Live in Historic Old Edgebrook in a Vintage Queen Anne: 6239 N. Lundy
This 4-bedroom Queen Anne at 6239 N. Lundy in Old Edgebrook is located in the middle of a forest preserve- literally.
The Old Edgebrook historic district was created in 1894 and designed to be houses of various styles. It was designated a landmark district in 1988.
There is only one road in to the neighborhood and one road out.
There are walking paths that wind through the neighborhood as those trekking through the forest preserve can just keep on with their hike.
This Queen Anne was built in 1896. It still has many of its vintage features including its oak staircase, lead and stained glass and pocket doors.
It has a front turret and a double parlor.
There is a 3-car garage and central air.
The houses in the district are on larger lots and this one is on a 108x163x65x158 lot.
It has been reduced $49,000.
Irene Yungerman at Baird and Warner has the listing. See the pictures here.
6239 N. Lundy: 4 bedrooms, 3 baths, 3 car garage, 3510 square feet
- Sold in March 1986
- Sold in December 1989 for $984,000
- Originally listed in February 2010 for $998,000
- Reduced in May 2010
- Currently listed for $949,000
- Taxes of $12,800
- Central Air
- Bedroom #1: 15×14 (second floor)
- Bedroom #2: 17×12 (second floor)
- Bedroom #3: 13×12 (second floor)
- Bedroom #4: 14×14 (third floor)
I love this neighborhood. History says that Edgebrook was an old railroad town and Old Edgebrook was the enclave where the management lived. There are only a handful of homes in this neighborhood and you can access the area only off central road. The neighborhood is surrounded by forest preserve and a golf course. It’s pretty much car only to get anywhere except that you can commute to work via the Metra. You can access the north branch trail across Devon and ride your bike all the way to the Botanic Gardens.
The Pucinski family home used to be in the neighborhood until it burned down and unfortunately took the life of his son. The house has since been torn down and is now a vacant lot next to the sidewalk through the forest preserve that leads to the Metra.
As a side note, I was riding my bike on that sidewalk a few months ago and I saw what must have been a 30 point buck just chillin out, eating some leaves, not a fear in the world. It’s a cool area over there, the neighborhood it’s more akin to living in Long Grove or something yet still being in the city and close enough to downtown. Very very pricey.
gorgeous. I Want.
When I think of $1MM homes its homes and locations like this. The only thing I don’t like about this place is the name of the park.
Nice neighborhood, but seems very overpriced. Larger and more modern homes within walking distance (though not in the forest preserve) are closing in the low to mid $700s.
The Dec-89 CS Index value was 68.91. The $984 the paid in 98 is $1,732,410 in cpi-adjusted 2010 dollars.
Does this place have $750k in deferred maintenance, or did they over pay in ’89?
What a cool setting!!! How long would it take to get downtown from here? The only reason I bring this up is because if it takes more than 30 minutes, you are far away enough that you should consider moving to one of the suburbs for a cheaper/nicer house (ie river forest, hinsdale, western springs, nice areas of evanston).
Both. and a third option – million dollars homes tended to not appreciate much during that time period. a lawyer is my office sold her parent’s million dollar estate in cook county in 05 or 06 and it sold for not much more than the purchase price from the 1980’s. that’s just my anedotal example, but those who bought million dollar homes during the boom thought they would appreciate to $2,000,000; but the fact is that a million dollar home is exacty that, a million dollar home. Too many $600k homes became million dollar homes during the boom yet the million dollar homes stayed a million dollars. A million is a lot of money you know.
“anon (tfo) on October 7th, 2010 at 10:35 am
The Dec-89 CS Index value was 68.91. The $984 the paid in 98 is $1,732,410 in cpi-adjusted 2010 dollars.
Does this place have $750k in deferred maintenance, or did they over pay in ‘89?”
this is the place me and DZ talk about all the time.
it wifeys dream home.
and your about a 2 minute drive to 94 and you can walk to starbucks, happy foods, a few great restaurants, a great bike shop, an awesome ice cream shop, i irish pub with good food. ALL WALKING DISTANCE. and metra is a 2 block walk.
“this is the place me and DZ talk about all the time.”
