High Rise Living with a 1200 Sq Ft Garden with Japanese Maple Trees: 240 E. Illinois in Streeterville
This 2-bedroom in Fairbanks at Cityfront Plaza at 240 E. Illinois in Streeterville came on the market in June 2020.
Built in 2006, the Fairbanks has 281 units and a parking garage. It’s a full amenity building with a pool, an exercise room, and doorman.
It’s also known as the building with the Whole Foods on the base floor.
At 2100 square feet, this unit has 2 en suite bedrooms.
The primary bedroom has a custom built-in Poliform king bed and 2 custom Poliform closets.
The bathroom has a Toto Neorest commode and is fully clad in natural stone.
The second bedroom has a built-in murphy-style bed.
There’s a third room, which is open into the living space and is being used as an office.
The listing says the kitchen is custom with dark cabinets and 4-inch marble countertops and island.
It has a Subzero refrigerator and built-in wine refrigerator, along with a 6-burner Thermador gas stove.
The unit has coffered drop ceilings and wide-board “hardwood” floors (the quotes are in the listing- but why is it in quotes? Are they not hardwoods?)
But the big selling point, especially during the pandemic, is the outdoor space.
This building has unique terraces with trees and this one is no exception.
The listing calls it a “Garden Terrace Home” which measures 1200 square feet and faces south.
According to the listing, it has custom wood flower boxes, mature Japanese maple trees, a custom irrigation system, a winter tree heating system and a Tuuci umbrella.
It also says you can watch the Navy Pier fireworks from the terrace.
From the video walk through of the property, it appears there’s only one other terrace on this level and there are big trees/bushes separating the two spaces.
This unit has central air, washer/dryer in the unit and 2 side-by-side parking spaces are available.
Originally listed in June 2020 for $1.599 million, it has been reduced to $1.275 million.
Do you get the best of both worlds with this unit with trees AND downtown skyline views out your windows?
Niles Patel at CORE Capital Group has the listing. See the pictures here.
Unit #1003: 2 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, 2100 square feet
- Sold in February 2008 for $1,223,500
- Originally listed in June 2020 for $1.599 million
- Reduced
- Currently listed at $1.275 million (2 side-by-side parking spaces are negotiable)
- Also came on the market as a rental in September 2020 for $7950 a month (per Zillow)
- Assessments of $1370 a month (includes heat, a/c, gas, doorman, cable, exercise room, pool, exterior maintenance, lawn care, scavenger, snow removal
- Taxes of $17,366
- Central Air
- Washer/dryer in the unit
- Bedroom #1: 13×14
- Bedroom #2: 12×16
- Living room: 26×17
- Dining room: 10×10
- Kitchen: 12×10
- Den: 9×12
- Laundry room: 4×4
- Terrace: 32×32
Interesting this unit has a premium over the real penthouse units? Only toured units here once and neighbors cooking smells were strong through the common hallways and in the unit so I left pretty quickly. I forget what they were cooking; sorry if you were curious.
Now back to back to the ChICaGo iS HoT delusion.
I’m packing up thanks to the fair tax. I read this anecdote from development I was looking at.
This is more common than the picture you want to paint:
https://www.christopherhomes.com/2020/06/24/covid-19-chicago-couple/
High income self employed people that can leave are leaving CA NY and IL fairly quickly. The ridges of Summerlin, a master planned gated luxury community on the hills in Vegas has seen prices double since 2017 but this year has been on another level. Lot premiums went from 0 in the past to a million in some instances.Toll Brothers and a few other builders are backed up 1-2 years here gave me problems. Agent said it’s most CA and NY residents fleeing but you know Chicagos up to bat after the fair tax.
A $40000 annual property tax in IL is about 12k in Nevada. I’m getting a custom designed and fully decorated 3500 sq ft Blue Heron home built on a premium lot that will be entirely paid for with yearly income+property tax savings. No brainer decision.
I tell you what, the only thing keeping me sane during these times is the copious amounts of sunshine and millions of acres of BLM land and other campgrounds and parks nearby. Soon snowboarding season will start, if it ever decides to friggin rain/snow and at least I’ll have that to keep me busy on winter weekends.
I would probably be suicidal if I was stuck in a 700sqft condo in Chicago with nowhere to go and nothing to do. Seriously what is there to do in Chicago right now? I heard lighthead shut down bars and restaurants again? Can you even go for a walk without the gestapo harassing you?
“Penthouse Garden Terrace Home”
but it’s only on the 10th floor
“Soon snowboarding season will start, if it ever decides to friggin rain/snow and at least I’ll have that to keep me busy on winter weekends.”
I know that your go-to options are Tahoe area resorts, but give some thought to doing a heli experience in the Ruby Mountains (about a 4.5 drive from Reno). I’ve wanted to go for 30+ years, and it’s still at the top of my short list.
