The English Bungalow Home in Indian Boundary Park: 2601 W. Coyle in West Ridge
There are a lot of 1920s-era homes in the Indian Boundary Park neighborhood of West Ridge on the north side, including this 3-bedroom one at 2601 W. Coyle.
It has full length windows with juliette balconies and a vintage wood burning fireplace in the living room.
The kitchen has been remodeled and it has a lower level family room.
The house has also been reduced $100,000 since it’s April 2009 original listing.
Mary Ann Dooley at Coldwell Banker has the listing. See more pictures here.
2601 W. Coyle: 3 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, no square footage listed, 2 car garage
- Sold in September 1988 for $200,000
- Sold in April 2000 for $351,000
- Originally listed in April 2009 for $575,000
- Reduced several times
- Currently listed for $475,000
- Taxes of $7344
- No central air- window units
- Bedroom #1: 21×12
- Bedroom #2: 14×10
- Bedroom #3: 14×10
The advert reads: “Oversized Chicago Lot.”
Uh oh, here comes the yardwork debate again…
I like the dark woodwork in the living room and well as te custom nooks in the master bed. It lends itself to the earlier era when it was built. I wish the rest of the house was finished to the same standard (especially the kitchen).
Don’t know much about this area….is it better than say West Rogers Park?
“The advert reads: “Oversized Chicago Lot.”
Uh oh, here comes the yardwork debate again”
And, it’s a corner lot, too.
“is it better than say West Rogers Park”
Yes. How much better I’ll leave to someone else, as I’m no expert on the ‘hood.
West Rogers? More like Lincolnwood!
Those seats in the basement are REALLY far from that TV! Um but almost 500k to live here? No thanks
Its a cool house, but who wants to bail out a fat baby boomer hoping for outsized appreciation?
400k.
some really cool places around IB park, including apts. didnt really know it was different than west ridge….seems like they are all a part of west rogers park but might be some disagreement there.
The park itself is very nice. they even have a little zoo. though the only animal to be seen last time i visited was a duck.
“Bob on August 25th, 2009 at 10:55 am
fat baby boomer hoping for outsized appreciation”
Do you have Tourette’s? Where do you get this shit?
I’m not sure where Bob gets it … but it’s hilarious. keep it comin’ Bob.
I suspect bradford himself tips the scale on the BMI chart.
It’s east of california, so that qualifies it as west rogers park instead of lincolnwood. It’s got curb appeal, in a safe neighborhood and has some unique touches like the breakfast area (http://www.smartfloorplan.com/il/v290530). Also, fat baby boomer? I don’t know if that’s the neighborhood demo…
“so that qualifies it as west rogers park instead of lincolnwood”
It’s in Chicago, so that qualifies it as “not Lincolnwood”.
I know it’s not Lincolnwood but come on, when you start getting that close to the suburbs, does it make a difference? is Lincolnwood all that different from Niles or Skokie? I grew up in the burbs and people got all offended when you confused Wheeling with Buffalo Grove with Arlinton Heights. It’s like god, one intersection can be three different suburbs but they’re all basically the same. I’d bet this owner does a lot of his shopping at the mall in Lincolnwood just a few blocks away.
“Bob on August 25th, 2009 at 11:22 am
I suspect bradford himself tips the scale on the BMI chart.”
Interesting…I’d love to know how you inferred that.
Are you sure you don’t want to accuse me of being a Terrorist, or a Smurf, or the Second Coming of Jesus Christ? Maybe I’m Velma from Scooby Doo.
Here’s a thought: Walk to the bathroom. Open the medicine cabinet. Take two pills from the bottle marked “LITHIUM” and swallow them.
Bradford, don’t take it personally. It’s a reasonable first guess to assume that anyone from Chicago is pushing the BMI scale. This city ranks in America’s top 5 most obese cities. I’m from Alaska, so don’t lump me in.
Because I obviously hit a nerve with my comment. So my guess, hypothesis, at that, is you fit both characteristics.
“Maybe I’m Velma from Scooby Doo.”
No, that’s me. I’m pretty sure you’re Fred. It’s probably the blue ascot.
Or maybe I just had one too many “scooby snax”, iykwim.
“people got all offended when you confused Wheeling with Buffalo Grove with Arlinton Heights”
And then all the jackasses who grew up there who say–to people who live in Chicago–that they “grew up in Chicago”. It’s close enough when you’re talking to someone from New Jersey at college in North Carolina (or whatever), but be serious–everyone will ask “where” and you have to say “Buffalo Grove” not “Galewood”, so it’s pointless.