6203 Lundy is place I bring up. The location seems better than 6239 but I haven’t driven through there in a while.
“Both.”
If it has even $100k in deferred maintenance, it isn’t worth this much. (of course, that was just a joke for JMM)
I have no doubt they overpaid, and the listing indicates they put a bunch of money into it, but, based on CPI, if they sell for ask, they will have “lost” $400k in 1989 dollars, plus their cost of improvements, which is a ton.
“those who bought million dollar homes during the boom thought they would appreciate to $2,000,000”
Not the people I know who bought them to live in them, but there certainly were a lot of people with that attitude. 7-figures is a big psycho-barrier.
The edgebrook train to/from Union station is something like 24 minutes IIRC; I didn’t double check it.
“clio on October 7th, 2010 at 10:35 am
What a cool setting!!! How long would it take to get downtown from here? The only reason I bring this up is because if it takes more than 30 minutes, you are far away enough that you should consider moving to one of the suburbs for a cheaper/nicer house (ie river forest, hinsdale, western springs, nice areas of evanston).”
“The edgebrook train to/from Union station is something like 24 minutes IIRC”
If I worked closer to union station I’d think really seriously about this neighborhood. Edgebrook schools as well.
I think I’m lazier than Groove, or shorter legs as if that were possible, but walkability is just ok here, especially when thinking about walking with a recalcitrant toddler (I love you little guy, if future little DZ stumbles on this thread, but you do have a mind of your own).
“The houses in the district are on larger lots and this one is on a 108×163×65×158 lot.”
Ok. Stupid question but I could not find it on google. Why does the lot dimension have 4 numbers? Is this simply a way of showing the area of an irregularly sized lot?
“The edgebrook train to/from Union station is something like 24 minutes IIRC; I didn’t double check it.”
thanks groove for the infor. that is the same amount of time for the express train from hinsdale. Even so, this location is unique and really cool. I wonder why more people haven’t bought up these houses, torn them down and built mansions (not that I’m advocating that) but it seems that the houses that are there are really ole (and most don’t seem that historically significant). Any thoughts??
Ok. That was a really stupid question. I found the answer. I feel dumb now.
clio: “I wonder why more people haven’t bought up these houses, torn them down and built mansions”
From the post:
“The Old Edgebrook historic district was created in 1894 and designed to be houses of various styles. It was designated a landmark district in 1988.”
Perfect example of why I mock your reading comp.
“(not that I’m advocating that) but it seems that the houses that are there are really ole (and most don’t seem that historically significant). Any thoughts??”
zoning isnt corrupt over here, plus go one mile north and lincolnwood had the market for tear down and build huge mcmansions. a quick drive around there and any person can tell which town had corrupt zoning going on.
this area of chicago (ward) was blessed with a decent alderman and didnt sell off zoning rights for cash/contributions/get his wife a job during the bubble.
“Perfect example of why I mock your reading comp.”
mock mine cause i didnt even read that either and never knew about it, given i assumed so but there is a brick home circa 1960 there that i question the historicalness
Sorry but I hate this place, antiquated and difficult room dimensions that would just not work for me.
I will never understand what everyone’s infatuation with living in an old haunted looking house is, but to each their own I guess
yeah – sorry about the historical designation thing – but I feel the same as groove. some of those houses don’t look very historically significant. But I thought of another question – what if one of the houses in a historic district burned down? I am assuming that you could rebuild but it would have to be in the character of the neighborhood. With so many different housing styles in this community, could you build almost anything you wanted?
“6203 Lundy is place I bring up.”
DZ oooppppss, again my reading (and writing) comprehension is bad.
but 6203 is on the corner of the inlet street which would see all the traffic in and out of here (not that there is a lot of traffic) given i like 6203 better but the location to me is worse (relative to the area)
“I am assuming that you could rebuild but it would have to be in the character of the neighborhood. ”
Depends on the city’s historic district rules and whether the place actually burns to the ground (eg, if it’s brick and the facade survives, you’re likely stuck with the facade). Usually, you’re going to be able to build anything that zoning/building code allow.