“paid for with yearly income+property tax savings”
Subtle way of saying “I have $1m+ annual income”
Gotta love the Realtor-Speak. “nestled on a quiet and secluded cul-de-sac” – lol – its the middle of downtown and 1000 windows have a direct view of the patio.
Did anyone else notice the dog in its kennel in the second bedroom?
I noticed the dog too. The whole unit looks like the amenity room/floor. It’s just missing the pool table.
“the only thing keeping me sane during these times is the copious amounts of sunshine and millions of acres of BLM land and other campgrounds and parks”
You’re talking about the southside of Chicago and Washington Park? you’re calling homeless encampments “campgrounds”? BLM riots keep you sane??
“Gotta love the Realtor-Speak. “nestled on a quiet and secluded cul-de-sac” – lol – its the middle of downtown and 1000 windows have a direct view of the patio.”
Right! Sit out on your deck and listen to the beautiful sirens wailing! Who needs crickets and cicadas? They’re worse.
“Gotta love the Realtor-Speak. “nestled on a quiet and secluded cul-de-sac” – lol – its the middle of downtown and 1000 windows have a direct view of the patio.”
Actually, this isn’t really Realtor-Speak so I will defend this description.
For those who are reading this who aren’t from Chicago, this building is located on an elevated road that is accessed off Michigan Avenue.
It actually IS a cul-de-sac that ends with stairs that go down to the lower level where you can go to the Whole Foods.
As a result, there are few cars that drive in front of this building. All the main traffic drives on the lower level underneath it. And this unit, and deck, are in the front of the building.
There are full sized trees and a mini-park area nearby. There’s also the nice plaza right next to the Tribune Tower. That building is being redeveloped into condos and there may be a huge mega-tower/hotel next to it within the next 5 to 10 years but it’s not there right now and it’s not right across the street.
But other than the rental building next door to this one, there aren’t a “1000 windows” with a direct view of the patio- at least in condos/apartments. The NBC building is down about a block.
Frankly, this exposure in this building has some of the best available light, and privacy, in all of the downtown (for the south view) because the buildings are literally a full block away. Doesn’t mean something new couldn’t be built (and likely will be).
But right now, there aren’t ambulances, fire trucks, police driving down the street with sirens wailing unless they’re coming to this building. Lol.
So, yes, it’s quite pleasant for outdoor space in the heart of the nation’s third largest city.
“You’re talking about the southside of Chicago and Washington Park?”
Again, HH doesn’t live in Chicago. He has no idea what he’s even talking about.
Some of the best parks in Chicago are on the south side.
Is that a joke about moving to Las Vegas? I get that taxes are lower, but really? Las Vegas? Ugh.
“I would probably be suicidal if I was stuck in a 700sqft condo in Chicago with nowhere to go and nothing to do. Seriously what is there to do in Chicago right now? I heard lighthead shut down bars and restaurants again? Can you even go for a walk without the gestapo harassing you?”
Oh my god! Not the gestapo!!!!
Here in Chicago, we wear our masks so there’s little “harassment.” We realize it stops the spread and protects those in grocery stores, restaurants and the drug store if we’re wearing a mask.
Give me a break Sonies.
Your life in Chicago must have been a hell of a boring life. Damn.
That person “stuck” in a 700 square foot condo in Chicago can hop on the train, rent a zipcar, or drive their car and be in a national park in an hour and a half. Can you do that in Reno? Um…no.
If you have a car, other things I recommend in and around Chicago:
1. Drive out to see the buffalo at the Midewin National Tallgrass Prairie.
2. Rock Cut State Park in Rockford
3. Morton Arboretum in Lisle
4. Chicago Botanical Gardens (via car OR metra)
Within Cook County, there are 70,000 acres and 350 miles of trails in the Forest Preserve. The Chicagoland area rocks in terms of bike and walking trails. They all aren’t just along the lakefront.
https://fpdcc.com/places/
This winter, if you need to get out and we get enough snow, the Lemont location, with the nature center, rents cross country skis and has cool trails (not sure what they’ll do with the rentals this year, however, with COVID. Might not happen.)
The Klehm Arboretum in Rockford also plows its trails in the winter. It has a nearly 2 mile loop in the forest. That site used to be a tree farm before the family donated it.
The Lincoln Park Zoo is still open but if covid continues to surge, that will likely close as it did in the spring.
Some of the parks will have new restrictions if it gets really bad again. You have to stay alert before heading out.
And just think, if you lived in Paris, yes, you’re “stuck” inside your 500 square foot condo in the Marais for the next month. With a curfew.
We’re all in this together.
“High income self employed people that can leave are leaving CA NY and IL fairly quickly.”
It happens.
At the same time, a $9.5 million home just sold on the North Shore. So someone is sticking around.
It IS hot. Sorry that the actual data doesn’t convince you.
As you’ve noticed, new home sales are on fire. Toll Brothers is raising prices weekly. Their hottest housing market? Boise.
