5-Bedroom New(er) SFH in Old Norwood Park Reduces Again: 5692 N. New Hampshire
We last chattered about this 5-bedroom single family home at 5692 N. New Hampshire in the Old Norwood Park neighborhood in October 2010.
See our prior chatter here.
Since then, the house has been reduced another $100,000.
On and off the market since February 2009, it has now been reduced $596,000.
Located in the Old Norwood Park circle, it has all the finishes of new construction but is set amidst an established neighborhood.
Built in 2007, the house has 12-foot ceilings and 5 fireplaces.
There are Brazilian walnut wood floors throughout as well as a 12 seat home theater complete with leather reclining seats.
The kitchen has unique stone work, custom cabinets and onyx counter tops.
Built on an oversized 50×200 lot, it has a rare city 4-car garage with a 600 square foot attic.
Is the lack of a sale on this home signaling that the days of million dollar homes in Old Norwood Park over?
JoAnn Casali at Koenig & Strey Real Living now has the listing. See the pictures here.
5692 N. New Hampshire: 5 bedrooms, 5 baths, 4 car garage, no square footage listed
- Sold in September 1994 for $240,000
- Built in 2007
- Originally listed in February 2009 for $1.895 million
- Reduced
- Was listed in October 2010 at $1,399,900
- Reduced
- Currently listed at $1.299 million
- Taxes of $5540
- Central Air
- Bedroom #1: 24×13 (second floor)
- Bedroom #2: 14×14 (second floor)
- Bedroom #3: 14×13 (second floor)
- Bedroom #4: 14×13 (second floor)
- Bedroom #5: 18×12 (lower level)
Not a single house is under contract in Old Norwood…such high prices, so few interested buyers….these NW side neighborhoods prices have been collapsing, and prices will continue to collapse in the future. All over the NW side there are so many homes listed above the $417,000 plus 20% down payment price, and no one is interested…
“no one is interested”
in this place? heck no!
in the rest listed in the circle? YES sir I am!
The best deal in old norwood sold last week under $500k.
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5757-N-West-Circle-Ave-60631/home/13508920
It’s the size of four lots (albeit short lots) at 100×110; four beds, 2.5 baths, and taxes at $6,300 bucks a year. There’s only been 6 closings in old norwood in the last 3 months, and there are 12 active listings. So there’s technically only 6 months inventory (which is good) but half of those properties are dumps and the other half are price ridiculously.
HD,
surprisingly the yard was very large but because the corner lot two houses looking into your yard. the bedroom’s were dark and windows were i guess you would say squished.
felt like i bi-level layout but all on one floor. (if you been in a bi-level you know what i mean)
still not a “deal” but a good price. a very DIY vibe to the home.
if your going to spend 1.2k in the circle buy this and thank me later with a bbq invite;
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5932-N-Newark-Ave-60631/home/13508754
rememeber they can always make new appliances and new houses but we *cannot make more land
If I had a teenage son I’d definitely be willing to pay a premium for a 600sf attic above the garage.
This house is nice but that awful stone fireplace thing in the kitchen really looks like ass
Your home theater room should also be sealed off from the rest of the basement and house, no reason to have the staircase right there so noise travels all in the house, acoustically thats a terrible plan and that curtain hanging up won’t really do much.
Also, why doesn’t this house have a nice fence around the yard?
And why no front porch or even a small deck in the back, it appears that all those doors in the back of the house would lead perfectly to some outdoor space why juliet balconies there?
Big lot, big garage and big all brick house here still means a million bucks though, my guess this sells around 1.05-1.1 million
do you guys like this neighborhood?
“do you guys like this neighborhood?”
my fave nabe in chicago but i am biased
“Also, why doesn’t this house have a nice fence around the yard?
And why no front porch or even a small deck in the back”
Because the developer blew his wad on ridiculously unique and expensive fixtures and finishes that will not appeal to most people.