“6203 is on the corner of the inlet street which would see all the traffic in and out of here (not that there is a lot of traffic) given i like 6203 better but the location to me is worse (relative to the area)”
As you say, I don’t think there’s really much traffic. They also have it fenced off. I think it’s the kinda corner lot I can get behind. Not quite as secluded as your house w/o a front street.
“6203 better but the location to me is worse (relative to the area”
oh and plus 6203’s kitchen opens to its dining room, a huge no no in queen anne’s .
Anon, hit it on the head with the historical thang, and that 60’s brick place wouldnt matter as the historicalness wasnt in place until 1988.
side note, why would you wan to tear down a home that has performed greatly for over 100 years when as we see the recent homes built cant last 2 years without major problems. give me a updated old home any day of the week.
“side note, why would you wan to tear down a home that has performed greatly for over 100 years when as we see the recent homes built cant last 2 years without major problems. give me a updated old home any day of the week.”
It’s a real pita to add home automation (or ac, or enough electric, or updated plumbing) to an old house. Don’t ask how I know.
i wonder if flooding is an issue over here cause i know i can never play a full 18 as the 1st 2nd and 18th hole are always underwater.
“It’s a real pita to add home automation (or ac, or enough electric, or updated plumbing) to an old house. Don’t ask how I know”
good call.
“i wonder if flooding is an issue over here cause i know i can never play a full 18 as the 1st 2nd and 18th hole are always underwater.”
This one notes “overhead sewer”, and 6203 has an unfinished basement, so I’d bet they have/have had sewer back-up issues.
The ajacent wooded area to the east is always flooded out. I saw ducks swimming in it a few weeks ago. Its practically a swamp.
Bn The neighbor with the green house in the hood has a rooster as a pet. I heard him and I saw a rooster and asked why they had a rooster and they said it was a pet. I bike through this neighborhood quite regularly on my way to the north branch trail.
6203!!! Oh my god. LOVE it! That kitchen wall shouldn’t be too difficult to put back up. Such a pity they removed it though, I bet there were gorgeous old pocket doors between the kitchen/dining. Where is Laura to drool over this?
Wow…6203 is pretty nice. It’s just too bad it’s clad in aluminum/vinyl/steel siding…
“I saw a rooster and asked why they had a rooster and they said it was a pet.”
Was it named Big Red?
“What a cool setting!!! How long would it take to get downtown from here? The only reason I bring this up is because if it takes more than 30 minutes, you are far away enough that you should consider moving to one of the suburbs for a cheaper/nicer house (ie river forest, hinsdale, western springs, nice areas of evanston).”
Shit I live at Addison and the Lake and it takes me 30 minutes to get downtown, better move to the burbs!
“it takes me 30 minutes to get downtown, better move to the burbs!”
but you just came from there last year, dont tell me you miss it already
the burbs are fricking terrible please don’t even mention that crap
I had the pleasure of dining in downtown naperville over the weekend and let me tell you, the “naperville versions” of the chicago restaurants are terrible. Awful service coupled with somehow worse (yet the same) food at the same prices = faildinner
“the “naperville versions” of the chicago restaurants are terrible. Awful service coupled with somehow worse (yet the same) food at the same prices = faildinner”
You drove all the way to N’ville to eat at Potbelly?
no.. Hugo’s
We’re neighbors Barry. Pretty much an ideal location if you ask me.
What do you think of the townhomes on Pine Grove just across from Brompton? There are 2 for sale and that is a ton of space and in the Nettlehorst district… it’s just that they’re pretty ugly IMO. Still.
“We’re neighbors Barry. Pretty much an ideal location if you ask me.
What do you think of the townhomes on Pine Grove just across from Brompton? There are 2 for sale and that is a ton of space and in the Nettlehorst district… it’s just that they’re pretty ugly IMO. Still.”
Hi-diddly-ho, neighborino! I walked past them the other day and agree that they completely lack in curb appeal, but that’s not that big of a strike to me. Other than that, haven’t looked at the any of the listings or know anything about them otherwise, sorry!
clio,
a lot of the people who live over here are well paid city workers…fire chiefs,boss cops,city managers etc,and moving to the suburbs isn’t an option due to residency rules.
There’s a turret in the garage!
i noticed that,i’m suprised it doesn’t have a moat,too.
