Bucktown Cottage With Our Favorite YouTube Video Closes: 2343 W. Moffat
Everyone seemed to enjoy the YouTube video which highlighted this vintage Bucktown cottage at 2343 W. Moffat when we chattered about it in February 2009.
See our prior chatter, pictures and the video link here.
It closed in early April for $137,900 under the original list price.
Is the new price norm for a small Bucktown house now under $500,000?
Here’s its history again.
2343 W. Moffat: 3 bedrooms, 3 baths, 1504 square feet, 2 car garage
- Sold in August 1988 for $51,000
- Sold in September 1994 for $85,000
- Sold in April 2002 for $251,000
- Originally listed in January 2009 for $617,900
- Reduced
- Was listed in February 2009 for $579,900
- Closed in April 2009 for $480,000
- Taxes of $7069
- Central Air
- Heated floor in the master bath
- Skylights
- Bedroom #1: 14×11
- Bedroom #2: 15×11
- Bedroom #3: 11×7
- Evan Kane at Weichardt Endeavor Realty had the listing.
This was a cool little place but location challenged. They did regular price cuts, with the final list at $499,900.
On a different note, we finally completed our latest market update on Chicago and a number of neighborhoods: http://blog.lucidrealty.com/2009/04/16/chicago-condo-inventory-worse-than-it-looks/
At the bottom are links to various neighborhoods. Inventory is up but not as much as you’d expect, given that sales are about half of last year’s level. Lots of listings expiring or being canceled has cut the inventory.
We never determined how the sellers financed the renovations. IIRC there was no cash out refi, so it was either cash or credit cards.
Not a bad deal for the buyer. It does not matter to them how much the seller put into the place.
Not a bad deal but not a good deal either. $480k for a small house – regardless of renovations – in a sketchy neighborhood is cali style pricing. We still have a ways to go down.
Very true HD. All the 480k close price showed is that a fool and his money are soon parted.
I’m guessing only 48k (10%) down. But at least the new owner now has some street cred with the folks back in the suburbs.
Kudos to the seller though, great strategy. Ask a Fing redonkulous price and get something 140k cheaper but still Fing ridiculous.
I looked at this house right before it went under contract. It is is in a good neighborhood, close to the L. I hate when people on this blog say neighborhoods are bad without knowing the neighborhood. Sure, its not the best street in bucktown. But not every house can be on the best street in Bucktown. The house was just really small. Small rooms. Fabulous kitchen. There’s a slightly bigger house across the street for $100K more. I’m sure it will come down a little. The second they make a 10% reduction…it will sell.
fyi, you cannot get a place for less than 15% down today. at the end of the day, there is very little difference between paying a mortgage of 480k and 400k when you look at what it costs the owner in monthly payments. when you find a place you like, the dollar amount doesn’t matter. the neighborhood is up and coming and will absolutely maintain its value. the market may be crap, but there is also a lot of crap on the market. to find a cute place is a rarity. that being said, i looked at this place and it does need a lot of work, but the frame is there and will probably provide the new owner with a happy home.
I actually took a look at this place. I don’t think this cottage establishes the price for Bucktown cottages for several reasons.
1. The specific block this cottage is on is not very good. It’s noisy due to it’s proximity to Western and is not very residential feeling.
2. It is on a short lot, only 100 ft deep with no back yard.
3. It has a very short basement, less than 5 feet tall I’d estimate.
There was another cottage that looked interesting and actually had only 2 bedrooms that sold for 660k I believe. 2133 W. Walton. Less bedrooms but bigger lot, has a basement and better block.
Someone linked to a story of a rape that occurred in the gangway 2 houses down. I can move to other areas of the city with SFH houses that cost substantially less than $500k and not have to worry about ghetto a$$ hoodrat rapists prowling the street outside my small $500k cottage. Not the best block is an understatement.
Yeah but you won’t be the envy of the service sector, tattoed and pierced MTV2 GenX and Yers that hang around here. You do want some Wicker Park street cred don’t you? “Authentic”, man.
I think its too hilarious the idiots that live in WP claim that LP and LV is yuppieville when they have the same bozos overpaying ridiculous prices for real estate. What will this thing rent for 2k? 480k for a 5% rental yield? LOL. Good luck buyer.
Hey at least in LP and LV I can get a beer for $1 at the tavern, not pay the same $3 that they charge in WP and every suburb.
abc, where are you coming up with this 15% nonsense. I was just approved for a place and I’m only putting down 10%. I was also offered another 10% mort. to get me up to 20% if I would have wanted it.
