Live in the River North Gallery District: A 3-Bedroom at 215 W. Huron
This 3-bedroom at 215 W. Huron in River North recently came on the market.
It is one of the few residential buildings located in what is known as the River North Gallery District.
The 5-unit building was converted into condominiums in 1997.
The elevator opens privately into each unit.
The unit has 11-foot high ceilings and crown moldings along with North, South and East views.
The listing says it is a “new kitchen” with granite counter tops and stainless steel appliances.
It has central air, washer/dryer in the unit and 1-car garage parking.
The unit is currently listed at $265,000 higher than the 2013 sale price, at $915,000.
Is nearly a million dollars the new 3-bedroom price point to gain entry in the Gallery District now?
Jayne Alofs at Berkshire Hathaway KoenigRubloff has the listing. See the pictures here.
Unit #2: 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 2400 square feet
- Sold in April 1997 for $335,500
- Sold in November 1998 for $310,000
- Sold in March 1999 for $419,500
- Sold in March 2001 for $599,000
- Sold in July 2003 for $600,000
- Sold in June 2013 for $650,000
- Originally listed in July 2015 for $987,000
- Reduced
- Currently listed at $915,000 (includes garage parking)
- Assessments of $375 a month (includes exterior maintenance)
- Taxes of $10,292
- Central Air
- Washer/Dryer in the unit
- Bedroom #1: 24×12
- Bedroom #2: 12×9
- Bedroom #3: 12×9
Nice kitchen cabinets. That bathroom though, it really needs an update.
Sabrina where have you been the Gallery District is HOT HOT HOT
Why aren’t the power lines buried? I wouldn’t want to spend this much to look at power lines.
Nice track lighting…
At the bottom of the listing, Redfin shows a slightly larger comp, which I don’t like as much, for $1.1 million.
yikes, this is what $1mm gets you. track lighting, bathroom from the 80s, and not a lot of luxury. GL with that price increase LOL
Three bedrooms means at least one child, right? Ogden and Walter Payton, right? (If they don’t want to shell out for private or Catholic).
Payton is a selective enrollment school so if your kid is a dunce forget about it, he’s gonna be the only white kid at Wells high school lol or is Ogden high school a thing now
I’ve seen more than one white kid at Wells while driving by recently, fwiw.
Gayle:
“Ogden and Walter Payton, right? ”
You, Miss, are a moron. And that is as nicely as I can put it.
“is Ogden high school a thing now”
Yes, and reasonably well regarded. No one is turning down Payton or Jones to go there, but I suspect some are turning down Lane (and anyone in the Ogden attendance area ranking Northside ahead of Payton is being goofy), based on travel time issues.
Ogden is trying to merge with Wells because of overcrowding issues. Ogden-Wells Community High.
That sounds like a disaster, whats next they going to merge Jenner and Ogden elementaries?
Well, either Jenner and Ogden will merge as a middle school, or Wells and Ogden as a high school. Ogden currently has two campuses, and they need three. Right now, Ogden on walton is the younger kids and the middle school and high school are in Noble Square. People keep moving downtown. Right now, there are 4,000 more rental apartments going up in the Gold Coast area. Maybe it will be a disaster, but we have to do something!
“Right now, there are 4,000 more rental apartments going up in the Gold Coast area.”
And about 8** of them have 3 bedrooms.
**obviously hyperbole. It’s probably only 2.
Anon, your point? (Besides the one on top of your head?)
“your point?”
How many people moving into those apartments are going to have school-aged children?
Thought that was pretty clear.
oh, and PS, wouldn’t they all just go to Payton, anyway? They’re expanding it, ya know.
Well, anon, I do see plenty of school-age kids in the lobbies of downtown luxury hi-rises. Of course, it could be that they are visiting Daddy in his urban bachelor pad per divorce-court order and are spending the other half of the week with Mommy and her new “room mate.”
LOTS of people have school aged children that live downtown, me included. Why do you think Ogden is looking for a third campus? There are 6 incoming kindergarten classes with 30 kids in each class. I don’t understand when people think every single family moves to the suburbs once their children turn 5. The Gold coast is a marvelous place to raise children.