The owner of the sears catalog norwood house is somebody with a great job and probably a great pension at the CPD.
There are a couple of retired firefighters in my neighborhood and they own some of the nicest homes. One lucky pension lottery winner parks his boat named “Put It Out” all summer long on grace street (which is one of the few entrances to the ‘hood). I am hundreds of other residents see it every day during the summer as we enter the neighborhood. All the neighbors comment on what an ass you have to be to keep a boat on the street all summer long in Chicago.
“jw on October 7th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
clio,
a lot of the people who live over here are well paid city workers…fire chiefs,boss cops,city managers etc,and moving to the suburbs isn’t an option due to residency rules.”
thanks jw for the information – that makes a lot of sense.
thanks hd – I am and idiot and didn’t realize that you had to live in Chicago to be a in the CPD, CFD. Do you have to live in the city to be a teacher in the CPS? and what is the purpose of all of these residency rules?
good question,i dont think teachers have to live in the city.pretty much everyone else does.the residency thing goes back to daley#1. these folks are very well paid with recession proof jobs and daley wants to get the NW&SW side property tax $$ from them.
CPS teachers have to live in the city also
You have to keep that rule in context of what was happening during Daley 1. Residents started fleeing urban neighborhoods in Chicago in the late 1940’s to early 1950’s as GIs returned from WWII and moved to tract housing in the, at the time, outer suburbs, which roughly corresponds to the time the interstate was built. Entire neighborhoods of the city were being gutted and the residents were being replaced with new, lower class residents. The riots of 1968 were the turning point and those who hadn’t left quickly fled.
In some areas, the residents with jobs stayed and the residents who were too poor to move (or too obstinate) stayed. For example Old Irving Park became an entire neigbhrohood of run down shacks, slop houses and old people. Logan square was much of the same. My great grandparents remained in Logan until the mid-90’s when they passed away, long after their children moved to the suburbs. Even Roscoe Village / Lakeview / Lincoln Park had the ‘hillbilly’ image (rightly or wrongly) that anon(tfo) got censored for mentioning once a long time ago. You still see remnants of this today in neighborhoods where there are new million dollar brick homes next door to an older house, usually with a pine tree or two in the front yard, with the old nasty gray siding, and residents that are so old you never see them. If you keep your eye out you will see them. They are the people who didn’t leave for the suburbs in teh 40’s and 50’s and the neighborhoods looked like that for many years until the gentrification that started in LP in the 70’s, LV in the 80’s, WP/bucktown in the 90’s and Logan/Old Irving in the 2000’s. Hizzonor created that rule to try and prevent residents from leaving for Orland or Mt. Prospect and consequently, the city workers who were forced to stay moved to the out edges of the city limits. the pucinski family home was literally as far as the edge as you could g; cross Devon Ave and it became Niles. Beverly, Edison Park, Hedgewisch, west rogers park, Norwood, Edgebrook, Wildwood, Mt. Greenwood, all became places for city workers who wanted to flee the city but couldn’t.
Over time of course some of these neighborhods have changed and now are more exclusive than they were previously but they are still nicer areas, while some of the gutted areas like Austin, Lawndale, etc, have never recovered. There is a retiree who rents in my building and it’s interesting to hear her stories of growing up in Roseland before it was gutted and all the residents fled in literally just a matter of years; now she lives near me and has never returned to the southside of her childhood, which is completely unrecognizable to her today.
“#jw on October 7th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
good question,i dont think teachers have to live in the city.pretty much everyone else does.the residency thing goes back to daley#1. these folks are very well paid with recession proof jobs and daley wants to get the NW&SW side property tax $$ from them.”
Which again, explains why a Queen Anne in the far NW corner of Chicago sold for nearly a millions dollars in 1989 and has remained nice and beautiful all these years.
Yes as others noted CPS teachers are required to be residents. I think that it is a fair rule. If their money is going from the city tax revenue into their pockets why should it not be pumped back into the city? It also stabilized some neighborhoods. Although many live in pockets others are scattered across the whole city adding an extra layer of security.
Growing up in Edison Park my whole street was cops/fire/teachers. It was safe, quiet, dull, and the lawns were well kept.