As for WP or Bucktown being labeled as “up and coming”, when the hell is that going to stop?! It has been “up and coming” for 15 years!
abc likes to “MAKE SHIT UP”
how does it feel to take your aggression out on crib chatter?!
abc is an idiot… big time… hey dumbass, they put a lot of work into upgrading this place, what exactly needs to be “worked on”
15%? hah that’s funny I just bought a house a few weeks ago with 3.5% down!
It feels good. It is obvious to anyone who knows anything about real estate that 15% is a completely made up number.
The cutoffs for various downpayments are: 20%, 10% with second mortgage or PMI, 0-10% (largely unavailable anymore, most lenders required 5% though), 3.5% for FHA and 0% for VA. And FHA is not available on all properties either and you need to be a veteran for VA.
Bob where are these $1 beers in LP?
CH,
Sunday – Kelsey’s
Monday – Trinity, Crossroads Public House (75c), Joe’s Sports Bar (25c)
Tuesday – Chi Town Tap? if not Big City Tap (Lakeview)
Wednesday – Duffy’s
Thursday – McGee’s
Friday – Chi-Town Tap
You are welcome.
Correction: Joes 25c is on Tuesday. So there all bases covered in LP proper six days a week.
abc’s reference to 15% down may have been his/her particular experience when attempting to obtain financing in recent times. it is different for everyone right now when it comes to financing. the essence of abc’s statement should not be lost. it is fine to spend a little extra cash on a home that you love even if the market may dictate a slightly lower price. your home is more than an investment. prices may very well continue to tumble, but who is to say that the one place you love will not get scooped up by another potential buyer? And Sonies, are you telling me that a place that has been “significantly upgraded” may not need work? I saw this place and it needs “work” despite the upgrades. The renovated master bath is for a dwarf, and the LR/DR arrangement is strange, unless you are into fake fireplaces that take up most of the space. Also, the 3rd BR needs help.
Wicker Park/Bucktown is becoming the next LP. The rough around the edges parts of those neighborhoods are going away, and the yuppies are all there along with the stuff yuppies like, such as expensive boutiques (similar to those found on Armitage and Halstead), crappy mainstream stores (Aldo, Club Monaco), sports bars and expensive sushi restaurants. Big 10 grads and yuppy families are moving to WP and Bucktown as an alternative to LP. By the way Bob, its simple to get a beer for $1 in WP and it also has much better alternatives in the cheap-eats category vs. LP. You no longer get street cred for WP…to get that you need move to move to Garfield Park, now thats street cred.
When I lived in Lincoln Park there was a serial rapist active in the area.
HD – You continually prove to have your head so far up your own ass that you cannot see the landscape. Seriously – do you live in Plainfield? What do you know about real Chicago neighborhoods?
“homedelete on April 17th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Someone linked to a story of a rape that occurred in the gangway 2 houses down. I can move to other areas of the city with SFH houses that cost substantially less than $500k and not have to worry about ghetto a$$ hoodrat rapists prowling the street outside my small $500k cottage. Not the best block is an understatement.”
There are dollar beers available in Bucktown/Wicker Park as well.
Personally, I’d rather work a bit harder and drink palatable beer though…
Durkins has a nice friday happy hour that includes palatable beers (all drafts)and a buffet. 6hrs of both for 25. where are dollar beers in BT/WP?
Bradford, you lived in Lincoln Park and you’re the one asking me what do I know about real Chicago neighborhoods? That’s hilarious. Too funny. I’ve lived in half a dozen neighborhoods in the city since I was 17 years old.
Nevertheless, I will give you credit where credit is due: You predicted a sale between $450k and $500k and that’s what happened. But even a broken clock is right twice a day. I’m just sayin’.
yeah, no females get attacked in lincoln park or lakeview right? right?
$10 on friday from 6-9 is all you can drink beer & all you can eat food at Kendalls and Kelseys
“but who is to say that the one place you love will not get scooped up by another potential buyer? ”
I am generally bearish but I agree with you on this one chief. Over the past year I’ve seen two unique places I’ve really liked but didn’t have the financing in place. Doubtful that those specific units will come back on the market soon but even if they overpaid I’m still jealous of those two owners.
Exactly my point. I wouldn’t live in either LP or Bucktown, serial rapists and concentrated numbers of Big Ten grads livin’ the college lifestyle are both huge negatives in my eyes.
“When I lived in Lincoln Park there was a serial rapist active in the area. ”
“yeah, no females get attacked in lincoln park or lakeview right? right?