LMAO anon is now picking on the Dookies. Yah I always clarify exactly where someone who says they are from Chicago grew up. Because if they are really _from Chicago_, they always specify whereabouts if its within the city. If its within Chicagoland they conveniently drop -land part of Chicagoland if from Buffalo Grove/Tinley Park/etc.
Yes, Bob, I’m a fat baby boomer. *rolls eyes*
You’re like Cribchatter’s Ralph Wiggum. Tell us, does your cat’s breath smell like cat food?
Love this house, love the wood, agree with AK47 the kitchen doesnt have the same feel. but the house looks well cared for and reminds me of every chicago house i grew up or played in.
as for the area its been about 9 years since i have frequented the side streets over there. You have Thillens staduim right there!!!
if the hood is good then the house should go for 445k cause of the central air thing.
“JPS on August 25th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Don’t know much about this area….is it better than say West Rogers Park?”
Indian Boundry is a neighborhood within the official area of West Ridge. West Ridge, aka West Rodger Park, actually start at Ridge Ave on the east and end on the west at the Saganash area- not sure what street exactly but about Pulaski.
And yes, West Ridge/RP is better than Rodgers Park. There is a world of difference between the congestion, crime, housing stock- no old highrises or 4+1’s in West Ridge. I used to live just east of Western. I would run/bike through the IB neighborhood and can say it is a very nice hood in many ways.
there are 2 major issues with this house: no A/C and 1 bath on the second fl.
I would also recommend a privacy fence for the back yard.
I do love the main entryway with the vestibule and door great curved wood doors. You don’t get that on a cookie cutter new construction.
“the house should go for 445k cause of the central air thing.”
The downer is that the 2d floor is both (a) lacking in closet space, and (b) doesn’t have a reasonable place other than the master closet (only one that’s decent-sized) to put a 2d bath.
And the kitchen would be dramatically improved by putting in (i) some sort of backsplash and (ii) black appliances–ie easy fixes.
Neighborhood has a significant orthodox jewish population, requiring walking distance to their temple and an orthodox school, and an equally large ethnic Eastern European and Southern Asian immigrant population. English is not the first language of this community. Lincolnwood is the natural move-up community for this area.
Architect
“Neighborhood has a significant orthodox jewish population”
i thought that the orthodox jewish community was between central park and california and bryn mawr and devon?
Tom,
you dont like the iron fence, from the pick it looks pretty sweet.
Anon,
living in old chicago places you get used to the extreemly small closets and sharing a bathroom.
you are right the kitchen should be an easy fix.
Tom, you mean that West Ridge/west Rogers Park WAS better than East Rogers Park.
No more.
I’m shocked at the transformation that has take place in West Ridge/W. Rogers Park in the past 5 years. In 2002, that area was pristine, with an interesting mix of people.
Now, however, gangs and blight have pushed west, especially close to Howard St. The Warren Park area is experiencing problems, too. Indian Boundary Park is still a lovely area, but for how long? I located a fabulous rental, an elegant old 7 room flat in a beautiful 3-unit building, for an elderly friend and now regret having steered him over there, to Washtenaw just south of Devon. That street used to be pristine, but no longer.Gangs moving in and many large apartment buildings now occupied by large number of Section 8 tenants with too many kids and out-of-control teens.
I would be very careful about buying in this area, given the way some of the landlords are treating their apt. buildings in the vicinity. There’s a reason condos over there are now cheaper than those in E. Rogers Park east of the el tracks. The whole area between Clark and California is having new problems.
The Orthodox Jewish people are still hanging in there, but their kids are going elsewhere. Thing is, when one leaves, they’ll all leave. The Hindus and Pakistanis have also been a positive influence. But none of these three groups will tolerate rising crime.
Actually, that Master Bedroom is huge (someone previously mistook one of the other bedrooms which are almost half the size for the master). It would be relatively easy to put in a new, large master bath directly above the kitchen while keeping the existing walk-in and maintain a decently sized master bedroom…
I think biggest group of orthodox congregation members are clustered near Pratt/California, near orthodox school’s immediate neighborhood.
Washtenaw south of Devon; that’s old St Timothy’s catholic parish. Don’t know if church is still open; school closed long ago and convent was for sale several years ago.
Architect,
i do know there are few schools south of devon, the jewish blind one on foster by kimbal, two on peterson, one by lincoln ave and the other next to hollywood park.