It is a great hood to raise a family. Upside is there is good proximity to downtown, O’Hare, Rivers Casino, and shopping.
The downside is close proximity to O’Hare, Rivers Casino, and it is boring.
Jim
What’s the high school in this neighborhood?
“Not much diversity in the hood, but people who like the hood, like it that way.”
That is sad. I wish it wasn’t so hard to find nice, diverse neighborhoods on the northside in Chicago. I don’t want my future children to be the only little brown kids on the block, but I also want new, modern construction with lots of neighborhood amenities, close to a train stop, safety, blah, blah. The pipe dream in my head.
sorry, vent over.
Taft
Its a nice looking house. I was actually pretty interested in the lot next to it to buy and tear down and build. That lot sold I believe for Low 2’s. The reason I didn’t pull the trigger was its on the Kennedy Flight Path into O’hare.
I think if you don’t have to live in the ciy, 1.2M will get you a lot in Park Ridge right now.
Nice place though
“Not much diversity in the hood, but people who like the hood, like it that way.”
Park Ridge may be your ticket. Lots of tear downs. A “little” more diverse than Edison and Norwood.
You want diversity? Move to the wonderful Chicago neighborhoods of Rogers Park and Albany Park, some of the most diverse areas *in the country* with literally scores of different languages spoken, like Babylon or something.
Or, move to the suburbs, which are far more integrated, and are much nicer places to live than rogers or albany park. the town I grew up in the northwest suburbs has all colors of the rainbow, and that was reflected in the student body of its high school, far more so than the segregated area of chicago.
Move to skokie or lincolnwood if you want complete diversity, where you’ll have 10 different languages spoken on your block, and 10 more the next block over.
“househunter on August 22nd, 2011 at 3:38 pm
“Not much diversity in the hood, but people who like the hood, like it that way.”
That is sad. I wish it wasn’t so hard to find nice, diverse neighborhoods on the northside in Chicago. I don’t want my future children to be the only little brown kids on the block, but I also want new, modern construction with lots of neighborhood amenities, close to a train stop, safety, blah, blah. The pipe dream in my head.
sorry, vent over.”
I was thinking Evanston, but we just aren’t ready to leave the city yet. I thought about Rogers Park, but it seems like such a sad neighborhood in the few times I have walked around there. I could be wrong.
Albany Park may be good.
Hyde Park is diverse. And I can’t imagine anyone saying Park Ridge is diverse. I guess it depends what your definition of diverse is.
“You want diversity? Move to the wonderful Chicago neighborhoods of Rogers Park and Albany Park, some of the most diverse areas *in the country* with literally scores of different languages spoken, like Babylon or something.”
There’s “diversity,” then there’s diversity. Rogers Park is pretty blighted (which always amazing me), so I’d hardly consider it a comparable option to other nice areas. As househunter notes, Evanston might be a good choice, as would HP, as betty notes. I can’t say one way or the other, but I’ve heard many people say the same about Oak Park.
That said, other than Evanston, HP and OP, I’d say that Chicago is arguably the most segregated major city in the country. I would love to see the nicest northside hoods become better integrated (i.e., professional, upwardly mobile, family and community oriented folks from a range of races and ethnicities).
actually uptown is the most evenly “diverse” neighborhood in Chicago, and what a disaster that area is
“I’d say that Chicago is arguably the most segregated major city in the country. I would love to see the nicest northside hoods become better integrated (i.e., professional, upwardly mobile, family and community oriented folks from a range of races and ethnicities).”
Good luck getting the blacks and Latinos to integrate their communities and cultures, and you’ll have a very difficult time getting Asians (Koreans, Chinese) to choose to send their kids to the same CPS schools with Latinos and esp. the blacks. I’m not sure Jewish-Chicagoans will move out of their few enclaves and burbs to embrace diversity and CPS. It’s a tough nut to crack, and the aforementioned communities have some work to do.