Sounds like HD’s sad that there aren’t any University of Phoenix bars to hang out at in LP.
I encourage everyone to hurry up and snap up the home you love in Bucktown before the neighborhood runs out of houses to sell. There are only 227 homes remaining for sale. The median listing price for a home in this low crime ‘hood is only $563,750!!! This is a bargain, a deal, a steal – considering what these properties will be worth in a few years when Bucktown becomes the next Lakeview (except for the view of the lake). You should snap one up now OR be priced out, possibly forever. Better yet folks, you should snap up an investment property or two while you’re at it. The 44 properties listed at or above $900,000 are going quick! Cottages in this desirable neighborhood go for $480k! Think of what you can get for a million!
http://www.redfin.com/search#lat=41.92111959572856&long=-87.68003940582275&market=chicago®ion_id=32707®ion_type=1&status=1&v=4&zoomLevel=14
Chief J Smoke-a-joint, WP/BT is not the new, nor will it ever be the new LP/LV. the conditions for it to continue to grow the way it did just don’t exist. In fact, I’m sure we’ll see a bunch of the nice places that have been built over the last few years in that hood, make their way to the foreclosure stage… There are vast more amounts of people with money, who prefer to live in “yuppish” areas, than artsy people with money who prefer to live in more edgy neighborhoods. I’m not making a call on social classes, I’m just saying that in general, Money sticks with money. Now that credit is tight and money isn’t as cheap, the real money will stay in LP and LV.
http://www.zipskinny.com/index.php?zip=60647
When a cottage sells for 480k in an area with a median income of $35k and is less educated than the national average, you know something is out of sync.
Only 9% of households in this zip code make six figures. Is this among the top 9% of properties in the WP?
that’s what they said about brooklyn people.
How old are those stats bob, were they from the 2000 census? If so that would make sense since Bucktown was fairly janky back then. I highly doubt that is still the median average income for Bucktown.
Good post bob. The average income(since 1965) to home price ratio is 2.7. So either this household makes 177k yr and wants to live where the average income is 35k or this home is extremely overvalued(I’m guessing by around 100k). Reminds me of all those people buying internet stocks on the way down.
this thread reminds me of a Chappelle skit, ‘haters convention’.
I think Bob walked past the Double Door once and concluded the crowd outside was representative of all BT/WP/UV.
“The average income(since 1965) to home price ratio is 2.7.”
Where? Nationwide? All of Illinois? Metro Chicago? Cook County? Chicago? It’s not very interesting or useful w/o the context.
Not that I necessarily disagree that the house is overpirced–but even at $480k, it’s **less** overpriced than most o/o-apartments … sorry. condos. … around town.
“revassal on April 17th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
this thread reminds me of a Chappelle skit, ‘haters convention’.”
You must be new to Cribhater. It’s like a Statler and Waldorf convention.
“Exactly my point. I wouldn’t live in either LP or Bucktown, serial rapists and concentrated numbers of Big Ten grads livin’ the college lifestyle are both huge negatives in my eyes. ”
Go ahead and tell us where the utopian neighborhood is then. Actually, why don’t you tell us precisely what block you live on. I’d like to critique it.
“Bradford, you lived in Lincoln Park and you’re the one asking me what do I know about real Chicago neighborhoods? That’s hilarious. ”
Reading comprehension is apparently not your forte. Lincoln Park is but *one* of the neighborhoods I’ve lived in.
“Where? Nationwide? All of Illinois? Metro Chicago? Cook County? Chicago? It’s not very interesting or useful w/o the context.”
United states-
http://www.comstockfunds.com/files/NLPP00000/377.pdf
So if the current ratio is 3.68 then this household should earn 132k. If the ratio goes to it’s 45yr average then this same buyer would get a home for 358K.
So just to get back to it’s average a 133k yr household would lose 120k in buying power.
60647 only starts at Bucktown and stretches all the way to Pulaski. The zip code is mostly a shithole and not representative of Bucktown, although I agree someone paid too much for this place.
Look bradford – you started it when you said I had my head up my ass and then accused me of living in Plainfield. You started the ad hominem attacks – because I thought that the neighborhood was a bit sketch. Bucktown may have gentrified but it’s not 100% yuppified yet.
Feel free to answer the questions: What is your Utopian Chicago neighborhoods? Where do you live?
“Bucktown may have gentrified but it’s not 100% yuppified yet.”
The heart of Bucktown has. This is a fringe area–like some of the edges of LP and LV.
“The heart of Bucktown has. This is a fringe area–like some of the edges of LP and LV.”