“The Gold coast is a marvelous place to raise children.”
In a one bedroom apartment?
There is ANON again with that point on his head shining brightly. As if there are only one bedrooms in the gold coast. Get out of your mother’s basement in Jefferson Park and have her drive you around a bit.
Reading comprehension is your friend:
You wrote:
“Right now, there are 4,000 more rental apartments going up in the Gold Coast area.”
I expressed my view that the vast, vast majority of those 4,000 apartments are of minimal effect on the school-aged population of the Ogden attendance area.
You missed the point (even after I clarified it) and got upset.
My friend went to Ogden back in the 60s. He said it was used as the experimental school for CPS back then. Is that still true today?
“How many people moving into those apartments are going to have school-aged children?”
Initially- probably not that many. But the millenials are deciding not to buy. Many are aging “in” place. Whereas they might have lived in a downtown rental for 2 to 3 years and then went on to buy a condo, they are now staying 5+ years. Many are having kids in their apartments.
The real question is- will they keep renting another 5 years for those children to go to school there? No one knows.
Crain’s actually looked into this last August.
Chicago developer Steven Fifield, who built K2, the 496-unit River West tower where the Baugueses live, says the median age in his firm’s buildings has risen to 32, up from 26 just five years ago.
“Part of the normal turnover in a building happens when people would buy something” and move out, Appraisal Research Vice President Ron DeVries says. “That’s not happening anymore, so they’re aging in place.”
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20140823/issue01/308239987/downtown-apartments-on-a-five-year-hot-streak
“will they keep renting another 5 years for those children to go to school there?”
How many of these 4,000 units in the Ogden attendance area are more than 2 beds? That, to me, is the real question.
Instead of “busing” blacks into liberal-dominated (make that white middle class) areas, we should bus the liberals into the black areas. Why would they object? Ha ha, the hypocrites. PS Walter Burnett is a Wells HS grad.
Anonpointy, I’m not upset. I just think your opinions are based on nothing. 4,000 new apartments and even if 10% have school age children, that is 400 new kids. Lets say 5%, that is 200 new kids. NEW KIDS. And Ogden is already overcrowded.
“The real question is- will they keep renting another 5 years for those children to go to school there? No one knows”
Pretty simple formula actually. If they have one kid they may stay downtown and scrape tuition together for private schools. Two puts them on the fence and $$$$ and school choices are the likely tipping points. Three and it’s all over as they are headed to get driveways, trees, and Mini-vans. And the beauty of all those sensational chain stores and restaurants.
That’s what we did. Last night I was downtown for dinner and while the rest of my guests were headed to a rooftop I was sadly leaving for home. It was around 8:45 as the river north area had just heated up. Everyone was outside enjoying the night. Let’s just say that the ride home was a bit sad….
“That’s what we did. Last night I was downtown for dinner and while the rest of my guests were headed to a rooftop I was sadly leaving for home. It was around 8:45 as the river north area had just heated up. Everyone was outside enjoying the night. Let’s just say that the ride home was a bit sad….’
I have the same feelings of forlorn too (or as the kids call it today, FOMO); but then I think about it for a second, and I realize that I’m first and foremost a Dad, and drinking it up until 12:00 a.m. on a Wednesday night while my wife puts the kids to sleep – regardless of where I live – may have been cool for Don Draper; but it’s no cool for my family.
The fact of the matter is that if you lived in the far burbs, you probably wouldn’t even be in the city at all; at least I can make it door to door in a reasonable time frame. You should be happy for that. I spent my late teens, 20’s and early 30’s going from place to place late into the night in the city. It’s hard to party ‘too much’ in Chicago but sitting on a rooftime in river north in the summer is awesome, no doubt, but there are other things in life.
“And the beauty of all those sensational chain stores and restaurants. ”
Everyone jokes about the suburbs like every ‘burb has a Randall Road with box stores and subdivisions. But they’re not all like that. We’ve discussed the GZ suburbs here many times. A lot of the North Shore suburbs specifically ban those big box developments and long stretches of road with nothing but retail and commercial. I’m not saying the suburbs are great, but there are different, and equally desirable places to live in life other than River North; such as Long Grove or Glendoe. While Glencoe may not be cool for a 25 year old, it’s more than acceptable for a 35 year old with 2 kids and a wife or husband, and in fact, is often preferable.