Can you blame those folks from fleeing bad areas to live in better areas of the city.? I say no! The Daley Sr. rule just kept them from moving further out to the distant burbs chasing a better life for their kids.
The joke is that if you are a cop or fireman in Kenilworth, Glencoe, or Lake Forest I’d bet that the residents would be offended if one of them were to actually live in their hood.
Its unAmerican to suggest restrictions on where someone can live. While your argument makes economic sense for the city, it infringes on these people’s individual liberties and it’s not right.
Maybe instead if our city’s government actually focused it’s attention on making the city a desirable place to live in for all residents, then things would improve.
You should ask yourself jp3chicago why other areas don’t have or need these residency requirements and it will become abundantly clear.
good post HD.spot on
“thanks hd – I am and idiot and didn’t realize that you had to live in Chicago to be a in the CPD, CFD. Do you have to live in the city to be a teacher in the CPS? and what is the purpose of all of these residency rules?”
Librarians who work at the Chicago Public Library also have to live within the city limits. There are a whole host of city jobs where you have to live in the city.
“Its unAmerican to suggest restrictions on where someone can live. While your argument makes economic sense for the city, it infringes on these people’s individual liberties and it’s not right.”
I feel for the people it was originally thrust upon, and somewhat feel for current Chicago employees, but it’s not like it’s a secret that people didn’t know about going in. Maybe we can abolish residency requirements for politicians as well? I sure look forward to somebody with more money than sense from another state buying my local election!
“Its unAmerican to suggest restrictions on where someone can live. While your argument makes economic sense for the city, it infringes on these people’s individual liberties and it’s not right.”
So is that people have a right to a job working for the city? Or is that a liberty?
Although this is an incredibly unique neighborhood, the fact that its quality and property values are driven in large part by residency requirements for certain jobs makes it like approximately a billion other neighborhoods in the U.S.
Good neighborhoods like these are not “unAmerican.” (The pensions that enable the street-side boats, may be, but that’s another subject.)
“So is that people have a right to a job working for the city? Or is that a liberty?”
You shouldn’t tie where someone lives as a requirement to perform their job function or requirement to hold it. Their area of residence has no impact on their ability to perform their job functions.
Just because it isn’t one of the officially recognized illegal discrimination forms (ie: race, religion, etc) doesn’t make it right.
“Maybe we can abolish residency requirements for politicians as well?”
You probably could but I doubt you’d have many winning elections. This might be one logical exception though as they are supposed to be representatives of the people of a geographic area. You can’t properly represent people of a certain geographic area if you don’t reside there.
I fail to see the issue Bob as many municipalities across our great “free” country have these rules. There is no one forcing a new police, fire or CPS teacher to join the workforce in Chicago. They do so out of free will with certain crystal clear strings attached. I also believe that the system should reward and favor individuals that want to be a part of the community that they reside in 24/7.
Does that also mean that an airline can not have a requirement in place that an individual must be available on XX minutes notice and obviously live close enough to O’Hare or Midway to make that happen? sounds like their rights are being infringed on as well.
“sounds like their rights are being infringed on as well.”
No they aren’t. The difference is this could potentially interfere with them performing their job function and its not a geographic/municipal limitation. If they want to live far enough away but have the means to get their expeditiously (ie: private chopper) then that’s fine.
“I fail to see the issue Bob as many municipalities across our great “free” country have these rules. ”
Just because everyone else is doing it doesn’t make it right.
“I also believe that the system should reward and favor individuals that want to be a part of the community that they reside in 24/7. ”
Yeah I bet those CPD that live in Edison Park and patrol in East Garfield Park really feel a part of that “community”. Give me a break.
“You shouldn’t tie where someone lives as a requirement to perform their job function or requirement to hold it. Their area of residence has no impact on their ability to perform their job functions.”
Who shouldn’t? Municipalities only, or does this apply to private employers as well?
hd
now that you mention it,Old Irving did used to have some dumpy areas,my aunt used to live on 3600 on tripp right behind Schurz HS,back in the seventies,and there were some pretty run-down homes there.
“Who shouldn’t? Municipalities only, or does this apply to private employers as well?”