Is there a questionable “fringe” area of LP that I don’t know about?! LP is surrounded by lake, Old Town, LV, and river (I know those are general boundries, but you get my point).
Cabrini.
the bottom line is that bucktown/wp is a great investment. the area is already strong and getting stronger. signs of new shops, including the reopening of filter (closer to the wicker park side), a new bike shop and various other hip restaurants, indicates that investors know what those of us smart enough to have bought in the area already know. give it time. those of you who havent bought while the prices were still palatable will wish you had.
hold up everyone. the biggest question has yet to go unanswered; whats wrong w/ big ten grads?
Jason R – Chief-smoke-a-lot no agree. plenty of younger people with money are choosing to move to WP/BT over LP/LV…partly because they enjoy the fact that those neighborhoods are as you say “artsy”. The older more established yupps will prefer to stay in LP/LV, but you have blinders on if you do not notice younger yupps taking over WP/BT. The complete gentrification will take much longer than LP/LV for a number of reasons, including those that you raised, but its a happenin babe. Even the old school WP/BT residents notice the trend, I saw several skinny-jean wearing men yelling “Go back to Lincloln Park” at the yuppies sitting in a bar on Division St called the Boundary about a year ago.
Artists seek cheap rents. Cheap rents only happen in sketchy neighborhoods. Thus, when the neighborhood stops being sketchy, it stops being artsy too.
Would you rather be artsy, or not worried about getting mugged? Personally, I prefer the latter option. If that makes me a yuppie, so be it. Street cred and $2.00 gets you a ride on the el these days, and the fact that it’s bestowed by “skinny-jean wearing men” doesn’t make it any more valuable.
No surprise that the people who like $1 beer also think every home on the market in Chicago is overpriced.
amen runnerrunner!
We,
I agree that Bucktown is getting stronger. Unfortunately, the prices that were “palatable” were pre 2003. Most sellers of SFHs in Bucktown’s prime areas today are either holding their homes off the market and hoping for better times or trying to sell at bubble prices. From what I have seen, Bucktown is a popular place to start a family. Once junior hits school age, however, time to say goodbye (or so it was until lately). Lets hope for today’s sellers sake that the school district starts to improve.
I predict that Bucktown will see a further drop in prices as those who got in over their heads during the frenzy are forced to take a hit.
“The bottom line is that bucktown/wp is a great investment. the area is already strong and getting stronger. signs of new shops, including the reopening of filter (closer to the wicker park side), a new bike shop and various other hip restaurants, indicates that investors know what those of us smart enough to have bought in the area already know. give it time. those of you who havent bought while the prices were still palatable will wish you had.”
RunnerRunner: “No surprise that the people who like $1 beer also think every home on the market in Chicago is overpriced.”
Not so, I like $1 beer, but I still got a place, some are stingier/grumpier than others.
Can’t judge a person by what they like, can’t judge the whole Chi re mrkt as overpriced either.
I can’t justify paying home prices artificially inflated for years by bozos bidding with cheap & easy credit. Keep in mind that between 2003 and 2007 virtually anyone could get a 100% financed loan if your score was higher than a 600. You didn’t even need to make the monthly payments if you could flip it fast enough.
However, the financers of those mortgages became insolvent and are no longer around. Many homes buyers and sellers are still stuck in the pre-credit crunch easy financing world but that’s never coming back. This sounds so cliche, but for once, we really are in a new paradigm. Except that this paradigm is really a reversion to the old aka pre-bubble paradigm – but too many are still intoxicated by the kool-aid of the new paradigm that they cannot see what’s happening.
Well said, HD.
Let’s not forget about RN, gold coast and streeterville.
“Now that credit is tight and money isn’t as cheap, the real money will stay in LP and LV.”
“The older more established yupps will prefer to stay in LP/LV”
Hate to feed on this, but…
I live in a nice part of Lakeview – East of Clark, south of Belmont, North of Diversey – and I had a VERY dangerous and scary home invasion about 3 wks ago. My back door got kicked-in by a woman and two men while I was home.
I grew-up in Chicago on the southside (gasp!!!!!) in West Lawn and lived in Bridgeport (smaller gasp!!!) for a few years. I was never a victim of crime until I moved to Lakeview, so I just wanted to dispel some of the stereotypes, etc that go along w/ different “sides” of the city and different ‘hoods.
Btw, I hate WP. Lakeview is at least near the lake. I used to hate WP less when the parking situation was good (way better than LV – now they’re about equal).
