Will the Crilly Court Hot Streak Continue? 1706 N. Wells in Old Town
This 3-bedroom unit at 1706 N. Wells, in the Crilly Court conversion, in Old Town just came on the market.
It is listed for $59,000 more than the 2007 purchase price.
Before you get in a huff about the price, we chattered about another one of these 3-bedroom units in Crilly Court in February of this year. It ended up selling for more than its 2007 price. Here is the history:
1702 N. Wells #3: 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1507 square feet
- Sold in July 2007 for $467,000
- Originally was listed in February 2010 for $525,000
- Under contract within 14 days
- Closed in April 2010 for $499,000
See our February chatter here.
Now 1706 N. Wells has come on the market. It is also one of the larger units.
Converted in 2007, the unit has a renovated kitchen with stainless steel appliances and a marble master bath.
The listing says the third bedroom was opened to make a larger living/dining area.
Like the unit on the market earlier this year, there is no parking included with this unit.
Will Crilly Court continue to be one of the few buildings that defies the downturn?
Robin Miner at @Properties has the listing. See the pictures here.
Unit #3: 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1507 square feet
- Sold in August 2007 for $467,000
- Currently listed for $525,000
- Assessments of $298 a month
- Taxes of $6371
- Central Air
- Washer/Dryer in the unit
- No parking – rental available in the neighborhood
- Bedroom #1: 13×12
- Bedroom #2: 16×12
- Bedroom #3: 11×10
Not sure what it will sell for but I love the wallpaper in the bathrooms! I think wallpaper used tastefully is beautiful!
No.
I wouldnt pay half a million to live above a store front.
And sorry David, IMHO, that wallpaper is disgusting.
Nice 2 bedroom place.
Mention of a third bedroom is sillytalk. You don’t get to eliminate a bedroom because you have no living space and then advertise it as a three bedroom (floorplan). What an excellent tactic: oversell & underdeliver. Genius!
That said, 1702 #3 is a nice comp for this place to have (same purchase price, same square footage). Probably will land close to that selling price.
wait… so they knocked down a wall, but still include the dimensions of a third BR in the listing? ridiculous.
The place is well done though and the location is fantastic.
I’m assuming that bedroom 3 would have been where the zebraish rug is placed. This would have included a window, closet, and ceiling fan. It would have also left you with a small living room. Eliminating that bedroom was the right thing to do for most buyers because many in the area will never need that extra room! Great location and tasteful decorations will allow this to sell close to ask……if there is a parking spot included. If not I think there will be a free fall.
BTW I like the wallpaper. Not sure all the female buyers will identify with the prints on the wall in the bathroom though.
“if there is a parking spot included.”
There is NO parking included. There are only, I believe, 8 spots with the building and all were sold with the more expensive, larger units.
We chattered about the lack of parking in February with the other unit that sold. Some of you seemed to think lack of parking would hurt the re-sale of that unit- but it didn’t. Under contract in 14 days.
I think these might be direct links to the property for additional info:
http://www.1706nwells3.info/
http://www.atproperties.com/homes/IL/CHICAGO/60614/1706_N_WELLS_Street/ENH4233/index.html
This is a 2 bedroom, not a 3 bedroom. Ridiculous and unethical to advertise it as such.
What income level would be required to buy this place assuming it sells at $500K, with 20% down?
I think these might be direct links to the property for additional info:
http://www.1706nwells3.info/
This is the floorplan:
http://docs.atproperties.com/pdfs/7668205_1706_N_WELLS_3.pdf
It does seem to be the same layout as the previously listed unit.
It is a sham to call it a 3 bedroom with the 2 bathrooms located at the rear of the unit.
“It is a sham to call it a 3 bedroom with the 2 bathrooms located at the rear of the unit.”
To make matters worse, it looks like it has NEVER been a 3 bedroom place – only that the “developer’s floorplan” had a third bedroom on it. Shady lady this one…
crack pipe.
when i think of all the 2 bedroom/2 baths that can be had in this city (in desirable locations) for $200K less than that asking price (with parking)…not to mention that one could find much larger (500 SF larger), true 3 bedroom/2 baths with parking, balcony, and views for about this same asking price….i’m left wondering how in God’s name this place could sell for $350/SF.
that much premium for being in a nice location in Old Town?
seems silly.
I, myself, wouldn’t pay this premium…but it does have certain things going for it.
Location:
It is north of North Ave.
It is in Old Town Triangle.
Steps from Lakefront.
It has a Wells street address (I don’t get this). You put a property on Wells vs. say St. Paul or N. North Park and the Wells address has this premium. I would prefer not to be on Wells, but different folks different strokes.
