Rent Versus Buy: What Makes Sense? Vintage in the Gold Coast

We’ve chattered several times about the discrepancies between renting versus buying (that basically it’s much cheaper to rent many properties than it is to buy them.)

Such is the case with this vintage 2-bedroom gold coast unit that is on Craigslist.

Check out the “for sale” Craigslist ad here.

Check out the “rental” Craigslist ad here.

Vintage unit at State and Division: 2 bedrooms, 2.5 bath, 2000 square feet

  • Can buy it for $799,000
  • OR rent it for $3500 (or maybe $2600– it’s unclear in the ad)
  • Assessments of $1700 a month
  • Washer/Dryer in the unit
  • No parking
  • SP Suites has the listing

We Love Big Patios: Old Town Townhouse at 1616 N. Larrabee

We love townhouses with actual outdoor space.

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This 2-bedroom townhouse at 1616 N. Larrabee, built in 1985, has two private patios, including one that is 900 square feet.

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Eileen Brennan at Prudential Preferred has the listing. See more pictures and the virtual tour here.

Open house on February 8 from 2-4 pm.

1616 N. Larrabee: 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1500 square feet

  • Sold in June 1992 for $240,000
  • Sold in October 1999 for $378,000
  • Sold in April 2004 for $505,000
  • Originally listed in September 2008 for $649,000
  • Reduced several times
  • Currently listed at $609,000
  • No assessment
  • Taxes of $7,360
  • 900 square foot patio
  • 1 car garage
  • Central Air

Lakeview Penthouse Reduced $85,900: 1735 W. Diversey

We last chattered about this 3-bedroom penthouse with a 90-foot wrap-around deck at 1735 W. Diversey in Lakeview (or is it Lincoln Park?) in July 2008.

See our prior chatter and pictures here.

It is still on the market and has been reduced at total of $85,900 since the fall of November 2007.

It’s also priced $27,000 under its 2006 selling price (if you include the parking).

Unit #615: 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1715 square feet

  • Sold in June 2000 for $368,000
  • Sold in April 2002 for $395,000
  • Sold in July 2006 for $492,000
  • Listed for $530,900 in the fall of 2007
  • Reduced
  • Listed in November 2007 for $515,900
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in July 2008 for $490,000 plus $20,000 for parking
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed for $445,000 plus $20,000 for parking
  • Taxes of $7215
  • Assessments of $490 a month
  • Fireplace
  • Central Air
  • Lori Blackwell at Koenig & Strey has the listing. See the listing and more pictures here.

Gut Rehabbed Vintage Greystone Reduced $46K: 3816 N. Fremont in Lakeview

We last chattered about this 3-bedroom vintage duplex down at 3816 N. Fremont in Lakeview in July 2008.

At the time, the sellers were trying to sell after owning the property less than a year.

It’s now been on and off the market for nearly a year. It was recently re-listed and has now been reduced $46,000 since February 2008.

See the pictures and our chatter here.

Here’s the history again:

Unit #1: 3 bedrooms, 3 baths

  • Sold in June 2007 for $717,500
  • Originally listed in February 2008 for $775,000
  • Reduced several times
  • Was listed in July 2008 for $738,900 (parking included)
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed at $729,000 (parking included)
  • Assessments of $154 a month
  • Taxes are “new”
  • Joe Green at Coldwell Banker has the listing. See the listing and the pictures here.

The Affordable Vintage Uptown 1-Bedroom: 918 W. Winona

I get lots of requests for posts on “affordable” properties- especially on the north side.

This vintage 1-bedroom condo at 918 W. Winona in Uptown is priced under $200,000.

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There is no square footage listed but the room sizes are generous:

  • Living room: 20×14
  • Kitchen: 18×10
  • Bedroom: 14×12
  • Foyer: 13×5

However, it doesn’t have the bells and whistles many buyers would like these days: no central air, no in-unit washer/dryer and no parking.

Is this an affordable alternative to renting?

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Donna Plank at Baird and Warner has the listing. See the listing and more pictures here.

Unit #401: 1 bedroom, 1 bath

  • Sold in March 1995 for $27,000
  • Sold in September 2003 for $134,000
  • Currently listed for $150,000
  • Assessments of $352 a month
  • Taxes of $1818
  • OR you can rent it for $1200 a month
  • No central air
  • No in-unit laundry
  • No parking – but available for $125-$150
  • Elevator building

Developer Cuts Price $60K at 150 W. Superior in River North

We last chattered about 150 W. Superior in River North all the way back in November 2007.

At that time, the developer was offering a special “discount” of 7% on select units in the  54-unit boutique building. 

Around 20 remained to be sold from the developer even though closings began in 2006.

See the prior chatter and pictures here.

Back in November 2007, Michelle from Maher Partners, LLC, which was handling sales in 2007, was kind enough to chime in on Crib Chatter with some details about the 7% discount.

“And as far as the current incentives “messing” with any re sale in the building…I think everyone understands that when you get into a project early you get a bit of a discount. Although this building had no pre-sale requirement and they broke ground the same time they started sales, there were still some discounts given.”

“Sure, people purchasing SELECT UNITS in the building today will save and get a great deal. However, everyone will win down the road as this is a VERY special building with very unique units and features. It’s not the usual boutique highrise and every owner will stand to gain down the road when the market stabalizes and a normal level of appreciation is in place. This building will always stand out amongst all the other vanilla boxes out there.”

“And just to be clear, the 7% is NOT on every unit. Only a select few on those contracts signed prior to 12/31/07 will recieve this. And to be clear, there are less than 20 available for sale.”

A week later she updated her comments with this (please be kind – gentle?- in your posts about her comments as it was a different real estate world in Nov 2007):

“And you are correct, it’s certainly a different market we find ourselves in today. However, most seasoned real estate professionals have been through this type of market before and know there is light at the end of the tunnel!”