KN, HD –
Are you both seriously using one anecdotal data point to extrapolate whether a neighborhood is dangerous or not?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Chicago_violent_crime_map_2006.png
kn –
So, yes, west of the loop and south of the loop are significantly more dangerous than the north side, but West Lawn and Bridgeport do not fall under the dangerous hoods. I don’t recall people on cribchatter refering to those hoods as the dangerous parts of the city – if anything they were referred to as nice, cheaper options in the city for a SFH, but I suppose you think you have street cred saying you grew up on the “south side”.
HD –
Looks like West Town isn’t bad, although areas that get closer to Humboldt Park aren’t the best (confirmed by the more granular map at neighborhoodscout.com).
fullhouse,
I am glad many people have the perception that all of the southside is dangerous. It is going to allow me to get a very nice place there at a steep discount to popular northside ‘hoods.
Seriously you can get a McMansion for 450-550k in these neighborhoods, what does that get you in LP a 3/2 condo?
Def have street cred 😉 I think any person who grew up in the city generally has more street smarts than most.
But no, I am not using one anecdotal story to develop an opinion. In fact, I am currently buying a foreclosure next door to my apt where the incident happened. I was just sayin’. And as another side note, the police (whom I deeply respect by the way) did try to convince me not to file a police report. So, not all crimes go reported.
The last point I’d like to make is that, to me, a dangerous home invasion is not something that I classify as an anecdote. That would minimize it.
Recap of this thread:
“WP/BT ARE the new LP/LV” are too, are not, are too, are not…asshole
“ALL yuppies live in LP/LV and drink $1 beers” (with a detailed list of where to buy said cheap and shitty beers)
“Serial rapists on the loose in LP” – irrelevent as most rapists usually go OUTSIDE of their neighborhoods to commit their acts
Random generalizations of who inhabits the neighborhoods and a description of who they are…and the usual “I am NOT one of those people” so I will never buy in THAT neighborhood.
Guarantees of WP/BT being the newest up and coming neighborhood as evidenced by all the ‘hip’ shops and restaurants/bars there….is it hip to try and avoid stepping in all that hip vomit (end product of all that hippness) getting back to your car?
More bitching and whining about a house being overpriced by people who have no intentions of ever buying a house in Chicago, or probably anywhere else for that matter as their $$$ are going on cheap beers….more degrading of neighborhoods (eewww the ghetto) without basic a understanding of facts and what that neighborhood is all about….I lived here so I know it well…No you didn’t I lived there and this is how it is…more ghetto talk…
And finally the always present “If you have money, the ONLY place to live is in LP” otherwise, don’t buy.
Same shit, different day on Cribchatter.
Somebody’s grumpy this morning…
lol,
bulls, hawks , sox, and cubs: ALL WON! great weekend for Chi-town.
re should spike up because of all the success.
You forgot to add barely coherent ranting.
“I live in a nice part of Lakeview – East of Clark, south of Belmont, North of Diversey – and I had a VERY dangerous and scary home invasion about 3 wks ago. My back door got kicked-in by a woman and two men while I was home.”
KN: Did they run away when they realized you were home? What time of the day did they try and rob you?
Just wondering. I’ve heard from people who live in Lakeview that many thieves strike late on Saturday nights because the home occupants are either out partying (and not home) or home and too inebriated to do much of anything.
Glad you’re okay. Sounds scary though.
No, they didn’t run. I pulled a knife out and was holding it in one hand w/ a big vase in my thowing hand. They backed up out of the door very slowly. I was not even thinking – just acting. I’m very lucky they didn’t have guns.
It was about 8pm on a Sunday night. I typically go to my mom’s for dinner on Sundays, but that Sunday I had gone for lunch, so I was back. Otherwise, I wouldnt’ve been home and would’ve been robbed blind. It could have been much more ugly.
“Cabrini.”
And Lathrop, at the corner of LV and LP. And there are other spots that aren’t “totally yuppified”.
Another way to look at it is that they were very lucky that you didn’t have guns.
I recommend a Remington 870 Express loaded with 00 buck. Other than a pit bull, the best $300 you can spend on home security in Chicago.
“kn on April 19th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
No, they didn’t run. I pulled a knife out and was holding it in one hand w/ a big vase in my thowing hand. They backed up out of the door very slowly. I was not even thinking – just acting. I’m very lucky they didn’t have guns.”
“You forgot to add barely coherent ranting.”
I didn’t forget it, you provide an endless supply quite willingly so no need to point it out.
kn,
Why would the police not want you to file a report? I can’t get over that.
