cans of REAL San Marzano tomatoes for $12.99/can
They’re DOP and literally has a number on the can!
From the article:
“San Marzano tomatoes, which are prized for their mellow flavor, can be grown anywhere.
“Certain San Marzano tomatoes are certified DOP, which guarantees that they’ve been grown, processed, and canned in a specific geographical zone in Italy.
“As our tests show, neither term is necessarily an indicator of flavor or quality.”
“I love the Glen Muir fire roasted too. I haven’t bought the San Marzanos in years. But now that you’ve given me the lowdown, maybe I will get some. They are cheaper now than at the Eataly.”
How do you know they are cheaper?
You havent been to “the Eataly” in years and Lauren didnt say anything about price
Yes, San Marzanos can be grown anywhere, as we have established. Most found on American shelves are grown in California. Nothing wrong with that.
But not all of these in the article are San Marzanos are they? And I’m not talking about DOP or otherwise. The headline just says the “best canned tomatoes.”
It’s fine to fetishize any given product if that’s what makes one happy.
I was just replying to marco’s note.