South Loop is very diverse too. But I have no clue about the school quality.
Yes Dan/Marcus/Luigi all the minorities are the problem and white Irish are the people doing their best for encouraging diversity…lmao
“doing their best for encouraging diversity”
I believe the phrase that pays w/r/t that is “Worship Not These False Idols”, if the broadly held assumption is remotely correct.
anonny: I’d say that Chicago is arguably the most segregated major city in the country.
Allegedly, Milwaukee and New York are more segregated:
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/03/29/most_segregated_cities/slideshow.html
Well not sure Milwaukee qualifies as major. It is a depressing city but has a very nice hotel from old times. If you guys have the misfortune of visiting, try staying at:
http://www.thepfisterhotel.com/
Try east Albany Park, between Sacramento and Kedzie, south of Wilson, north of Montrose. Very diverse and kid friendly
This house really is beautiful on the inside other than the kitchen and master bath. Too bad it is SO ugly on the outside! Groove, I love the house you listed and have noticed it before, but who carpets their master bath and puts a couch and rocking chair in it? Is it a bathroom or a living room? Is the rocking chair so grandma can watch you take a shit?
“Allegedly, Milwaukee and New York are more segregated.”
It didn’t feel that way to me when I lived in NY.
Again, I’m not talking about “diversity” of the sort to which Luigi is alluding (i.e., “getting” racial and ethnic minorities to live in the same crappy neighborhood together and attend the same struggling CPS school together). I’m talking about white people and racial and ethnic minorities who have choices – business owners and professionals with advanced educations – as to where to live, opting to live in the same community.
I lived in what was more or less the LP of Atlanta. While a majority of the residents and frequent visitors to that community are white, a significant number are not. Black and white people eating at the same places, hanging out at the same bars, shopping in the same little shops, in a way that one simply does not see in the nicest areas of Chicago. Unlike Chicago, it has thriving black middle and upper-middle classes. It’s obviously no racial utopia, but despite having a southern history (i.e., one can literally sense the remnants of slavery), I never felt the sort of angst, tension and despair that seem to domminate the racial politics and dynamics of Chicago.
“South Loop is very diverse too. But I have no clue about the school quality.”
School is decent. Dearborn Park II area does seem fairly diverse.
“I’m talking about white people and racial and ethnic minorities who have choices – business owners and professionals with advanced educations – as to where to live, opting to live in the same community.”
Even your defn of diversity is elitist!
Great neighborhood. Great schools. Large lots. Only downside is that the Kennedy is on the landing path to Ohare with flights coming in every 5-10 minutes.
Diversity ?!?
Isn’t there a flash mob for that?
I don’t see how my comment was elitist or muddled. Why is it that a “diverse” neighborhood must be working or barely middle class? Perhaps as life-long Chicagoans you can’t fathom living, working and recreating in the same immmediate vicinity as, say, black doctors, lawyers, academics, consultants, executives, creative types and business owners. Because…gasp…I’ve not always been a Chicagoan, I can fathom such a place.
Again, see my post above as to Chicago striking me as an especially segregated major city. I wonder who is mostly to blame for that, not to mention many of the disadvantages (and dangers) faced by black Chicagoans? My guess: the folks who were running this town when its modern communities, schools and industries were taking shape, and the folks who voted for and supported them (i.e., current life long white Chicagoans – more so the white working and middle classes and less so the “establishment types” (who were up in the burbs) and their parents and grandparents).
“actually uptown is the most evenly “diverse” neighborhood in Chicago, and what a disaster that area is”
galewood is the most diverse (race wise) blue collar stable hood in chicago.