Having said all of the above, I love this house and love that neighborhood. Let’s hope it can be saved before it’s too far gone.
The was the only “plus” to the Great Housing Bubble- many edgy neighborhoods were vastly improved because prime areas were priced totally out of reach of middle-income people. Let’s hope we can keep some of those gains, because we’re sure stuck with debt, bad construction, and plain old bad karma for having misbehaved so badly.
West Ridge has some nice blocks of single-family housing, though many blocks have a pronounced mix of single-family houses, two-flats/three-flats, and/or large apartment buildings. That mix makes for a diverse socio-economic mix. These days, that mix can also cause neighborhood instability, problems with unsupervised acting-out teenagers running the streets, and disfunctional families disrupting quiet and content neighboring households.
Public schools in this area (Boone and Clinton) are overcrowded and poor performers with a very transient population. Both schools’ draw areas contain a lot of apartment units, which usually means a significant turnover of households. As noted earlier by another poster, Sec. 8 families are present in West Ridge, which always has an impact upon schools, plus, as a first-home destination for many immigrant families, “English as a Second Language” needs can also overwhelm a school with a large need for english lessons for non-english speaking students.
A middle-class white-collar family moving into West Ridge now would need to calculate private school tuition into their budget, and locate and enroll in those schools. Catholic schools in area have closed and/or consolidated; private schools have backlog of applicants. Though Northside Prep HS is nearby, this year’s freshman class enrollments (published in Trib) noted that white students had to be in 99% percentile to be accepted.
There lies Chicago’s problem: middle-class and white-collar families have few educational choices available to their children. The neighborhood public schools tend to be poor-performing (yes, excepting the handful of Classical Schools, three Prep HS’s, and Edgebrook School et al) and private school enrollment tends to be expensive (Ignatius will run $15,000/year total) and difficult to gain admission (Ignatius accepts 1 in 3 self-selected high-achiever applicants, for instance).
No wonder parents move to the expensive upscale suburbs- it’s all in a quest for good-quality education for their children and to keep the bad influences away from their children as much as possible.
Architect,
very, very well stated. thank you!
would you be able to provide a link to the trib article i would like to read that.
Groove77, I didn’t find the exact article (I think), but a Tribune article from yesterday contains this quote:
“Hensey said Payton officials would not fully explain why a student who scored 984 points was not accepted when the average score of those who got in was 956. She said they told her only that the race guidelines mandated by the federal government would not let them admit one more white female.
What Celia didn’t know, and Chicago schools officials hesitate to talk about, is that only 32 white girls got into Payton last year out of the thousands who applied, state enrollment data showed.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-selective-schools-25-aug25,0,1082228,full.story
I’d rather send my kids (if I had any) to New Trier or Stevenson any day over Payton or Young. The CPS school system is such a joke. The only way to win in the CPS is to not play at all.
You do realize that Payton and Young are actually better schools right? And heaven forbid your kids sit in classrooms with kids of different races! Oh god think of the horror! They might be cultured or something!
You’re the racist bringing race into it. It has nothing to do with race. Payton and Young may have slightly better test scores but the difference is that if I live within the New Trier or Stevenson boundaries, my children are guaranteed admission into said school. The only way to win at with the CPS is to not play at all, or, as I’ve long suspected, you have to ‘pay to play.’
“Sonies on August 26th, 2009 at 9:02 am
You do realize that Payton and Young are actually better schools right? And heaven forbid your kids sit in classrooms with kids of different races! Oh god think of the horror! They might be cultured or something!”
Selective enrollment highschools mean very little if the admissions processess are rigged or determined by anything other than academic merit. People need to wake up and realize that is definitely the case in Chicago.
In todays era of AA and other admissions standards not related to academic merit, the perceived value of school’s reputation truly ceases to have meaning.
That being said I feel sorry for the kids whose parents push them into these super selective highschools. I actually doubt they are doing them too many favors other than getting them out of the general population of CPS. Kids pushed very hard at that age its my guess are orders of magnitude more likely to burn out in college or rebel in some way to their detriment.
If I had kids and was going the CPS route I’d prefer a local magnet over a Payton or Whitney any day.
Sonies if you ever have kids I encourage you to send them the the local non-magnet school. Your kid will grow up learning of the supposed ‘benefits of diversity’ firsthand unlike you who probably went to some suburban whitbread school and got your political and ideological beliefs from the mainstream media.
hd: “Payton and Young may have slightly better test scores but the difference is that if I live within the New Trier or Stevenson boundaries, my children are guaranteed admission into said school.”