Good luck where you’re moving to. The country is big. Lots of places to live that are wonderful. That’s the American Dream. Don’t stay where you’re not happy or can’t find work or hate the weather.
America is blessed with every type of weather, different cities and beauty.
“Is that a joke about moving to Las Vegas? I get that taxes are lower, but really? Las Vegas? Ugh.”
Montana doesn’t sound any more appetizing Dan #2.
Did you read the Washington Post article about Californians and NYers fleeing there?
Subdivision heaven. Yuck.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/coronavirus-montana-escape-property-gold-rush/2020/10/20/9e36e858-0340-11eb-a2db-417cddf4816a_story.html
Also, ironically, many thought they would “flee” the big, bad city to escape COVID but COVID has now come to all the rural areas. The outbreaks are larger there and they don’t have the hospital capacity to handle it.
“drive their car and be in a national park in an hour and a half. Can you do that in Reno? Um…no.”
Yeah, the closest one is a whole 2:30 away. And the next closest is 3. And that’s Yosemite.
How far is the second closest National Park to Chicago? 4:30 (and it’s Gateway Arch); 3d is 5:30 to fricking Cuyahoga Valley, then 6 to Mammoth Cave, 7:30 (Isle Royale), 9 to Great Smokey, 9:30 to Voyaguers, 10:30 to Hot Springs.
What’s 10:30 from Reno? Yellowstone. Grand Canyon. All 9 national parks in California are closer than those two, as are most of the Utah NPs (Arches and Canyonlands are about 11, per google–I’d drive it in ~10).
“ Montana doesn’t sound any more appetizing”
Good, please stay away, there are enough parasites out there already.
“ 1. Drive out to see the buffalo at the Midewin National Tallgrass Prairie.
2. Rock Cut State Park in Rockford
3. Morton Arboretum in Lisle
4. Chicago Botanical Gardens (via car OR metra)”
These are 4hr visits. Starved a Rock should have been on the list as it’s one of the better state parks
You have to be a complete hater to compare these to the opportunities out West
@helmethofer:
“…You are the interloper, jut like all the antifa white femcunts transplants in NYC who think they’re more NYC than Donald J Trump from Queens! LOL.
You’re wrong. You will hear sirens from the subject property. Hate to break it you but no Chicagoan goes to “Forest Preserves” but homosexuals and satanists and the newly arrived Mexicans…”
Longtime CribChatter reader, first time poster. I honestly hope you’re simply trolling here. I mean, weird hobby and you’ve picked a very marginal set of eyeballs on which to ply your wares. But hey–your time is your time and use it however you like.
If what you wrote above is sincere–if that’s really what you believe, language you regularly use–then I feel real sadness for you. And you do not represent or reflect in any way the Chicago we love.
“That person “stuck” in a 700 square foot condo in Chicago can hop on the train,”
Are many of you riding the trains these days? I used public transport for years in NYC, Chicago and, up until March of this year, commuting between Boulder and Denver. I hardly ever minded it, and here at least, most of the time I actually liked it. But I have no intention of getting on a train or bus for the foreseeable future.
“That person “stuck” in a 700 square foot condo in Chicago can hop on the train, rent a zipcar, or drive their car and be in a national park in an hour and a half. Can you do that in Reno? Um…no. ”
lol what? I’m an hour from lake Tahoe one of the most beautiful places in the entire US. Not to mention the half a dozen other national forests/parks nearby, are you seriously trying to compare the nature in the Chicagoland area to Nevada/Northern California? Fucking LOL – I’m less than a 5 hour drive to Yosemite!
And we have car rentals, uber, zipcars, bus transit, all the same shit you rave about other than light rail.
“Within Cook County, there are 70,000 acres and 350 miles of trails in the Forest Preserve. The Chicagoland area rocks in terms of bike and walking trails. They all aren’t just along the lakefront. ”
wow 70,000 acres!
Washoe County manages over 12,000 acres including over 10,000 acres of open space, 49 parks, an Arboretum, developed trails, trailheads, athletic fields, golf courses, a campground, a shooting facility, an archery facility, a museum, and so much more! Not bad for a county with 10x less population
And that is just the stuff they manage, 67% of Nevada is BLM land – 48,000,000 million acres! Which is owned by the American people and you can do whatever you want there! FREEDOM BABY
@Anon
I moved from Chicago to LA and the exodus out of LA is growing. High taxes, high cost of living and a useless governor who does lord knows what with the budget for homeless assistance and fire prevention. I heard that some insurance companies are threatening to stop insuring homes in some areas if the state doesn’t become more proactive with fire prevention.