“I wish it wasn’t so hard to find nice, diverse neighborhoods on the northside in Chicago. I don’t want my future children to be the only little brown kids on the block, but I also want new, modern construction with lots of neighborhood amenities, close to a train stop, safety, blah, blah. The pipe dream in my head.”
very easy, move to galewood. its racially diverse, safe, you have oak park amenities and brickyard mall, sorry no new construction but many pretty tudor’s, there is a walkable metra stop, schools are not great but at the HS level all city folk are screwed.
looks like dan/marcus/luigi found a new IP address.
but hey still better than reading a clio or bettyboop post
“Groove, I love the house you listed and have noticed it before, but who carpets their master bath and puts a couch and rocking chair in it? Is it a bathroom or a living room? Is the rocking chair so grandma can watch you take a shit”
LOL just make sure when rocking not to squirt the carpet 😉
“I lived in what was more or less the LP of Atlanta.”
Atlanta is diverse between to cultures of middle and upper class, just black and white the spanish there are pretty much written off as lower class by both races, i will never call atlanta diverse.
and like all cities around the world its segregated “class” wise.
Groove, if you don’t have anything pertinent to post, please show some restraint. Your immature and childish posts are annoying and irritating. It’s amazing that you have a S.O. and scary that you have children.
“Groove, if you don’t have anything pertinent to post, please show some restraint. Your immature and childish posts are annoying and irritating.”
Dr. Asshat,
please take your own advise… ignore/dont read my post.
“I don’t see how my comment was elitist or muddled. Why is it that a “diverse” neighborhood must be working or barely middle class?”
First, please don’t associate me with Luigi etc. Second, I didn’t think you would object to your comment being characterized as elistist. Third, you seemed to me to be saying that the type of diversity that counted in terms of assessing segregation or not is that of “business owners and professionals with advanced educations,” which sounds elitist, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Wow, look what I started. Sorry to hijack the thread!!
Anyway, I kind of agree with this. Having been raised on the east coast in a pretty integrated neighborhood, now that I’m settled, I’m trying to find this utopia in Chicago, since this is where we are now and I don’t see us leaving anytime soon.
Where is my Park Slope in Chicago?!
“I don’t see how my comment was elitist or muddled. Why is it that a “diverse” neighborhood must be working or barely middle class? Perhaps as life-long Chicagoans you can’t fathom living, working and recreating in the same immmediate vicinity as, say, black doctors, lawyers, academics, consultants, executives, creative types and business owners. Because…gasp…I’ve not always been a Chicagoan, I can fathom such a place.”
midtown atlanta? or further up perimeter? equals chicago LP?
midtown atlanta? or further up perimeter? equals chicago LP?
i think he is talking about restaurant row down by centennial something park 😉
I don’t equate any neighborhood in Hotlanta to equal Lincoln Park. There is no lake in Hotlanta for 1.
I can see a slim resemblance to like a Buckhead to a Bucktown or Lincoln Square but that is about it.
buckhead was jumping for a while
He’s talking spitting distance from Piedmont Park, no? Gotta remember that anonny considers anything more than 374.621 feet from the park to be *not* Lincoln Park, so it’s mainly about park access + relatively nearby restaurants/shops, which pretty well means the area NW of Piedmont Park (which is basically Midtown).
but *all those trendy shops in midtown are mainly new and was brought to you via the gay community. so midtown would be more like haslted/boystown? or andersonville?
“so midtown would be more like haslted/boystown? or andersonville?”
A-ville, duh. And it’s shops + restos + short commute + access to park + like minded people.
So A’ville isn’t a good comp, bc it’s too far from work AND too far from the park. Plus, Atlanta (city proper) is enough smaller that it smushes together neighborhoods that in larger cities are distinct, so if it’s part LP, part A’ville, it makes sense.
anon(ufo) your right we are leaving out the transportation portion. so the a-ville comparison is not as great.
the MARTA in atlanta is nicer and quieter and faster than the redline but the buses suck just like the buses in a-ville. so i guess its a bad comp.
Atlanta is nothing like Chicago (I live in Atl all my life before moving here) and I don’t think you can even try to compare the two. Atlanta doesn’t have very many truly walkable neighborhoods. You have little pockets of shops/boutiques but nothing remotely in the same league as a typical Chicago neighborhood where you could survive without a car.