Dooooode, that’s not what you said. You said you would rather send them to NT or Stevenson than Payton or Young. You said **NOTHING** about the admissions process; what you wrote implied presumed admission. Sonies made a reasonable point based on WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WROTE. Which I realize isn’t what you meant, but still.
bob: “In todays era of AA and other admissions standards not related to academic merit, the perceived value of school’s reputation truly ceases to have meaning.”
So, this applies to all universities, too? Are the only school’s with “reputations with meaning” those that give admissions breaks to NO ONE? If so, I’d be interested to know what college/university satisfies your standard.
tipster, thanks bro/gal i just got sick to my stomach reading that article.
i cant imagine the pressure kids have nowadays in school to do good and not miss a day. an 12 year old should not have to worry, if they miss a few days of school cause they are sick or if they slip and get one B, that their future is over.
hd,
CPS system is a joke only because most of the people who care and can do something about their kids education flee to the burbs instead of fighting to make the CPS better.
sonies
“Oh god think of the horror! They might be cultured or something!” thats one reason that has us anchored to the city. i dont want my kids growing up in a lilly white burb.
bob,
these parents push there kids so hard cause they parents know what the local HS is like.
anon(tfo), even if my children got accepted to CPS elite schools I’d still rather send them to an elite suburban school. And the guaranteed admission to NT is a great thing too.
groove, CPS is broken and it’s not up to one man to fix it. There’s no fixing Schurz or Clemente. There’s no way in hell I’m hanging around long enough to see it get fixed, which by the way, can’t be done. There’s been 2 or 3 generations of ghetto gangbangers sending their children to Schurz, Clemente, etc, and it’s not like those students are going to magically disappear. That’s why CPS sux just like every major school system in the country. SAy what you want but when only 6 out of every 100 students graduates a four year college within 6 years….
” if they miss a few days of school cause they are sick or if they slip and get one B, that their future is over.”
Melodrama, man, melodrama. She’s in the honors program at KA. She’s probably got a better chance of getting into a better college from KA than from Payton, or Northside, or Young (or NT or Stevenson, for that matter). Her future is hardly over–and she apparently only wanted to go to Payton, not Young or Northside or Lane or Jones (she certainly would have gotten into Lane), so she (and her parents) must have thought KA was a fine 2d choice to Payton. It’s like not getting into Harvard while not applying to any other Ivy and then complaining about the elitism of Ivy League schools.
“even if my children got accepted to CPS elite schools I’d still rather send them to an elite suburban school”
And thus Sonies made a valid conclusion.
Diversity is one of the reasons I prefer to stay in Chicago and send my son to a CPS school, but it is beyond frustrating to know that if he turns out to be an outstanding student he may not be able to get into a good enough CPS school. At that point I would feel obligated to move to the suburbs to provide him with the education that he will NEED to compete as an adult.
This whole issue would be moot to me if CPS built two or three or four more schools of the same caliber as Young, Payton, and North Side. Then there would be plenty of room to educate all of the very brightest of students that seem to be overwhelming Chicago Public Schools.
Bob:
I want to know why people assume that school admissions is based on merit alone? Nothing in life outside of professional sports and some commissioned sales jobs is based entirely on merit. Even then, there is still room for fudging nowadays. It would be nice if the only thing that mattered was merit, but we all know the real world doesn’t operate that way.
For someone who is coldly logical as you, your position seems illogical.
This will probably get me in trouble, but I don’t get the uproar over the influence admissions at UIC. I mean it is a good school and all, but doesn’t seem like the kind of school where pulling strings is necessary or maybe I just have higher expectations in regards to what folks consider prestige schools these days.
“it is beyond frustrating to know that if he turns out to be an outstanding student he may not be able to get into a good enough CPS school”
What’s “good enough”?
“if CPS built two or three or four more schools of the same caliber as Young, Payton, and North Side”
OH. So you expect your kids to be top 1%-ish (well, 2%-ish, if there were 3 more schools). And Lane (or an equivalent–which would actually be much more helpful for CPS as a whole, imo) simply ain’t gonna hack it. Well, then you have about 4 suburban schools to choose from that would be “good enough”, by that standard.
Look. I get it. I’m in same boat. But I also don’t think that *only* the top-3 schools are “acceptable”.