“Our new sales center is located at 730 N LaSalle and we have tremendous traffic which has certainly helped reduce the number of remaining units in the building.”

“And I’m happy to report that as of today, there are only 16 remaining! The 7% off (on select units) will be offered until 1/31/08. So for those of you in the market for something different..you’d better hurry!”

Two of the units that we chattered about in November 2007 are still on the market.

The developer has reduced the price by $60,000 on Unit #702 and the listing now says, “Developer says lets SELL IT!”

The listing also says it’s reduced by $75,000- but I have it reduced by $60,000 from 2007.

Here’s its history:

Unit #702: 2 bedroom, 2 bath, 1511 square feet, duplex unit

  • Was listed in November 2007 for $760,000 plus the $45,000 for parking
  • With the 7% discount- the “real” price is now $706,800 (plus the parking)- offered in November 2007
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed at $699,900 plus the parking
  • Assessments of $489 a month
  • Taxes are “new”
  • Maher Partners, LLC still has the listing. See more pictures and the listing here.

The other unit we chattered about was a re-sale, Unit#504, which is also still on the market. It’s been reduced by $40,000.

Unit #504: 2 bedroom, 2 bath, 1530 square feet

  • Originally sold in October 2006 for $820,605
  • Was listed in November 2007 for $835,000 with the parking extra for $45,000
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed for $795,000 plus parking
  • Assessments of $599 a month
  • Taxes are “new”
  • Alanna Golden at Coldwell Banker has the listing. See more pictures and the listing here.

Current building stats (out of 54 units):

  • 8 for sale
  • 2 for rent

Some units may be both for sale AND for rent.

We Love Authentic Lofts: 1019 W. Jackson in the West Loop

The Singer Lofts at 1019 W. Jackson was in that group of West Loop loft buildings converted in the 1990s so some of the authentic features were maintained.

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This duplex penthouse unit has 17-foot ceilings and two private decks.

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Ken Jungwirth at Rubloff has the listing. See more pictures, the virtual tour and the floorplan here.

See the property website here.

Unit #3H: 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, no square footage listed

  • Sold in July 1999 for $220,000
  • Currently listed for $385,000 (includes heated parking)
  • Assessments of $232 a month
  • Taxes of $4578
  • Central Air
  • Second floor bedroom: 28×16
  • Bedroom #2: 15×11

Own a Piece of History: 3554 S. Union in Bridgeport

Bridgeport is the oldest neighborhood in Chicago. Unfortunately, not much of its historic past has been preserved.

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But that’s not the case with this 1898 workman’s cottage at 3554 S. Union. Its brick exterior exhudes vintage but inside it has all the modern amenities.

It’s a single family home for a condo price.

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Joe Kunkel at Baird and Warner has the listing. See more pictures here.

3554 S. Union: 2 bedrooms, 1 bath, 2 car garage, no square footage listed

  • Sold in 1999 but I couldn’t find a sales price
  • Originally listed in October 2008 for $359,000
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed for $329,000
  • Taxes are $2395
  • Central Air
  • Bedroom #1: 15×10
  • Bedroom #2: 11×10

Bucktown Bank-Owned McMansion Reduced $910K: 2322 W. Charleston

It’s back!

We chattered about this new construction McMansion home at 2322 W. Charleston in Bucktown (along with its next-door-neighbor twin, 2324 W. Charleston) nearly a year ago.

Back in February 2008, the owner was under stress as a lis pendens had been filed.

Read our chatter and see pictures here.

Now, it’s bank-owned and has been reduced by $910,000 from its original 2007 listing price.

Here’s its history:

2322 W. Charleston: 4 bedrooms, 3.5 baths, 2 car garage

  • Old house sold in January 2005 for $360,000
  • Sold in October 2006 for $1.5 million
  • Lis pendens filed in June 2007
  • Was listed in July 2007 for $1.7 million
  • Reduced to $1 million by February 2008
  • Bank-owned as of October 6, 2008
  • Now back on the market at $790,000
  • Taxes of $13,775
  • Lisa Kay at Coldwell Banker has the listing. See the listing and newer interior pictures here.

Market Conditions: Are Sellers Capitulating in Chicago?

The Chicago Tribune writes that many real estate agents are finally seeing sellers capitulating and lowering prices significantly in 2009.

Are they?

On Tuesday, a key index showed that Chicago-area home values in November posted the biggest one-month decline on record. The latest drop in the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price index has all but wiped out the local market’s gains and returned prices to May 2004 levels.

“We’re essentially at fair market value,” said Jack Ablin, chief investment officer of Harris Private Bank.

While he said he believes the worst is behind the market, he added: “Given the credit conditions and the environment, it wouldn’t be a surprise to me if we shot [below fair market value].”

Real estate agent Rhonda Crump finds herself having to heed the same advice she’s given clients. The lack of activity in real estate has affected her family’s finances.

So five months ago, she and her husband decided to sell the three-bedroom Beverly home they bought in 2006 for $273,000 and added more than $20,000 in upgrades. The original listing price was $349,000. After several reductions, Crump cut the price Monday to $280,000.

“We are doing everything we can in terms of price,” she said.

In Morgan Park, an expansive 6-bedroom, 51/2-bath home that was listed for $1 million in 2005—and is now a foreclosure with major water damage—is listed at $349,500.

Such homes are a steal for buyers, but they can also lower the value of similar houses within a one-mile radius.

“Foreclosures, even short sales, they are going to bring down values,” said Henry Torn, a buyer’s agent with Chicago Realty Partners. “We live in a new age.”

Real estate agents say home price tide has turned, sellers are capitulating [Mary Ellen Podmolik, Chicago Tribune, Jan 28, 2009]