Bucktown Single Family Home Reduces $44K: 2032 W. Churchill
We last chattered about this 3-bedroom single family home at 2032 W. Churchill in Bucktown in August 2009.
See our prior heated discussion here.
In August, it was priced above the 2007 purchase price but has now been reduced by $44,000 and is now listed under the prior sale.
The house is in a prime Bucktown location, with easy access to the shops and restaurants as well as the El.
Two of the bedrooms are on the second floor and one is in the basement. The kitchen has all white cabinets, appliances and countertops.
Tobi Soraghan at @Properties has the listing. See the pictures here.
(By the way- @Properties has redesigned their website so that it is registration only- and no longer links separately to agent’s properties. So therefore I’m linking to redfin for their listings.)
2032 W. Churchill: 3 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, 2 car garage
- Sold in May 1996 for $218,000
- Sold in August 1999 for $370,000
- Sold in January 2003 for $472,500
- Sold in September 2007 for $585,000
- Was listed in August 2009 at $619,900
- Reduced several times
- Currently listed for $575,000
- Taxes of $6688
- Central Air
- Bedroom #1: 13×13
- Bedroom #2: 12×11
- Bedroom #3: 13×8 (lower level)
- Family room (lower level)
Bedroom #3 and full bathroom #2 are in the basement. If I’m paying over half a mil for a property, the third bedroom better not be in the basement.
I could see a single person living in this house because the only real bedroom (IMO) is the master. The second bedroom on the second floor is oddly shaped and connected to the master bathroom. I’m not sure that it would fit a queen-sized bed. As for the basement bedroom, the ceilings are so low it really isn’t space that you could enjoy. I don’t mind this place – it’s got some potential, but it’s a tough sell. To me, you can get a better place to live for the same price by going with a condo in the area (and I have SFH envy…)
Registration only? Way to alienate potential buyers, guys.
If CribChatter required registration to post, I’d never leave a comment again. The idea is to REMOVE barriers between your visitors and your content, not erect more.
“Registration only? Way to alienate potential buyers, guys.”
What a complete disservice to buyers and to real estate agents that actually want to attract buyers. What in the world would they be thinking? I think realtors are under the general misimpression that by limiting the general public’s access to information realtors become more necessary. In my opinion it just makes their jobs more difficult when everything has to be funnelled through them and also doesn’t fare well for their likeability. Moronic move if you ask me.
I’ve seen a recent move toward this on sites that list MLS data. Apparently its part of the MLS agreement. Even Redfin only shows limited data unless you log in now.
Think about it – if the barriers are removed from the public having access to the MLS, WTF would we need realtards for???
Another thing – this place felt 1544 square feet (if that).
Again, I can’t trash this place because it has some redeeming features (yard, location), but $372/square foot? A bit high still.
“WTF would we need realtards for???”
Keen insight and honest analysis?
“G on November 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Keen insight and honest analysis?”
lol.
below grade, worth zero dollars.
“WTF would we need realtards for???”
Newsflash, you can get public access to the MLS…
Also, we don’t really need realtards all they do is drive up the price of housing for everyone and are middlemen leeches! A good inspector and real estate attorney is all you need. You could find out more about a property in a neighborhood by having a few drinks at the local bar!
You can get direct public access to the MLS without going through a real estate professional/organization who has MLS membership?
Link please.
“Link please.”
I’d like to see that, too.
Geez, I find myself agreeing with the Brad/fords. Next thing you know, I’ll start acquiescing with my wife’s attempts to get more color into my wardrobe.
“I could see a single person living in this house because the only real bedroom (IMO) is the master. The second bedroom on the second floor is oddly shaped and connected to the master bathroom.”
Its my guess that the only way most single people could own here is if they purchased close to the 1996 price.
Just sign up for a Remax account and presto, nationwide MLS access. It even has a nifty map. Don’t worry about them soliciting you either… I had one realtard call me 7 months after I closed on my house! (after looking for 6 months) But if you are worried about that just punch in some fake info.
“Its my guess that the only way most single people could own here is if they purchased close to the 1996 price.”
Or if they laddered up thru multiple properties thru the bubble, like the current owner (apparently single, at least at purchase) did.
I’m going to have a lot of fun watching the owner ladder down, at least with this property.
You all forget: Realtors hold possession of the lockbox keys.
“You all forget: Realtors hold possession of the lockbox keys.”
Thats why you can call the listing agent and have them open the doors and flip lightswitches for you. Do you really need someone to drive you there too?
“I’m going to have a lot of fun watching the owner ladder down, at least with this property.”
Probably you won’t since it’s a couple selling off one of their houses.