LOL – the forest preserves around Chicago (yes, even the Cook County, Palos is unbearably crowded, Lake County is even worse) have been packed during covid. Luckily there are state parks that are avoided farther out. Yeah, I’m sure you can have a nice walk out on BLM land in Nevada through the desert or dry forest, but you aren’t near Chicago or our food and water resources.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens to all the people who “fled” to far flung places once they have to return to the office (and eventually, they will, to some degree). Will they have the pull to relocate their offices close to them or will they have to get a pied de terre close to their office? I’m looking forward to the post-covid research on who was more scared of it and relocated or hunkered in their houses vs those who lived their lives with precautions.
The smart moves are to the suburbs where there are more “new models open” signs than I’ve seen in a long time all over the metro area, south to north.
“but you aren’t near Chicago or our food and water resources.”
ummm we get our water from lake tahoe which
“contains an average of 37 trillion gallons of water. That’s hard to imagine, but it is enough water to cover a flat surface, the size of California with 14 inches of water.”
and we’re also literally next to the central valley which despite
“Using fewer than 1% of U.S. farmland, the Central Valley supplies 8% of U.S. agricultural output (by value) and produces 1/4 of the Nation’s food, including 40% of the Nation’s fruits, nuts, and other table foods.”
not to mention being closer to the coast means actual good FRESH seafood rather than the garbage that gets flown into ohare every day
And why live in the Chicago suburbs? Suburbs are identical pretty much no matter where you are, why not live somewhere where the weather is nicer and the cost of living more affordable, less traffic, the government less corrupt, and your tax bills much lower?
Do you guys all go to the same middle school?
“And why live in the Chicago suburbs? Suburbs are identical pretty much no matter where you are, why not live somewhere where the weather is nicer and the cost of living more affordable, less traffic, the government less corrupt, and your tax bills much lower?”
Suburbs of the major cities are pretty much the same. Agreed.
Living in Palo Alto is like living in Naperville. Actually, Naperville is nicer.
But does living in the suburbs of San Francisco solve your problems? Weather is “better” (depending on what floats your boat) but less traffic, more affordable, lower tax bills isn’t true.
Suburbs of secondary cities aren’t the same as suburbs of primary ones. No independent movie theater, usually. No professional sports. Fewer concerts/entertainers. Fewer major universities so less intellectual discourse/museums. Fewer things like botanical gardens and zoos.
And the airports suck.
I’ll take O’Hare over Reno any day. But then, I travel internationally so Chicago is perfectly positioned for the globe.
But the country is big. Different things for different folks. Different wants and needs.
“Not to mention the half a dozen other national forests/parks nearby, are you seriously trying to compare the nature in the Chicagoland area to Nevada/Northern California?”
No, sonies, I’m not trying to compare the nature of Chicagoland with Nevada and Northern California. You did. You basically said there was nowhere for Chicagoans to go during the pandemic when there is a f*cking National Park less than 90 miles away where you can take a train, get off, and walk to the entrance.
So quit saying there’s no beauty or nature in Chicago. Chicago and all of Cook County actually has one of the most extensive park systems of any major city.
And yeah, I’ve been to Tahoe several times. It IS beautiful. Fantastic. So is the Dunes. So is the Tallgrass Prairie. And on and on.
The entire country is beautiful. And all of us are out in it thanks to COVID.
“Are many of you riding the trains these days?”
Sure. I’ve been on Metra, the L, and the buses. Numerous times.
Metra is great. Few on there and double decker so you can socially distance. Because of the conductors, everyone wears a mask the entire trip.
The El is more iffy. Most wear masks. Occasionally you get some who wear it down by the chin. Hard to socially distance as more people are taking it now. But it’s been a few weeks since I was on it. With cases spiking again, people might be getting cautious again.
Buses are usually pretty crowded but there’s capacity limits. Everyone is wearing masks (because of the driver being there.) If the bus hits capacity, they will drive past you and not stop, which sucks.
Water taxis are suspended until March because there wasn’t enough demand so no worries there.
“You have to be a complete hater to compare these to the opportunities out West”
I lived in California JohnnyU, so I get it. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I wasn’t comparing. Sonies was. And talking about the “horror” of being stuck inside a 700 square foot apartment during COVID.
None of us are stuck JohnnyU. None of us. We can go see living Buffalo. We can walk amongst the trees in beautiful forests. We can go to a National Park on the train and be there in an hour and a half.
Gosh.
We’re soooooooo deprived. There’s only beauty out West.
It’s bullshit, and you know it.
There’s a reason Chicago is the third largest city in America. Built on a swamp. But it’s got great museums, the best architecture in the country (as we had to build our own beauty), and the best universities in the world.
And then add on millions of immigrants who just want to live the American Dream.
Oh- and fresh water.
Yeah- I’ll take it.
“Yeah, the closest one is a whole 2:30 away. And the next closest is 3. And that’s Yosemite.”
Reno to Yosemite in 3 hours?
WHUT????
Maybe if you fly.
Fact is anon(tfo), sonies acts like there’s nothing in or near Chicago when there’s a National Park closer than to Reno.
So we’re not deprived little animals stuck in our hovels with no way to get out.
Give me a break.
