Made to Throw Dinner Parties: 4110 N. Southport in Graceland West
In some condo units, the dining room is an after-thought with a table thrown into a corner.
But this 2-bedroom at 4110 N. Southport in Graceland West won’t let you forget that the dining room is something to be celebrated and used with its built-in hutch and high ceilings.
The living room also sports more great vintage woodwork in the fireplace mantel (the fireplace is woodburing, by the way.)
The unit has central air and an in-unit washer/dryer. It also has outdoor space, which isn’t that common for most vintage units. There is, however, no parking with the unit.
Eric Rojas at Rubloff has the listing. See more pictures here.
See the virtual tour here.
You can also check out Eric’s real estate blog here.
Unit #2: 2 bedrooms, 1 bath, no square footage listed
- Sold in December 1993 for $100,500
- Sold in July 2004 for $253,000
- Currently listed for $289,900
- Assessments of $226 a month
- Taxes of $2842
- Central Air
- Washer/Dryer in the Unit
- No parking
- Bedroom #1: 10×9
- Bedroom #2: 10×9
- Living room: 18×10
- Dining room: 16×12
- Kitchen: 12×12
I’d rather spend 10K more and get the 2/2 in LP with real bedrooms, a view, and parking. Granted this is a prettier building.
I think it priced a tad high, but not unreasonable. It will probably sell. I could see a single person picking this place up. It has a real dining room, not that combo/great room crap. Bedrooms a little small but usable and has a large living room.
Lack of parking is a deal killer for some, but I am sure some folks would be ok without in that area.
The combo/great room is better than small partitioned rooms, that’s according to Frank Lloyd Wright who rejected Victorian architecture and all its rooms.
You can have a better dinner party in combo/great room and can rent a portable table, put a tablecloth over it and make a good table extension.
“4110 N. Southport in Graceland West”
Graceland West = Uptown no matter how much polish you throw on that turd. 289k for a 2/1 with dinky bedrooms in uptown with no parking?
LOL!
agreed that is uptown, albeit not the worst section of it
Agreed, I do enjoy the bar scene there at southport and irving park rd., but still, this is priced above RN/LP
“The combo/great room is better than small partitioned rooms, that’s according to Frank Lloyd Wright who rejected Victorian architecture and all its rooms.”
the new trend is “open living” kitchen open to the dining room and/or family room. I guess i am old school and like my kitchen, dining, and family room, or the chicagoan way the “front room”, to be separate.
in that “open” floor plan if groove cooks up his crazy one eye’d fish dish all the guest area will be rank with the smell. during a holiday i like my dining room separate from the TV blaring footbal/basketball/curling.
i think this place is sweet, just not a fan of being that close to a cemetery
“I guess i am old school and like my kitchen, dining, and family room, or the chicagoan way the “front room”, to be separate. ”
agreed…I have a greystone with a (semi)original floor plan. I love that the kitchen is seperate and on the total oposite end of my place from the living room. Its nice because of the fact that heat and smells, and the resultant mess, come from the kitchen. My guest don’t have to deal with it. Also, I can sit in my living room after dinner and not have to look at the mess of the dinner that I just made.
The open concept is a result of tiny condos and lofts that were to small or aukwardly shapped to accomidate seperate rooms. Ive seen to many liv/din combo rooms that are 14×16′. 14 x 16′ is barely a spacious living room, let alone a combo room. These liv/dining combo rooms also ended up being the liv/din/entry/kitchen/hall/ closet rooms.
Combo/Great Room is just Realtor/developer speak for too small to accommodate a real dining room set.
“Graceland West = Uptown no matter how much polish you throw on that turd. 289k for a 2/1 with dinky bedrooms in uptown with no parking?”
Sonies — be careful else Eric Rojas will come whining about you trashing his listings. He complains that people post opinions over facts.
“Graceland West”
LOFL!
Putting the compass coordinate after a neighborhood name (in this case, an already bogus one) is always a dead giveaway you’re being hosed by a realtor.
Or did Elvis used to live here?
Yeah, this place is a lot further north than I thought… I was thinking it was south of Irving Park… $225k-$250k.
If you believe the Community Area map this is Lakeview (W of Graceland and S of Montrose). Indeed it is right by Lakeview High. This is the first I’ve ever heard of “Graceland West” but if it means anything it means these blocks.
This apartment is fully a mile from Leland and Sheridan, where the “fight” was, and separated by the cemetery from the SROs and Uptown shadiness.
Have any of you people that post on this site actually driven around Graceland West? Big, beautiful OLD mansions that have had tons of money poured into them. Commissioner Forest Claypool, Supreme Court Justice’s son lives here along with some very wealthy attorney’s and business owners. It has been an established neighborhood for years. Large lots and big mature trees…you all really need to get out more because you sure as heck don’t know the areas you comment on! You can’t just sit in front of the computer screen all day!
tom,
“Also, I can sit in my living room after dinner and not have to look at the mess of the dinner that I just made”
plus don’t have to clean it up till guest leave, and if wifey would let me, not clean it up till the next day 🙂
“The open concept is a result of tiny condos and lofts that were to small or aukwardly shapped to accomidate seperate rooms”
i have been seeing this trend in 2500-3500 sq ft SFH too. a boy hood buddy of mine bought a typical cheesey new construction cookie cutter every house on the block sameness place in mchenry county. and its the “open floor plan” thing and his place is 4000 sq ft
It actually isn’t on a bad street though. Just north of Deleece. I don’t think this is really “uptown” like living on Lawerence. It is in a grey zone. Close enough to Southport, but not really Southport.
this is lakeview.