You would all be surprised at how little thought marketers and professionals have when it comes to web best practices. I’ve gone through client after client who INSISTS on hiding data and features on their website until someone registers for an account. However, the barriers to sign up for an account are ridiculous. Full name, mailing address, phone number(s), company information, etc!
One of the most difficult parts of my job is convincing people that your website will be more useful and receive more traffic if you 1.) don’t require user registration unless you are providing content very specific to that user and 2.) if you do require registration, make it as easy as possible (ie require only a legitimate email address)
@Properties should think about web and industry best practices.
“Sonies on November 23rd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Just sign up for a Remax account and presto, nationwide MLS access. ”
So yeah, like I said, the public does not have access to the MLS.
“it’s a couple selling off one of their houses”
Well, then, congratulations!
Um anyone with an internet connection can sign up and have unlimited use of the MLS, so besides semantics I would say that the public DOES have access.
The only reason you have to sign up i think is because you can save your searches and have favorites.
’round here we call people with more than one house accidental landlords, or, FB’s.
“Jon on November 23rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
“I’m going to have a lot of fun watching the owner ladder down, at least with this property.”
Probably you won’t since it’s a couple selling off one of their houses.”
Active listings only, Sonies? If not, I would say the public DOES NOT have access.
Sorry, “If so.”
From what I remember, it was Active, & contingent and price drops and new listings… basically all listings (besides by owner) that haven’t closed.
“Active listings only, Sonies? If not, I would say the public DOES NOT have access.”
Of course so, G. Sonies hasn’t seen what full MLS access entails (nb–neither have I) and isn’t thinking thru the implication of what some post here “from the MLS”.
And, of course, a trade group isn’t going to allow non-members free full-access to their database–they aren’t fools.
“’round here we call people with more than one house accidental landlords, or, FB’s.”
It happens when people with their own houses meet and decide to move in together. I’m not sure how that makes you an accidental landlord or an FB (I think I may know what that stands for…)
“Sonies on November 23rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm
From what I remember, it was Active, & contingent and price drops and new listings… basically all listings (besides by owner) that haven’t closed.”
So you are pulling comps how then…?
“So you are pulling comps how then…?”
The Tribune website? I’m sure there’s some other method too
Sonies, I don’t think the MLS issue is up for debate. There is limited public access. What you’re not aware of is that there is significant other information contained in an MLS listing that you cannot access. For example, MLS rules prohibit the public from seeing the listing prices of expired listings so the public, in theory, has no idea what a particular property listed for six months and one day ago.
“The Tribune website? [for comps]”
The Trib website discloses the bed/ba/room count, etc about the sold properties? Where’s that feature hiding?
“Sonies on November 23rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
The Tribune website? I’m sure there’s some other method too”
The Trib website will let you search sales of homes within XX geographical area, with XX bedrooms, XX bathrooms, and XXXX square feet?
Link please.
Ok fine so you can’t get exact comps on sold homes but a little digging around (or asking someone you know who’s a realtard or appraiser) can net you the results you need without paying some idiot 3-6%
lol @ Sonies
sasper,
cool, good perspective from a web developer 🙂 i have lost count in my life of what and where i had to sign up/register, the worst part is i use different passwords for everything so when i go back to a site i always need a password reset which sometimes takes so long i give up on that site.
“the worst part is i use different passwords for everything”
When they are annoying, throw-away registrations, I use my spam-collector account (10+ years old) and an obscene password, so if the admin is paying attention, they know what I think of the reg process.
“and an obscene password, so if the admin is paying attention, they know what I think of the reg process”
nice, i will do the same, and hope it catches on.
@Properties sucks anyway, save yourself money and do it yourself or hirer Gary or Anon (super internet sleuth)
“When they are annoying, throw-away registrations, I use my spam-collector account (10+ years old) and an obscene password, so if the admin is paying attention, they know what I think of the reg process.”
A lot of websites use one way encryption like md5, which is why you get to reset your password on websites instead of having your old one sent to you. No way to know what it is. Although of course there are sites that use two way and the odd idiot who doesn’t encrypt at all. You never know, so it’s good to use a password that is different from your banking, emails and other important stuff.
Use something like the Lastpass plugin for firefox to keep track of everything.
“@Properties sucks anyway, save yourself money and do it yourself or hirer Gary or Anon (super internet sleuth)”
I’d hire Gary for the RE work but anon when I suspect my SO is/was cheating on me.
“lol @ Sonies”
I need to remember that my mind isn’t the sharpest the Monday after a tough Sunday night Bears game. That team stinks so bad they make me drink too damn much!
“but anon when I suspect my SO is/was cheating on me.”
anon wont find anything there, well he wont tell ya cause he will be the one boinking her 🙂
“That team stinks so bad they make me drink too damn much!”
is it the team, or the lovie/turner combo. seriously if i see another wack screen play called i will cry. bring back rivera and the cover 2.