Most people don’t see or understand the distinction– government only.
If Daley didn’t have the residency requirement for city workers, the non-ethnic/non-immigrant white population would have disappeared from Chicago’s middle-class (non Green Zone) neighborhoods years ago. If next mayor allows suburban residency for teachers, cops, firemen, and mid-level administrators, many if not most city workers would leave Chicago for suburbs. I read the Second City Cop blog regularly; cops regular bemoan the residency requirement. Despite the griping by employees, that residency requirement is one of the best city policies in place from “blue-collar/white-collar middle-income” neighborhood stability viewpoint.
Regarding Old Edgebrook location of this house, we looked at several OE houses a decade ago. First of all, the houses always had several fatal flaws, whether poor floor plan, need for total rehab, or less desirable adjoining houses. Secondly, location in forest preserve puts these residents at #1 risk for mosquito/tick-related diseases of West Nile and Lyme. If you thought mosquitos were bad this summer, imagine being surrounded by woods, standing water, and overcrowded deer preserve. I guess you can enjoy your woodsy view from the comfort of your house interior, but your kids can’t really play outside without an insect-repellant sheep-dip.
Bob sometimes you just miss the point entirely while trying to sound important and intelligent. While you are correct that the cop who patrols the ghetto does not necessecarialy feel a part of that community it was not the point. The point being made was that they are still living somewhere in the Chicago city limits and are a strong influence on that community! If there was no residency requirement then they would be taking that stability and income to another community.
Architect, mosqiutos were everywhere this summer. Hard to avoid them. Same could be said for any neighborhood with woods and trees. Imagine living in long grove or kildeer.
“The point being made was that they are still living somewhere in the Chicago city limits and are a strong influence on that community!”
I am a libertarian and against statist views such as yours. If you need to resort to the “its better for the city so it’s necessary to deprive them of their housing options” I’ve already won. Its a very unAmerican way to try to preserve these pockets of decency in the city. If they want to live elsewhere let them.
They are not being deprived of anything. They WILLINGLY took a job that has a policy in place setting a residency expectation. While I appreciate many lib policies and theories I fail to understand how you suggest that they have been deprived.
They also are paid entirely by TAXES and the tax benefit of having them live in the same tax municipality is a fair tradeoff for their employer “aka local government”
If they feel deprived then go work for the Cook County Sheriff, private security company, or many other law enforcement agencies that could care less where they live.
I am small business owner and employ several people. While there is some slight benefit for my business to have them scattered around the city I do not have a “residency requirement” that makes the individual live in the territory they cover. The tradeoff is that they can live anywhere they want as long as they are committed to the extra drive time it will require to serve their customers.
As a result four of my five employees choose to live downtown…..
“If they want to live elsewhere let them.”
They can. They can quit their job and move. Or do you think they are entitled to keep their job forever, no matter what they do?
Nov 29, 2010 Price Changed $899,000 — MRED #07448459
Nov 29, 2010 Relisted (Reactivated) — — MRED #07448459
Oct 14, 2010 Delisted (Temporarily Off-Market) — — MRED #07448459
May 26, 2010 Price Changed $949,000 — MRED #07448459
Feb 20, 2010 Listed (New) $998,000 — MRED #07448459
6203 Lundy sold for $765K. Seems like an attractive price to me. 6239 still listed at $899K.
shoot if i knew it would go for 765 i might have…….yeah who am i kidding.
that sale must sting to 6239 peeps.
Yeah, I like a lot about this location, don’t ultimately want to live there, but this price made me go hmmmm.
Seems like it would have been better to lower list a bit on 6203. It’s a full 20 percent off list. Why not go down 5 or 8 percent and see if you get more interest?
I love both lundy houses, both way out of my entrance fee (price range) and way out of my level of upkeep (cost wise). the groove family would need the lotto digits to come in to afford the upkeep on a old wooden Victorian.
now,
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/6200-N-Mandell-Ave-60646/home/13511264
on the other hand would be on my radar if was 399 and i bid/offered the standard 10% off of that.
also DZ, if you like this area check out “true” riverwoods for a grander version of this (minus the city address).
crazy homes and privacy out there if not by the golf course
$859,000.