Definitely. Having lived within a couple of blocks of both projects though, I noticed a very distinct difference in the migratory habits of the inhabitants. Cabrini residents travelled all over the area – panhandling near stores at North and Clybourn, kids throwing rocks at cars, B&E’s, etc.
The Lathrop inhabitants mostly stayed West of Damen.
“And Lathrop, at the corner of LV and LP. And there are other spots that aren’t “totally yuppified”.”
Bradford,
With all the restrictions on them here in Chicago, it makes it difficult to use them for defense. The city requires trigger-locks that make it time consuming to get them ready for use. Try fumbling with a key while you have criminals charging you.
Of course if you’re one of the protected classes (police, politically connected) then these nuanced gun laws won’t apply to you. But let CPD find out you don’t have a trigger-lock and see what happens.
SW lakeview has been getting tagged all over the place just over the last year or so… tons of grafitti on all the nice shops and there have been a ton of car breakins in the neighborhood my friend being one victim after only parking for 2 hours.
My car was broken into in LV not long ago, in a lot with video camera surveillance nonetheless. Fortunately the car wasn’t damaged and all they got was a pack of cigarillos. I must’ve left it unlocked though.
Thats why I’d place a premium on garage parking: not only protection from the elements but protection from the hoodrats.
“Of course if you’re one of the protected classes (police, politically connected) then these nuanced gun laws won’t apply to you. But let CPD find out you don’t have a trigger-lock and see what happens.”
The only ones looking to enforce this are the merit hacks looking to brown nose their sugar daddies/mommas.
The real CPD doesn’t give a shit
The City requires trigger locks only for households where a child under 14 could get hold of the weapon without permission. If you don’t have kids, there’s no trigger lock requirement.
They recently tried to increase the age to 18 but the proposal was voted down.
“The city requires trigger-locks that make it time consuming to get them ready for use.”
“The city requires trigger-locks that make it time consuming to get them ready for use.”
Seriously, this is the problem with keeping a shotgun for protection? That you might get a ticket for “forgetting” to keep your trigger lock locked?
Does state law actually permit random checks of the homes of gun license holders? If not, I don’t have any clue how you get written up for that violation, short of accidental discharge.
chief j strongbow said bucktown is becoming LP because it now has
“crappy mainstream stores (Aldo, Club Monaco)”
I love when people think they’re too good for a neighborhood or look down their nose at a group of people because they have the audacity to buy shoes at Aldo or a sweater at Club Monaco. Are you at home weaving your own sweaters on a loom, cheif j? And I’m sure you get all your shoes at some painfully hip place no yuppie would ever enter or maybe YOU’RE super cool because you make NO effort and get everything second hand or because you NEVER buy new shoes.
As the old adage goes, “Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.”
“Seriously, this is the problem with keeping a shotgun for protection? That you might get a ticket for “forgetting” to keep your trigger lock locked?”
Oh hey Danny. No, I buy my shoes at Aldo, Filene’s and Banana Republic once they hit the 75% off sale rack, which I highly recommend. And I do love me a good sweater, like the rest of my gear, its bought on sale from a crappy mainstream retailer. Please let me know if you have any further inquiries as to my fashion sense. My comment that those mainstream stores are crappy does not mean that I do not buy from them, I do Danny, I do, and yes, they are crappy. What I was saying is that the same crappy stores are in both neighborhoods. Is that concept to difficult to comprehend?
Now don’t get your Club Monaco Manpri’s in a bunch…I am sure you look fabulous in them.
CK – no idea. They were fairly persistent, though
Bradford – no gun for me ever, though definitely considering getting a bigger, scarier dog in addition to the one I have.
“kn on April 22nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
CK – no idea. They were fairly persistent, though
Bradford – no gun for me ever, though definitely considering getting a bigger, scarier dog in addition to the one I have.”
I used to say the same thing, then I went to the range with a friend. Firearms can be fun too. Give it a shot some time… (horrible unintended pun :-/)
W Moffat is a bargain street in bucktown. Nowhere else can you be IN real bucktown, crazy close to OHare and downtown transpo, and get a single family home. Sure, being closer to Damen is better and swankier, but that’s why those homes go for hundreds of thousands more. The street is a bit rough, but is improving daily – facades being updated, a new home being built, vacant lots for improvement… There’s also none of the risk of going beyond Western over to “west bucktown”. Bottom line, there’s way more upside here than in the condos ad naseum in LV or South Loop or dumping $$$ into less space in LP and having a huge tax bill to boot.