“if i see another wack screen play called i will cry”
Did you see the last minute of LSU/Ole Miss on Saturday? Made me think of the Bears.
“if i see another wack screen play called i will cry”
Did you see the last minute of LSU/Ole Miss on Saturday? Made me think of the Bears.
i heard about it. at least they aren’t getting over 100K to play a game; play the game well.
“at least they aren’t getting over 100K to play a game”
well the LSU players are… not sure about the Ole Miss players 😉
This is where I go to for comps. Has worked pretty good for me.
http://chicagotribune.public-record.com/realestate/search/cook
“Nicoletta on November 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
This is where I go to for comps. Has worked pretty good for me.
http://chicagotribune.public-record.com/realestate/search/cook”
There is no property data. How is that useful?
really bradford? really?
Nicoletta went out of her/his way to provide you with a link and you act like a HUGE TOOL?
“Nicoletta went out of her/his way to provide you with a link and you act like a HUGE TOOL?”
If B’ford were trying to be a “HUGE TOOL”, he would have made a point about good v. well, too, but he didn’t, so he should get credit for his restraint.
“so he should get credit for his restraint.”
so many new people that post here get attacked or mocked and dont come back. kind of sucks 🙁
now if bradford wanted to rip or mock a “old timer” here i wouldnt say anything.
btw; now that SoPo lady that posted needed a good mocking
what b-diddle could have done and still been b-diddle’s toolish way, was to let her know that her link sucked but the said
“Here is what website you should use”
““Here is what website you should use””
Wasn’t that the whole point of the discussion, that there isn’t a good, open alternative to real MLS access?
But I agree about harshing on the newbies.
That was harsh? Really?
***I mean, the link was already discussed in this thread.***
I just don’t see how property addresses with sales prices are in any way useful. Without knowing details on bedrooms, bathrooms, parking, square footage, etc, it’s completely useless.
It was really a simple question. Perhaps there’s some functionality on the Trib site than I’m missing?
it can be useful in high rises if you know the floor plans.
“Groove77 on November 24th, 2009 at 10:11 am
what b-diddle could have done and still been b-diddle’s toolish way, was to let her know that her link sucked but the said
“Here is what website you should use””
Have you not read the thread or are you simple?
“CH on November 24th, 2009 at 10:40 am
it can be useful in high rises if you know the floor plans.”
“CH on November 24th, 2009 at 10:40 am
it can be useful in high rises if you know the floor plans.”
True.
“Have you not read the thread or are you simple?”
the short bus was late and i have not been fitted for my new helmet yet i will get back to you. i will draw you a picture with my safety crayons of me showing you the bird.
brafordism me all ya want just give the newbies some time before ya pounce
“Groove77 on November 24th, 2009 at 11:04 am
the short bus was late and i have not been fitted for my new helmet yet i will get back to you. i will draw you a picture with my safety crayons of me showing you the bird.”
You get a pass because you’re a product of the Chicago Public School System. Society doesn’t expect great things from you, and you’ll provide no surprises.
“brafordism me all ya want just give the newbies some time before ya pounce”
Dude, take a deep breath and release the estrogen cloud. I responded with a simple question. If the poster had read the thread, she’d have seen that the Trib site was already discussed. I can only presume since she mentioned it yet again, that there was perhaps some element of usefulness that we’d missed upon the first pass. What’s the problem?
Actually, I’m digging Redfin’s “properties like these” feature at the bottom of a property page. Has both listings like it and then recently sold ones. Still, not a perfect search but pretty snazzy. I used it to note that 1MM+ SFH are still moving in bucktown/wicker park.
“What’s the problem?”
there are probably many people in the world wide web that can contribute to this site and we can learn from them. I bet most would rather not deal with the Smartazz and derogatory attacks. because of this we miss out on other point of views and knowledge.
“You get a pass because you’re a product of the Chicago Public School System”
thank you, i hope i will be able to use that pass in the future also, i have many more “simple” things that may blow past me.
“Society doesn’t expect great things from you, and you’ll provide no surprises.”
lets go smaller, Bradford what have you done for your community?
now back to coloring in the lines.
“now back to coloring in the lines.”
inSIDE the lines, man. The lines are already colored.
“Groove77 on November 24th, 2009 at 11:47 am
now back to coloring in the lines.”
Don’t bite your tongue.
“inSIDE the lines, man. The lines are already colored”
I will use my “CPS system” pass for that
“Don’t bite your tongue”
already did, blood tastes like pennies
“Bradford what have you done for your community?”
He does Cirque de Soleil re-enactments in his 3000sqft warehouse, err domicile.
bob its 4000sqft and the red socks are dry cleaned every other day.
Why dry clean your socks? Just get new pairs.