The condo/downtown living in Atlanta is a relatively new thing as well. Buckhead used to be where all the wealthy residents live, but buckhead is really mostly big houses. There are some condo towers too but it is still pretty much glorified strip mall living. Buckhead got played out and all the young folks moved to Midtown which was revitalized by the gay community.
The nice thing about Atlanta though is that there are plenty of areas to live where you actually can buy a relatively nice single family home. You can get a house in all but the best intown neighborhoods for $400-$600k.
“The nice thing about Atlanta though is that there are plenty of areas to live where you actually can buy a relatively nice single family home. You can get a house in all but the best intown neighborhoods for $400-$600k.”
i found of the peeps i know in atlanta none actually live there just work there. and DRIVE everywhere in large SUV’s
Chicago = great city
Atlanta = sucks
Atlanta is a very suburban culture. Many people move outside “Perimeter” which is basically highway 285. We call it the worlds biggest NASCAR track. A highway that circles Atlanta.
Public transportation (MARTA) is pretty much non existent if you don’t live directly on MARTA line and going to the business district or airport. The only people who ride buses in Atlanta are poor people.
Much like Chicago, intown living is challenging because the schools suck, so people move to the burbs if they can’t afford the private schools. The houses in the burbs are big McMansions that are relatively cheap.
This is how much you can get for $1.2m in Atlanta. Virginia Highlands is a great neighborhood in Midtown and has decent walkable streets and boutiques. Only a few blocks from Piedmont Park.
http://www.showing247.com/925ponce/index.html
Chicago = great city
Atlanta = sucks
Can’t disagree
That Atlanta house is completely tasteless, outside and in. Is this typical of the housing there?
““Perimeter” which is basically highway 285. We call it the worlds biggest NASCAR track. A highway that circles Atlanta.”
Pascual Perez!
Come to think of it, the Norwood Park home we’ve been discussing is also tasteless, especially the exterior design, and in the way it takes up most of its lot and dominates the homes on adjoining lots. Maybe some Atlanta transplant to Chicago will find it to their liking.
Pascual Perez – I remember that story. The Braves pitcher was late for a game because he said he got lost on the expressway. He was an oddball. I think his brother Melido pitched for the White Sox.
ROFLMAO… This is what you get down here for US$ 1.2 . And on a shitty street.
Please look at the kitchen oven.. Is that Wolf?
http://www.zap.com.br/imoveis/oferta/Apartamento-Padrao-3-quartos-venda-RIO-DE-JANEIRO-IPANEMA-R-Visconde-de-Piraja/ID-2035202
Damn, Gringo… that’s worse than Manhattan.
Dan, that is just a builder spec house. Most of the houses in midtown are from the early part of 1900s. Tend to be Victorians or bungalows.
Same neighborhood… renovated bungalow. Just $549k.
http://www.showing247.com/960highland/index.html
I prefer Chicago to Atlanta, just because I hate to drive. That is one of the things that is so great about Chicago. The walkability and being able to actually buy a nice single family home in the city that is walking distance to lots of amenities.
That is why I don’t want to live on the south side. Even though Hyde Park has my ideal demographic as far as race and professional diversity, it really isn’t the best for public transportation to get downtown and the amenities do not compare to say a Lincoln Square or LP.
That’s a nice listing Russ. And yes, I consider the Virginia Highlands to be the LP of Atlanta. Were I to return there to live (which I have no plans to do), I’d live there (or Druid Hills, etc.). And I’d be blissfully obvlivious of the distant suburban traffic-jammed sprawl that most folks with little to no experience in Atlanta associate with that city.
Anonny. Same here. If I were to move back about the only hoods I would consider are Virginia Highland, Morningside, Inman Park. Decatur around Agnes Scott would also be high on my list.
Much better, Russ. Thanks.