All of you are morons.
“If what you wrote above is sincere–if that’s really what you believe, language you regularly use–then I feel real sadness for you. And you do not represent or reflect in any way the Chicago we love.”
Everything Helmethofer says is “sincere.”
He’s racist, sexist, homophobic, anti-Semite.
Want to add other labels? Feel free.
And yes, he’s been banned many times from this site.
He doesn’t live in Chicago. Never has.
Why would you live in a city you hate and can’t stand? Who would DO that? Unless you’re in jail, it’s a free country. Plenty of places to be. No reason to hate and complain and be bitter every day of your life, right? Can you even imagine living like that Brian? Who would WANT to?
I agree with you. It IS so sad.
“not to mention being closer to the coast means actual good FRESH seafood rather than the garbage that gets flown into ohare every day”
In Reno?
Reno isn’t near the coast. They’re flying it in there too.
I used to laugh about seafood even in San Francisco because there was still a Long John Silvers in the suburbs.
“None of us are stuck JohnnyU. None of us. We can go see living Buffalo. We can walk amongst the trees in beautiful forests. We can go to a National Park on the train and be there in an hour and a half.”
If seeing penned Buffalo is your thing, awesome. I mean you could just go to a zoo. But lets not act like you’re the Black Hills/Custer State Park/TR National Park.
Let me know your top 5 Forests around Chicago
“I lived in California JohnnyU, so I get it. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
No one cares, it doesnt give you any credibility/ PS the west is more than Cali/SF
“We’re soooooooo deprived. There’s only beauty out West.
t’s bullshit, and you know it.”
See this is your typical strawman
The FACT is that if you like outdoor recreation, Chicago sucks. The opportunities to Hunt, Fish, Camp, Hike are terrible
And honestly the only outdoor activity I would rate Chicago highly is sailing
I agree it has world class museums
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RE: “Are many of you riding the trains these days?”
Yes, they’re fine. 99% of CTA riders wearing a mask and being aware of social distancing. This pertains to my riding on the north side, mostly on the brown line. My couple forays on the south side were more people and less mask-wearing. Metra has been good.
CTA bus is different. Some seem too crowded, drivers will skip stops to avoid picking up more passengers. Most are wearing masks and trying to distance as much as possible given a bus layout.
I am actually shocked that the dunes is a National park… been there a few times and never thought, wow amazing this should be a national park! What an embarrassment, it literally abuts a shitload of steel mills! I guess it was announced recently in 2019 that its a national park… LOL so technically you are correct. Reno is next to 3 national forests where I spend most of my time anyway.
“Reno to Yosemite in 3 hours? ”
yes sabrina… the outer edges of the park at least… are you confusing Reno and Vegas by chance?
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Reno,+Nevada/Yosemite+National+Park,+California/@38.690822,-119.7653794,9z/am=t/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x809940ae9292a09d:0x40c5c5ce7438f787!2m2!1d-119.8138027!2d39.5296329!1m5!1m1!1s0x8096f09df58aecc5:0x2d249c2ced8003fe!2m2!1d-119.5383294!2d37.8651011!3e0
As for your airport comment yes, you are correct from Chicago you can get direct flights anywhere. I don’t fly all that much, maybe 5-6 times a year in a non covid year so I really appreciate the 15 minute traffic free drive and subsequent 5 minute wait in the TSA security line compared to O’Hare. I love picking people up from the airport that come and visit me because it sooo easy! Worth having to deal with connections IMO. Lots of direct flights to major cities including Chicago though! Anyway, enough about my small town.
“Reno to Yosemite in 3 hours?”
Yosemite is a big park–far more than just the lower valley. Tioga Pass gate is 150 miles from downtown Reno. And US-395 is a helluva lot more scenic than the Indiana Tollway.
So, yeah, Reno to Yosemite in 3 hours.
But, yes, probably only for another week or two until May-ish. Altho once CA-120 closes, sonies can go skiing even closer–where is there to really ski within 3 hours of Chicago?
Devils Head in Wisconsin is probably the best spot and thats about 3 hours 🙂 If no traffic, lol
“Devils Head in Wisconsin is probably the best spot and thats about 3 hours ? If no traffic, lol”
I eagerly await Sabina’s proclamation that Devils Head or Cascade is just as good as …
“Lots of direct flights to major cities including Chicago though!”
We went to Tahoe twice while living in Chicago (one summer, one winter); such an easy trip. I’ll say this though, if you have or ever have kids, be careful with the gambling at the Reno airport. On our first trip, waiting for our flight to head back to Chicago, I was holding my kid and played a slot machine. I think I won like $50 off a quarter. As a non-gambler, it was a thrill! I figured she was good luck, so we proceeded to play another machine. A security guard ran up and scolded me for gambling with her, and said I was lucky they weren’t calling the police.