Food:Treasure Island, Lincoln Park farmers market, Nookies, Adobe Grill, McD, Home(something) you cook it yourself pizza, Boston Market
Bars: Old Town Ale House, Corcorans, North Ave Sports bar
Transport: Brown Line, numerous Sedgwick, North Ave, Lasalle, Wells buses
Over all convenience: I think from this spot, I can do a 360 and see 5 dry cleaners within a block and also on Wells you have a Chase, Citibank, Bank of America, North Community Bank, blah blah blah
You want crack pipe? Here is Old Town crack-pipe.
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/234-W-Saint-Paul-Ave-60614/home/13345331
Don’t get me wrong. It’s nicely done. But its also less than 2000 sq. ft. so you are at ~$600/sq. ft. for Old Town Triangle
What a great place!!! Great location, great layout and priced well. Whoever gets the opportunity to buy this is going to love it and is EXTREMELY lucky. Good Job!!!
“You want crack pipe? Here is Old Town crack-pipe.
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/234-W-Saint-Paul-Ave-60614/home/13345331”
Listed as under contract. Lot is 28×52…
Well, the seller on St. Paul passed the pipe because it’s under contract.
Under contract is the same as an
unrealized gain or vaporware or FUD
Let me know when it closes and the moolah changes hands.
The door from the outside going into that back bedroom makes it almost a one bedroom plus den.
We’ve got it all in Old Town. Even the lovely 4+1
like:
http://achicagosojourn.blogspot.com/2010/09/painted-concrete-artistry-of-jerome.html
I hate 4+1’s
“The door from the outside going into that back bedroom makes it almost a one bedroom plus den.”
I was thinking along the same lines–I’d dig this place sans kids and with relatively infrequent house guests, as it would be a very nice 1 BR + office/den/guest room set up.
““The door from the outside going into that back bedroom makes it almost a one bedroom plus den.”
When I lived in a split 2 bdrm in Printers row, we had two doors into the unit. One main door and one other door via the kitchen. ???
Someone had told me that over a certain size unit, the City of Chicago dictates two ways to ingress/egress? Anyone know if this is true and can list the city code?
No one else seems to have pointed out that the only visible closet in the MBR (maybe there’s another), seems to be blocked by the night-table? How does that work. Also, the second BR looks relatively small (twin size bed?!) and the one bathroom didn’t look so great for a new conversion (the other one looked much nicer)
“Someone had told me that over a certain size unit, the City of Chicago dictates two ways to ingress/egress? Anyone know if this is true and can list the city code?”
C’mon chichow, “anyone”? Here’s the relevant section, in full:
13-160-050 Minimum number of exits.
There shall be not less than two exits from every building, floor, space or room, except that one exit may be permitted from any room or space under the conditions outlined in subsection (a) through (b) of this section; and one exit may be permitted from a floor under the conditions outlined in subsections (c) through (o) of this section.
(a) In all occupancies except hazardous use units, one exit shall be permitted from any room or space designed or used for an occupancy of not more than 50 persons and having an area not exceeding 1,200 square feet; or when used for business, mercantile, industrial and storage uses not exceeding 4,000 square feet provided the travel distance from the exit door to the most remote point in the room or space does not exceed 75 feet, or 115 feet if equipped throughout with a standard automatic sprinkler system as defined in Chapter 15-16 of this Code.
(b) In all occupancies one exit shall be permitted from any room or space having an area not exceeding 2,000 square feet and used exclusively for storage purposes with only incidental human occupancy.
(c) In single-family dwellings and townhouses, one exit shall be permitted from any floor not more than one story above or below grade; provided that the area of such floor shall not exceed 1,500 square feet.
(d) In multiple dwellings, one exit serving one family only shall be permitted from the first or second story, and one exit shall be permitted from a basement space provided that the area of such floor or basement shall not exceed 800 square feet.
(e) In multiple dwellings, one exit shall be permitted to a public corridor from a dwelling unit when the travel distance to the most remote door within the unit does not exceed 35 feet and 55 feet from the most remote point of the dwelling unit. Two corridor exit doors are required when these distances are exceeded.
(1) When the dwelling unit is equipped with approved smoke detectors and/or automatic sprinklers the above travel distances may be increased to 40 feet and 60 feet respectively.
(f) In multiple dwellings, two stories high, except in buildings of Type III-C or IV-A or IV-B construction, one inside stairway from the second floor shall be permitted under the following conditions:
(1) The second floor shall have an area not exceeding 4,000 square feet and shall contain not more than four dwelling units.
(2) The stairway and public corridors leading thereto shall be enclosed by walls providing fire resistance of not less than one hour, and all openings in such walls shall be protected with doors having fire resistance not less than a solid wood door one and three- fourths inches thick.
(3) The stairway shall lead directly to an outside exit at grade.