“” if they miss a few days of school cause they are sick or if they slip and get one B, that their future is over.””
anon,
i said that in a way that the student feels, you and i both know its not, but to a 12 year old under that pressure it will.
tipster,
Diversity is something i want my kids to grow up with too. thats how i grew up in a big mix, my sons godfather and godmother are two gay dudes, our hood now has a mix from muslium to latin to black to polish to some crazy middle eastern family at the end of our block.
I want them to be around that but not at the cost of there education prospects. and thats the big debate in our house now.
i agree with you HD, the only admissions requirement for a school like new trier is living in the hood. and some how it still a top ranked school?
but come on have you been to one of those art fairs or things out on the north shore. all those white people in one place scare me!
anon let me ask you this, do you live in a hood where the school is above average CPS?
I know it’s difficult for you city folk to believe but the suburbs ain’t as white bread 1950’s Leave it to Beaver as you think. Hersey in Arl. Hts. is actually more diverse than Schurz. What?
Hersey is 81% white, 1.5% black, 8% hispanic and 7% asian.
Schurz is 83% hispanic, 9% white, 6% black.
Amazing, a high school in arl hts is more diverse than a high school in Chicago.
“anon let me ask you this, do you live in a hood where the school is above average CPS?”
Elem? Yes. HS? No.
And make no mistake, I’m not defending the shite CPS perpetrates on the below average schools and those stuck in the *really* bad ones. But we don’t live in f’ing Lake Wobegon, either (not even those in New Trier), so there is a reality that half the world (kids, schools, everything) is below average/median/whatever.
” unlike you who probably went to some suburban whitbread school ”
No, i went to a private school that was about as diverse as it gets, people from all over the world, Asia, South America, Inner city USA, Suburban kids, etc. Far less than 50% white kids.
“and got your political and ideological beliefs from the mainstream media.”
LOL! no… I’m currently a man without a party.
My high school was over 25% hispanic, 5% black and 10% asian. The suburbs aren’t as white bread as you see movies like Heathers and The breakfast club. John Hughes’ whitebread world was nearly 30 years ago.
anon,
i live over by Riis park, so that could tell you the CPS aspects i have. and now you can see why most of my rants are justfied 🙂
hd,
“Hersey is 81% white” like i said to many white folk in one place scares me
hd,
You obviously don’t know the liberals definition of diversity. It means percentage non-white. But thanks for that data I will use that in my discourse with liberals who can’t think for themselves.
My apologies Sonies. I did goto a WB HS..but bounced around a lot in middleschool each year (new school built, family moved) and can say that the worst ones had an element and demographic that didn’t really give a crap. Not the majority like CPS but at least 25%. I too had behavioral problems in middleschool because that was normal–fitting in.
One of the hoodlums from my neighborhood I used to hang with I knew wouldn’t turn out well and sure enough he wound up killing someone via crashing a college party he wasn’t invited to and stabbing the kid to death. He of course never went to college and owes all you attorneys a huge thanks though as he only got 13 years and 10 was overturned on an appeal.
The WB HS I went to had a per capita student spending a fraction of the inner city schools across state lines a mere 5 miles away, yet scores were much higher.
“John Hughes’ whitebread world was nearly 30 years ago.”
Not in your “preferred” schools:
New Trier demo:
89% White (Caucasian)
8% Asian/ Pacific Islander
2% Hispanic
So, white (and Asian) kids are WAY over-rep’d in these schools):
Northside:
41.4% White (Caucasian)
28.2% Asian
21.1% Hispanic
Payton:
37% – White
19% – Hispanic
19% – African American
14% – Asian
09% – Multi-Racial/Other
00% – Native American
If I ever have kids I’m going to encourage them to never fill out their ‘race’ on any form. If indeed race is a social construct, it should be irrelevant. I’m not going to make it easier for some anonymous bureaucrat to categorize them by the color of their skin.
Anyone who wants to know what ‘race’ my kids are is going to have to meet them personally or see a picture. No way am I ever volunteering up that information so wannabe societal engineers can make decisions based on it.
“If I ever have kids I’m going to encourage them to never fill out their ‘race’ on any form. If indeed race is a social construct, it should be irrelevant. I’m not going to make it easier for some anonymous bureaucrat to categorize them by the color of their skin.”
Dude, just put “Hernandez” or “Garcia” down as their last name on their birth cert. Then the anonymous bureaucrat can categorize them based on a made-up name. Win-win, right?
My uncle’s name is Garcia and his grandfather was from Spain, so that makes him Spanish. Is he also hispanic? – doubtful. That was a racist comment to assume everyone with the last name garcia or hernandez is hispanic. shame on you.