Those trips were in the 2009-10 range. I’d been to Tahoe/Reno a half dozen or so times back in the early/mid 90s. In those 15 years, Reno had greatly improved, almost unrecognizably. I would imagine that’s continued over the past decade.
“I eagerly await Sabina’s proclamation that Devils Head or Cascade is just as good as …”
Everyone’s idea of beauty is different JohnnyU. Yes, to some, the Dunes National Park is the most beautiful place on earth (although Sleeping Bear probably takes the crown on that one.)
Different strokes for different folks.
That’s the great thing about America. You can go find cool places to visit and to live in all 50 states.
Here’s the article from last year talking about how Sleeping Bear in the summer reminds some of the Mediterranean.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/travel/sahara-level-sand-dunes-mediterranean-blue-water-welcome-to-michigan.html
“So, yeah, Reno to Yosemite in 3 hours.”
Nah. No way. I lived there. No way.
But in your dreams, sure.
“I guess it was announced recently in 2019 that its a national park… LOL so technically you are correct.”
You guess?
It was in the making for years.
It takes a lot to get National Park certification. Doesn’t matter what it “abuts”, by the way.
This isn’t a contest with the West. But your claim that Chicagoans are stuck in their little apartments with no access to nature is absurd and stupid. And it’s shameful that someone who used to live in Chicago would even say such a thing. Seriously.
I can’t really figure out what that’s about except maybe Reno is boring and you’re trying to make yourself feel better sonies.
“As for your airport comment yes, you are correct from Chicago you can get direct flights anywhere. I don’t fly all that much, maybe 5-6 times a year in a non covid year so I really appreciate the 15 minute traffic free drive and subsequent 5 minute wait in the TSA security line compared to O’Hare.”
Yes, if you never go anywhere, then secondary cities are fine. Allegiant has been adding more flights at the secondary cities. For those who like to travel, internationally or even domestically to like Hawaii or the Virgin Islands, they suck. You really get spoiled being able to go to London, Paris, Istanbul, Auckland, Shanghai on direct flights.
But this is why Boeing moved its headquarters to Chicago in the first place.
“If seeing penned Buffalo is your thing, awesome.”
JohnnyU- do you live in the Chicago area? I’m asking seriously. I’m beginning to think you’re like HH and you live somewhere else. Which is fine, as Milkster and others on this board don’t live in Chicago full-time.
But every Chicagoland resident knows the buffalo are free roaming within the preserve and it’s an amazing thing. You should seriously make a trip to go out and see what it’s all about.
I’m sorry you have no clue about it.
In fact, I think they’ve reintroduced them in several locations in Illinois now and they’re multiplying quickly which is amazing as thousands used to roam Illinois and the other states, of course.
I’m tired of this dumb discussion, by the way.
If you don’t like where you’re living, make a change. It’s a wide open country. Lots of places to live. Lots of small towns, mid-sized towns, secondary cities, superstar cities. Some cheap, some expensive. Some get snow, some do not. Some have seasons, some do not.
Go! Find your dream.
Just quit bitching about your choice. It’s so tiring.
“This isn’t a contest with the West. But your claim that Chicagoans are stuck in their little apartments with no access to nature is absurd and stupid. And it’s shameful that someone who used to live in Chicago would even say such a thing. Seriously.
I can’t really figure out what that’s about except maybe Reno is boring and you’re trying to make yourself feel better sonies.”
Reno is fine, I was out this weekend having nice dinners out with friends and even went to *gasp* a casino for a little bit.
Reason I was asking about being cooped up is because mayor light in the loafers kept the lakefront closed all summer, and other public spaces shut down. Now only “outdoor dining is allowed” lol, hows that working out with your gale warnings and 50 degree weather?
Also aren’t they boarding up most of the downtown city since you’re a bunch of liberal babies that are going to riot when Orange Man wins again and you don’t get your way?
“But every Chicagoland resident knows the buffalo are free roaming within the preserve and it’s an amazing thing. You should seriously make a trip to go out and see what it’s all about.”
You are a very intellectually dishonest person.
Here was my full quote – If seeing penned Buffalo is your thing, awesome. I mean you could just go to a zoo. But lets not act like you’re the Black Hills/Custer State Park/TR National Park. Are you making the argument that there are no fences keeping the Buffalo in? Or that their “Free Range” is all 1200Ac (Per wikipedia)? A Whole 2 sq miles!
Why would I go there Vs going to the Dakotas and see them in an actual free range environment?
You probably think seeing the Elk in Elk Grove is the same as seeing them in the Missouri River Breaks or Bitterroot Mountains. LOL
“JohnnyU- do you live in the Chicago area? I’m asking seriously. I’m beginning to think you’re like HH and you live somewhere else. Which is fine, as Milkster and others on this board don’t live in Chicago full-time.”
Considering Ive said before that I dont live in Illinois, that would be a no.