The only thing that tempts me about Atlanta is the mild winters.
Why would you buy the subject house, when you could have this:
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Oak-Brook/306-Midwest-Club-Pkwy-60523/home/12559444
The steal of the century in oak brook. Obviously the seller just wanted a quick sale
OR this:
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Hinsdale/444-Fuller-Rd-60521/home/18033537
The steal of the century in Hinsdale. You can’t tell me this isn’t a beautiful house for the money- irreproducible at this price.
Oak Brook is not comparable to Old Norwood. Hinsdale is not comparable either. This is city vs. burbs discussion.
You can compare Old Norwood to Edgebrook or Wildwood or Sauganash or even on a stretch Park Ridge but you can’t compare it to Oak Brook.
Sorry Pal
Agree Lunker, but just wanted to show some of the myopic people on this site that there are much better properties in much better areas with much better school districts in the suburbs. Just wait – you are going to see a mass exodus of people from the city (the outlying areas like this, Avondale, Edgebrook, sauganash, wicker park, west town, bucktown, uptown, ravenswood, andersonville) to the suburbs in the next 5 years
o on August 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Agree Lunker, but just wanted to show some of the myopic people on this site that there are much better properties in much better areas with much better school districts in the suburbs. Just wait – you are going to see a mass exodus of people from the city (the outlying areas like this, Avondale, Edgebrook, sauganash, wicker park, west town, bucktown, uptown, ravenswood, andersonville) to the suburbs in the next 5 years
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Doubt it. Do you realize how convenient a city neighborhood like Old Norwood is?
You have easy access to Metra, Blue Line, O’Hare, Downtown, 90, 294, 94.
That neighborhood has always held its value over the years due to the location and the requirement for city employees to live in Chicago.
Recommend you take a drive though Old Norwood. It really is a nice neighborhood with great parks.
Schools is not an argument in the city. The burbs have way better schools but you pay for it in your taxes.
Lunker,
you will never be able to explain “the circle” to him. and its best not to hype it to people like him or we will get more of this type of new construction built.
there are only 5 mcmansions built in the circle and 3 of the five sold in foreclosure. as reason for that as more expensive quailty old homes sold before the ugly brick beasts.
thing with taxes is you always have to pay them even when your kids are in college or long gone with thier own family. Private HS you only have to pay for 4 years.
http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5909-N-Newark-Ave-60631/home/13507559
Agreed Groove77!
you see the one on Neva? small than your but ugly as heck sat vacant for years. i think someone scooped it up cheap.
there was a new construction on Nina across from the school park, it was done somewhat tasteful in respect to the hoods house type. It was sold dirt cheap in foreclosure i think.
few houses down on Nina they are building a new house on a lot vacant lot thats like 50×375 !!!
Clio that Hisdale house is very grandma and not even a very sophisticated one. Not that I can afford it, but I doubt even my parents would like it.
That one on Nina sold for $850K or so
The Lot went for High 2’s. Like 290 or something.
Its a tough lot to build on due to the depth. You need to put up a big house to take advantage of the LOT size and the landscaping bill will be huge. I think that its a tough project.
“You need to put up a big house to take advantage of the LOT size and the landscaping bill will be huge.”
Two yurts and some goats. Perfect!
“Two yurts and some goats. Perfect!”
Oh the tax advantages!!!!
“Its a tough lot to build on due to the depth. You need to put up a big house to take advantage of the LOT size and the landscaping bill will be huge. I think that its a tough project.”
the craziest thing is power lines disect the back yards there about 150 feet deep from the lot line. and there was a oddly placed tree about 100 feet back and another on the right side 75 feet back. (eyeball estimates).
i count only three houses with curb cuts (might be wrong) but this is one street where all should have driveways and attached garages. cant imagine even with a radio flyer parking in the garage and trekking groceries back and forth on a 400ft deep lot.
“Two yurts and some goats. Perfect!”
LOL 🙂