(4) The stairs shall be constructed of noncombustible materials.
(5) The distance to the stairway from the exit door of any dwelling unit shall not exceed 20 feet.
(g) In multiple dwellings of Types I-A, I-B and I- C construction not more than four stories high, one stairway shall be permitted under the following conditions:
(1) No floor served by such stairway shall have an area exceeding 4,000 square feet nor shall contain more than four dwelling units.
(2) The stairway shall be enclosed by walls providing fire resistance of not less than two hours, and all openings in such walls shall be protected with self- closing Class B fire door.
(3) The stairway shall lead directly to an outside exit at grade.
(4) The stairway shall extend to the roof from which there shall be access to an adjoining roof of another building of the same occupancy, height and construction type and having a similar stairway arrangement.
(5) The distance to the stairway from the exit door of any dwelling unit shall not exceed 20 feet.
(h) In multiple dwellings and business units of Types I-A, I-B or I-C construction not more than eight stories in height, one smokeproof tower shall be permitted under the following conditions:
(1) No floor above the first floor shall have an area exceeding 6,000 square feet nor shall contain more than eight dwelling units.
(2) Public corridors leading to the smokeproof tower shall be enclosed by walls providing fire resistance of not less than two hours, and all openings in such walls shall be protected with Class C fire doors.
(i) In fire stations one inside stairway shall be permitted from the second floor where there are not less than two slide poles in addition thereto.
(j) In all public buildings there shall be no less than one primary entrance or exit for the handicapped from the property line to the building, accessible to, and usable by, individuals in wheel chairs, or those with major mobility limitations.
(k) In all group homes there shall be two exits from each floor.
(l) In intermediate care facilities for the developmentally disabled – 15 or less, every floor containing areas or rooms used by residents shall have at least two exits remote from each other. At least one means of egress shall consist of an interior stairway, an enclosed outside stairway or a horizontal exit.
(m) In multiple and single-family dwellings of any construction type not over three stories in height, units having an area not over 1,500 square feet on the third floor and at least one interior stair serving exclusively that unit, leading from the third floor to an exterior exit, may substitute for the second exit from the third floor of one of the following means of escape:
(1) A continuous exterior deck linking three or more units at the third floor level, with at least one hinged glazed door from each unit to the deck, provided such door has a glass light immediately above the lock rail, made of one or more panes of glass not thicker than double-strength glass, and the edge of the glass light is not further than nine inches from any locking devices in the door.
(2) A stair from each unit leading to the building roof through a penthouse and hinged door, provided the building consists of at least three units and each hinged penthouse door contains a glass light constructed as in paragraph (1) above. In the event that roof decks are provided for more than one-third of the units, an exterior stair or protected interior stair shall be provided from the roof to grade.
(3) An approved automatic sprinkler system complying with one of the following National Fire Prevention Association Standards:
N.F.P.A. 13, 1994 Edition;
N.F.P.A. 13R, 1991 Edition; or
N.F.P.A. 13D, 1991 Edition.
(n) In townhouse dwellings of IIIB construction or better up to four stories in height, units having an area not over 1,500 square feet on the highest story and having at least one interior stair serving exclusively that unit and leading from the highest story to an exterior exit, may substitute for the second exit required from the third or fourth stories a continuous exterior deck linking three or more units at the highest story, provided that:
(1) a clear unobstructed 3 foot wide path is reserved for egress to a stair leading directly to an outside exit at grade;
(2) each habitable room on the third and fourth floor is provided with at least one outside window having a sill height not higher than 44 inches above the finished floor and an operable sash with a clear opening of not less than 24 inches horizontally or 36 inches vertically and a minimum area of six square feet; and
(3) all bedrooms are provided with 1 3/4 inch thick solid core doors and with solid 1 3/4 inch rabbetted door jambs.
(o) In single-family dwellings and in two-unit multi-family dwellings not over three stories, the second exit from the third floor of a unit may be waived if:
(1) the third floor area of that unit is not over 800 square feet;
(2) in addition to the interior stair, a second exit is provided from the second floor to an exterior porch or deck leading to finish grade;
(3) said porch or deck is not higher than 12 feet above finish grade;
(4) each habitable room on the third floor is provided with at least one outside operable window having a sill height not higher than 44 inches above the finished floor and a minimum clear opening of either 24 inches horizontally or 36 inches vertically, and a minimum area of six square feet;
(5) all bedrooms are provided with 1 3/4 inch thick solid core doors and with 1 3/4 solid inch rabbetted door jambs; and
(6) either the interior stair termination at the third floor is enclosed with a solid core door set in solid wood jambs as described in subsection (o)(5) of this section, or a balcony is provided at the third level with a minimum depth of three feet perpendicular to the exterior building wall.