“Yes, if you never go anywhere, then secondary cities are fine. Allegiant has been adding more flights at the secondary cities. For those who like to travel, internationally or even domestically to like Hawaii or the Virgin Islands,”
Via ORD I have to go thru MIA or SJU to get to STX.
“Nah. No way. I lived there. No way.”
You lived in Reno? Or Yosemite?
Do you know where Tioga Pass is?
Two different people here say 2.5 hours, via 395 and Tioga:
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g61000-i315-k8624092-Hows_the_drive_from_Reno_to_Yosemity-Yosemite_National_Park_California.html
You’ve got to open your mind beyond the lower valley. Just because you never went above the lower falls doesn’t mean that’s what everybody does.
“kept the lakefront closed all summer, and other public spaces shut down.”
Wrong. The lakefront wasn’t closed all summer. Nor were other public spaces. We couldn’t go to Cubs/Sox/Bears games. Zoo is open. Everything else is open.
And yes, the coronavirus cases are so bad that the entire state is now under the dining restrictions.
There’s this thing called heat lamps and igloos and other things businesses are doing to try and stay open during the cold. Customers have been eating out through the chill in October but I’m not sure many were out in the 20 degree wind chills yesterday. Supposed to be 60s/70s this week but after the middle of the month, it’s back into the 40s.
So, yes, it’s going to be very difficult for the restaurants if these restrictions last longer than, say, 2 weeks.
Does anyone think this second wave will be much better 2 weeks from now? I don’t know. It’s not looking good. The virus is circulating unchecked. It’s a terrible situation for all the restaurants across the country.
As for the boarding up of downtown, they boarded up sometime again over the summer when they thought there might be unrest and there wasn’t any. Many places just left it up so they aren’t boarding up again. But some took it down. After 2 looting incidents in Chicago, they aren’t taking any chances (or their insurers, I should say, are not.)
the Lakefront trail, beaches and the 606 were totally closed march 26th till June 22nd with massive restrictions on it once mayor moron decided it was ok to you know, go outside
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-reopening-of-chicagos-lakefront/2290118/
lol at some of these restrictions STILL IN PLACE
Trail use is for exercising and commuting – walking, jogging, running, rollerblading, and biking are allowed. No congregating, no gathering, no grilling, and no picnicking allowed.
Additional Information:
Access to the trail will be minimized by restricting select entrance points. Additionally, merged trails or exits are in place for a few sections due to lakefront storm damage and high lake levels. View this information on the Lakefront Trail Access Map linked below.
Lakefront parking lots will remain closed, as will all other lakefront amenities including outdoor fitness equipment, athletic fields and beaches.
Water fountains will not be on and comfort stations/washrooms will not be open. Please plan your visit accordingly.
Social Distancing Ambassadors (SDA) will be stationed along the trail to educate the public and manage the flow of traffic, as well as provide guidance on health and safety guidelines.
Wear a face covering at all times unless you are exercising
Maintain social distance from other trail users, keeping 6-feet away from others who are not in your immediate family or living with you
Wash hands or use hand sanitizer frequently
Avoid touching your face with unwashed hands, and cover your nose and mouth when sneezing or coughing
Stay home if you are sick
She must think everyone is as dumb as she is
“Does anyone think this second wave will be much better 2 weeks from now? I don’t know. It’s not looking good. The virus is circulating unchecked.”
No, it’s not looking good at all. And it is circulating unchecked. Didn’t you just say that you’ve been riding public transportation? I would only do so if it were absolutely necessary and I had no alternative.
“No, it’s not looking good at all. And it is circulating unchecked. Didn’t you just say that you’ve been riding public transportation?”
They’ve actually shown the subway is safe as long as people are wearing masks and social distancing.
Depends on air circulation and masks.
“the Lakefront trail, beaches and the 606 were totally closed march 26th till June 22nd with massive restrictions on it once mayor moron decided it was ok to you know, go outside”
You said it was shut down all summer. Summer begins on June 20th, or thereabouts.
You are WRONG sonies. Just stop, before you make yourself look even dumber.
I’m so tired of ex-Chicagoans who act like they live in Chicago and know what is going on. You don’t.
So, yeah, nothing was shut down all summer. In fact, it was really nice for locals to have the run of the place without all the tourists for once. You could go places and do things without reservations or planning because it wasn’t crowded, especially at a lot of the popular downtown restaurants.
It’s hard running a major city during a pandemic, sonies.
The Mayor’s approval rating is quite high. But we’re in the Second Wave now and it’s going to be really difficult over the next several months. Cases continue to rise in the state, and nationally.
“I’m so tired of ex-Chicagoans who act like they live in Chicago and know what is going on. You don’t.”
This is too funny
You’re right, none of us has any friends/family in chicago that we communicate with on a regular basis. Only Sabrina knows whats going on in chicago LOL
You should follow your own advice when it comes to speaking of other cities
“It’s hard running a major city during a pandemic, sonies.”
Is it easy running a country during a pandemic?