I was thinking maybe something a little more creative, like Fubureaucrat..its french.
there are no Hispanics, I doubt latinos feel themselves as ‘a spain lover’. Moreover, some suburban schools might have diversity, but like Bob said, its just a number, doesn’t actually represent a diversity of ideas and thought, beliefs, and practice, most suburbs the colored students are more white than white people just so they can be under the radar.
“That was a racist comment”
As every form I’ve seen in the last ten years sez “hispanics may be of any race”.
I don’t want my kids attending a school for ‘diversity of thought’. Thats a code word for good kids and bad kids. Its very easy to fall in with the bad kids, trust me I did so for a time.
seriously how does anybody on CC get any work done?
WHen you spend 12 or 13 hours a day at work, 5 minutes here and there doesn’t count for much.
“i live over by Riis park”
While I’m sure nothing near you would rise to the level of a typical Riis photo, I am saddened that a park named in his honor is in a not-nice part of the City.
Well, in the not-nice parts is where The Other Half Lives
If you close your eyes, live in LP, work in the loop and never go west of Western, then you’ll never know the other half exists.
“If you close your eyes, live in LP, work in the loop and never go west of Western, then you’ll never know the other half exists.”
Although I live in LV I much prefer this. Its like the old Beatles lyrics “nothings gonna change my world”.
Except to visit the occasional friend west of the river or in, gasp, Humboldt Park, but I pack my caravan oregon trail style when heading out west and make sure the oxen are well fed.
Things exist west of Western?
hd,
dude thats alot of work hours 🙁 i feel for ya. you must love what ya do. I waste about 10% of my work day on CC now 🙂
anon,
the hood is not what it once was, its all foreclosures, there are more and more thugs now, tired of people yelling out of car windows when i go jogging at night.
but the blocks i live around are very family oriented and we have been good at rallying to keep the bangers away and we all look out for the neighborhood kids. but the block surrounding us are getting worse.
but the park is still nice, stop by it one day, its 90% hispanic at the park if that bothers people.
“Things exist west of Western?”
good one!
“most suburbs the colored students are more white than white people just so they can be under the radar”
not in evanston. though i know some people with average student kids used to try to move before hs. maybe a really good suburban hs with real black folk is a white whale.
Homedelete: my favorite Chicago purchasing program MBE (minority business enterprise) story is the total german ancestry (and obvious german surname) architect who happened to be born in South America (Argentina in early 50s?) who applied for and received hispanic minority classification from Chicago’s purchasing department. He mascaraded as a hispanic architect for years, despite the german surname and social-elite superiority complex.
My second favorite MBE story is the non-hispanic no hispanic family history) woman who applied for MBE status simply because her husband had a hispanic surname, and she also received MBE classification.
Chicago is apparently all about “gaming the system”. Most residents are either scamming some entitlements program, or complaining about others who are doing so. Enrollment at the elite CPD high schools is a near impossibility for white students, unless there is the clout card. Black and hispanic students definitely don’t need to achieve the same percentile scores, as reported recently by Tribune. Score differential is significant – maybe 10 percentile points. Ancedotely, several parents of white students who were denied enrollment knew of classmates who scored much lower but obtained enrollment – likely because of their different racial categorization.
By the way, Chicago Magazine this month quotes Oak Park River Forest HS, a formerly academically strong near-suburban school now suffering greatly from “gangbanger wannabee” out-of-control students, was identified as nicknamed “Smoke Park Reefer Forest HS”. God, how true.
“Diversity” unfortunately is too often interpreted as permission to act out in a gangbanger poor-behaved low-academic-achieving manner with school administration celebrating the “social difference”. This benign tolerance of bad behavior may have good intentions, but it badly serves all students – by sanctioning poor behavior that is generally not tolerated in the real working-life wage-earning world.
That’s more true than you’d ever guess!
“Chicago is apparently all about “gaming the system”. Most residents are either scamming some entitlements program, or complaining about others who are doing so.”
In true Chicago fashion I’ll just change my surname as suggested above. Its only the white liberal idiots who support these programs and honestly believe in them and their intention that are going to get left out.
I’m gonna game the system and get mine. I’ve been pretty good at it thus far in life.
talk about hitting it on the head there mr. architect.
“Chicago is apparently all about “gaming the system”. Most residents are either scamming some entitlements program, or complaining about others who are doing so.”
the stories and stories and even more stories i have about that. i stopped talking to a few friends cause of it.
I have a ex-friend at work who is on every government program possible just bought a house with gubment money….ah chicago 🙂