(Prior code § 67-4; Amend Coun. J. 12-21-84, p. 12140; Amend Coun. J. 10-2-95, p. 8040; Amend Coun. J. 10-28-97, p. 54731)
“No one else seems to have pointed out that the only visible closet in the MBR (maybe there’s another), seems to be blocked by the night-table?”
Floorplan shows two closets in the MBR, so I’m guessing the blocked one is deep storage or just a (poor decision) staging thing.
@anon(tfo)
word of the day: genuflect
@anon(tfo):
Yup that split 2 bdrm was an amazing 1600 sq. ft. so that would explain the two exits
“Anything over 1200 sq. ft.
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I did walk through the previously listed unit. These units are SHORT on in unit storage / closet space. I would think that you would end up chewing up some of your usable space with an armoire and the closet would be more for storage.
I think some of the units come with additional storage space somewhere in the Crilly Court complex.
It sold for more than 2007? I’m mad! No fair! Didn’t the buyers get the memo that the world is in the crapper?
Hmmmmmm.
Proof that plenty of suckers and their money are still together.
The urban blight that is currently decimating ELP hasn’t made it’s way this far south yet, so they have that going for it. Although North and Wells is *sketchy* and getting worse.
lol@ North and Wells being ‘sketchy’
As an architect, this building and neighborhood is a great case study of what people want. Jane Jacobs would understand why this historic complex is so popular, even without parking, in that it is a building that is part of the neighborhood, instead of setting apart from it (think of some of the towers nearby that are not so popular, AND have parking and views). Many people want to live close to the street and not 48 floors above where they cannot even make out the faces of those passing far below. The rear courtyard calls back to European semi private enclosure not usually seen any more in American cities and reminds me of a rear courtyard outside of my apartment when I lived in Rome as an architecture student on my year abroad before thesis. Although this unit is not for me, I know people who live in Crilly Court who talk about the feeling of “community” they enjoy there that is absent in most highrise projects.
“The urban blight that is currently decimating ELP.”
Chicagbull, this is a recent beef of yours. First the day after Halloween and again today. I seem to recall you being fan of ELP (but perhaps I’m confusing you with someone else). Were you mugged recently? Car broken into? Seedy folks renting next door? Your ex dating someone in ELP?
I certainly (and sincerely) hope it’s none of the above. But I’d love to hear some specifics regarding the “urban blight” that is “decimating” ELP. (I’ll assume that you don’t actually mean that this alleged urban blight is reducing ELP in some respect in increments of 10%.)
I guess it’s still too early for the rest of the posters to think about the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw “Crilly Court” and “No parking with unit”:
WHAT’S THE SNOW-REMOVAL SITUATION LIKE?
Is this a “priority” street for the plows?
If the owner parks on the street, will s/he have to dig out of 3 ft. of plower-made snowdrifts?
Will he/she then have to have plenty of old chairs at the ready, in the great Chicago tradition?
“Is this a “priority” street for the plows?”
OTT side streets as “priority” snow removal streets? Really, that’s a question? Wells in front of the building isn’t a park-and-leave-it option, so that doesn’t matter.
“. Although North and Wells is *sketchy* and getting worse.”
It is getting worse! We have Chipotle now.
4 Corners:
NorthEast: 24 hr Walgreens
NorthWest: 24 hr Starbucks and the new Chipotle
SouthWest: Boston Market
SouthEast: McD
Old Town and Old Town Triangle snow plowing is pretty good.
I think there are some city people (as in work for the city / alderman connected) people live in the area, so the streets are pretty well kept up.
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On a sort of related topic, I actually do get my streets cleaned on schedule during the year and the guys actually do multiple passes.
I presume that chichow is JOKING about the fact that so many busineses in the Old Town shopping district are 24-hours. In my mind that’s a GOOD thing for the most part. It means that for the most part good guys rather than bad guys will be visible on the street. You know, night workers and socializing tourists rather than the local “characters.”
And Second City…don’t forget Second City…that has been a prime “plus” of the nabe for a long time. Just wish That Steak Joynt were still next door.
I was joking in response to ChicagoBull.
I do like the fact that the Starbucks and Walgreens are 24 hrs.
I viewed this development in 2006 during the conversion. It is really well down, I could see the units in the building on this small plot of land doing really well regardless of parking, bad economy, short sales, foreclosures, etc.
You can’t beat location, nice finishes, good layouts, charm, and quaint feel in the heart of the 3rd largest city in the country. I went to a party in this development one evening and the courtyard – patio/balcony scene is truly gorgeous – great vibe.
Anyone know what a 2 bedroom is going for now in Crilly? 425k? 450k?
I understand this unit is under contract. No info on price.