Consistency isnt your trademark
“I’m so tired of ex-Chicagoans who act like they live in Chicago and know what is going on. You don’t.”
There is certainly a great deal of merit to that sentiment. Might the same thing apply to ex-Californians?
“Might the same thing apply to ex-Californians?”
Especially ones who don’t know where US-395 is.
She’s just butthurt her laughable theory of a far left blue wave didn’t happen
Like seriously how much of a loser do you have to be to believe that communism/socialism will improve your life?
Is Sabrina the Nate Silver of Chicago Real Estate?
“And yes, the coronavirus cases are so bad that the entire state is now under the dining restrictions.”
Dining is restricted — but being a super-spreader color revolution rioter is encouraged.
Edi
“Dining is restricted — but being a super-spreader color revolution rioter is encouraged.”
HH, if you actually lived in Chicago instead of reading about it on the Internet, you’d know that there hasn’t been any “riots” for months now. So they’re not spreading it.
“Like seriously how much of a loser do you have to be to believe that communism/socialism will improve your life?”
Well- Biden is about to get an all-time record vote and he’s going to win by a larger margin than Reagan won in 1980 over Carter.
So I guess there are a LOT of losers out there.
And it’s shocking that, once again, the Republicans are getting shut out in cities by the margins of 85-15 or even higher. And now they’ve lost the suburbs too.
Republicans need to look at their party and policies and figure out why they can’t convince the most dynamic parts of the country, including most of the innovators, to vote for them.
What’s wrong with their message?
“Might the same thing apply to ex-Californians?”
Of course. I’ve never said I know what’s going on in the Bay Area.
All cities have dramatically changed, even in just the last 10 years. If you left Chicago in 2010, do you have any idea what is going on in Fulton Market? Or Logan Square? Or Avondale?
Or even downtown?
My god. Chicago has built a new river walk and a handful of 70+ towers during that time.
You would have no clue.
And I have no clue about the Bay Area either.
“You’re right, none of us has any friends/family in chicago that we communicate with on a regular basis.”
Having “friends” who live somewhere means you don’t know SHIT.
“Is it easy running a country during a pandemic?”
Nope.
Which is why Trump was fired.
Maybe if he played less golf while 1,000 Americans were dying each day over the summer, he might be “running” the country.
“Well- Biden is about to get an all-time record vote and he’s going to win by a larger margin than Reagan won in 1980 over Carter.”
You might want to check your math. Both a larger population and a record turnout meant more votes cast in 2020 v 2008, but the margin of victory in the current squeaker will not beat Reagan’s 2008 landslide.
Reagan beat Carter by 489 electoral votes against Carter’s 49. In the current race neither candidate has the required 270 votes yet, with Biden at 253 against Trump’s 214.
Of the 79,385,632 votes cast in 1980, 55% went to Reagan against Carter’s 45%, a 10% vote margin.
Of the 143,100,198 total votes counted so far for 2020, Biden has 73,481,482 (51%) and Trump has 69,618,716 (49%), a 2.6% margin. That 3.8 million vote margin is expected to grow to 6 or 7 million after all 160 million votes are counted. That would bring the margin to 4.3%, less than half of Reagan’s 1980 margin of victory.
Certainly not a mandate for the Democrats, especially considering the failure of the anticipated Blue Wave to materialize down ticket. Despite record fundraising, the Dems lost house seats and are still the Senate minority party.
Eli Massey (EliJMassey) tweet:
“Even if Biden ends up squeaking out a victory, it’s a huge indictment of him, his campaign, and the politics that he represents that after [230,000] people died, the economy collapsed, and the last 4 years we’ve been led by a fascist game show host the election is this close.”
“What’s wrong with their message?”
Republicans have a hard time connecting with dead people due to their pro life stance
“You might want to check your math.”
She’s talking about just raw vote margin. 1980 margin was 8,423,115.
Don’t think Biden gets there from the current ~4m margin–unless the outstanding CA and NY votes are more favorable to him than those counted so far in those states.
“Even if Biden ends up squeaking out a victory, it’s a huge indictment of him, his campaign, and the politics that he represents that after [230,000] people died, the economy collapsed, and the last 4 years we’ve been led by a fascist game show host the election is this close.”
It’s NOT close.
Biden will have flipped 5 states, including 2 that Democrats haven’t won for nearly 30 years. While beating an incumbent president, which also hasn’t happened in nearly 30 years and the last time it did, there were 3 candidates on the ballot.
Actually, now that I think about it- the last TWO times an incumbent lost, Carter in 1980 and Bush in 1992, there were significant 3rd party candidates. Anderson got 6% of the vote in 1980. Perot got nearly 20%.
Biden beat Trump with no real third party in the mix.
Impressive.
The cities and suburbs have spoken. The country needs to go in another direction.
This unit closed.
Sold for $1.285 million.
This is the unit that anon(tfo) cited to. It sold in May for $1.285 million.