Anyone that says that Uptown is “gentrifying soon” is a bold faced liar. Then again how do you know if a realtor is lying? The same way you know if a politician is lying…
“If you believe the Community Area map this is Lakeview (W of Graceland and S of Montrose). Indeed it is right by Lakeview High.”
While neighborhoods can’t define an area perfectly I think they define places better than community areas. After all, Cabrini Green and Streeterville are both in the “Near North Side” Community Area.
I second russ’s comment, it’s a grey zone. not uptown but not lakeview or southport corridor.
p.s. one of these days i will go visit graceland cemetary. lots of beautiful scenery in there and some famous chicago people i.e. palmers, daniel burnham, carter harrison, marshall field, mies van de rohe, the list goes on…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Burials_at_Graceland_Cemetery_(Chicago)
“I’d rather spend 10K more and get the 2/2 in LP with real bedrooms, a view, and parking. Granted this is a prettier building.”
Please show me where you can find a 2/2 in Lincoln Park for 300K with parking, large bedrooms and a view.
This is not Uptown, that is stretching it. It is only a couple blocks north of the nice Southport area. Stop hating on everything.
“If you believe the Community Area map this is Lakeview”
“While neighborhoods can’t define an area perfectly I think they define places better than community areas.”
Well, either way, it ain’t Uptown, as so many have tagged it.
Call it Northeast West Lakeview (for those who refuse to admit that Lakeview covers the area b/t Ashland & Ravenswood south of Montrose), or whatever. It has much, much more in common with Lakeview and SoPo than it does Uptown, in housing stock, transit connections and residents, at least until you get north of Cullom or so.
Two things: 1) While Southport itself isn’t that nice above IP, the crossstreets in Graceland West (made up name or not), in bt Southport and Ashland, along with Greenview, are indeed quite beautiful and have gorgeous housing stock including some “mansions.” 2) Not to start the whole 2BR condo and family thing again, but I would guess if this were a couple yards south and in Blaine it would go for ask no problem (Ravenswood is a perfectly fine school, though full of controversy recently, but it’s no Blaine).
“Putting the compass coordinate after a neighborhood name (in this case, an already bogus one) is always a dead giveaway you’re being hosed by a realtor.”
East Village. West Village. Yeah, always a dead giveaway.
And the “bogus neighborhood” is the cemetary–a landmark, not a neighborhood, so by that standard River North is a bogus name, too.
“Please show me where you can find a 2/2 in Lincoln Park for 300K with parking, large bedrooms and a view.”
We just chattered about one last week actually.
http://cribchatter.com/?p=7423
By the way- some properties that are in the “gray zone” (in between neighborhoods etc.)- get called by different names on this site. Sometimes I get it right, sometimes I don’t.
This is NOT one of the times I got it wrong.
This property is not located in Uptown. The realtors call it Graceland West because it’s not really Southport either (north of Irving Park.)
But it’s a few minutes from that yummy Dairy Queen on Southport which is IN Southport so buyers can judge for themselves what to call it.
I actually took a look at the 2/2 you chatted about last week in LP and it doesn’t include parking (extra), assesments are 444 a month, no central air and no in unit washer/dryer. Probably no outdoor space either. How is that worth more then this Southport location?
You can put in the w/d.
Yes- no outdoor space.
But there IS deeded parking available (there is none with this unit.)
The properties aren’t comparable. Completely different locations and one is vintage and the other is not. But you asked for a 2/2 with parking in LP for $300k with views. They DO exist. (even if the parking is extra. Everything is negotiable these days in real estate.)
This location is in Lakeview (as determined by the powers that decide these things, draw the maps and dictate how we can enter properties in our local multiple listing service). The neighborhood, as the actual people that live here tell me, is called Gracland West and identify themselves with it.
I usually mention Graceland West and Southport Corridor when advertising so people can identify where it is.
This is cheaper, bigger and nicer than many properties I have seen sold just south of Irving, yet you are literally a 5-7 minute walk to the central retail/bar/restaurant strip on Sotuhport. Geez, you even have Deleece before you hit Irving Park Road. I just walked from the unit to Avante Cafe in 5 mins last Tuesday morning before taking these photos.
I’ve shown two or three smaller units, no dining room or decks, at the 1500 block of West Waveland that sold in pretty fast market times for the high $270s, low $280s within the last three months. They had shiny new kitchens w/ garnite blahh, blahh, blahh (which I’ve seen many lament here)… and larger bedrooms. No table space, small living room.
I like my chances here for someone who wants an actual dining room and big deck… these features are hard to find in a nice place under $300K here or farther south into Lakeview. Singles and couples will be fine here and exterior storage is really big, so all your junk can stay.
The owners have owned the place 5 years and have parked two cars on the street. Its zoned for Cub night games and evenings are actually easy to park (I’m serious… my area of Ravenswood is not easy parking at night despite what I hear Realtors say, this area of Lakeview is). You can rent a spot literally next door, but my clients have never needed too.
The 2 beds, 2 baths with parking selling at $299ish across the street at the 4000 block of North Southport have jacked up floorplans and do not have the quality woodwork, solid feeling etc… I used those as market comparables as well since people try to sell those quite often.
Good luck with those 2/2 for $300K or under in LP. I wish it were that easy and affordable but there’s always a catch on the very few availble. You could live at 1610 W Fullerton 🙂
Can I file car-related claims for bumper rash and puke covered door handles under the HOA’s umbrella policy? If so, maybe I’d consider a place without parking. I keed, I keed.