“And the beauty of all those sensational chain stores and restaurants.”
We’ve argued about this many times. Is Southport any different? Bucktown? They have all the same chain stores too. They have Ulta and Walgreens. They have Potbelly’s, Starbucks, Athleta and JCrew. So what’s the difference? How is it ANY different than downtown Naperville?
Oh- yeah- you can go do “different” restaurants in Southport that aren’t chains. Of course, you can do the same in the suburbs. We’re not talking about Plainfield here. Downtown Oak Park has many lovely “local” restaurants that are just as good as those in Southport. Some would argue Evanston’s restaurant scene is better than many neighborhoods in Chicago.
Come on. This argument is getting tired now.
“How many of these 4,000 units in the Ogden attendance area are more than 2 beds? That, to me, is the real question.”
Plenty. Probably half or more.
“Probably half or more.”
Oh, please. That isn’t supported by *anything*.
I am a bit confused about all this discussion. So people living in Gold Coast, one of the fanciest neighborhoods in Chicago, cannot afford private school? It is not like private schools are so expensive.
I’m on anon’s side here. The vast majority will be 2/2’s. 3/2’s apartment rentals are rare and when they do exist, they rent at a premium, especially in high rise buildings.
Young folks are just going to rent 2/2’s until they have a kid in the crib for a few months and then decide it’s time to move. A significant # of the 2/2’s we see for sale on CC have got the crib in the 2nd bedroom. The fact that 2/2’s in many GZ neighborhoods are selling near peak prices is only driving them to rent instead.
“How is it ANY different than downtown Naperville?”
“Oh- yeah- you can go do “different” restaurants in Southport that aren’t chains. Of course, you can do the same in the suburbs.”
Because of all the other amazing restaurants, shops, and cultural attractions that exist only in the city.
You’re seriously going to compare the “different” restaurants in the city to the one’s in the burbs.
” It is not like private schools are so expensive.”
Private schools can be expensive (i.e. British school). But that aside, its the double whammy of paying for private school for two kids AND real estate taxes is what drove me to the ‘burbs. I’d rather keep that $11k a year paid to ST. Viator for two kids in my bank account instead. I’m sure plenty of upper middle class families like mine feel the $11k is worth it but given my student loan burden the decision was obvious to my family, and I’ve never regretted it.
“Because of all the other amazing restaurants, shops, and cultural attractions that exist only in the city.”
Are suburban residents banned from these amazing restaurants, shops and cultural attractions only in the city? I didn’t know, I must have missed the sign that said “NO SUBURBANITES”. Where is that sign, exactly?
“Probably half or more.”
As a for example in a recently completed building: 805 LaSalle has exactly ZERO units with more than 2 bedrooms. Oh for 295.
” the sign that said “NO SUBURBANITES”. Where is that sign, exactly?”
Only residents get the decoder ring. Duh.
““How many of these 4,000 units in the Ogden attendance area are more than 2 beds? That, to me, is the real question.”
Plenty. Probably half or more.
”
LOL no
I’d say ‘maybe’ 5% are 3 bedrooms
“Private schools can be expensive (i.e. British school). But that aside, its the double whammy of paying for private school for two kids AND real estate taxes is what drove me to the ‘burbs.”
I am not saying that people don’t move to the burbs because of expenses, but rather that those living in Gold Coast should be able to afford private school. Also not everybody has 3-4 kids.
“Are suburban residents banned”
No. It’s just a matter of convenience. And I’m willing to pay a premium for it.
How many people, even those living in the Gold Coast, can afford $60,000 a year for tuition for two kids? Even if you’re making $200,000 a year, $60,000 is still a bit much. (This is one of the reasons I have chosen not to have kids.)
They need to build more elementary schools in the downtown area. Ogden’s attendance area is insane. It’s no wonder they have six kindergarten classes.
The suburbs in no way have the same level of dining as the city. Yes, we have all the obligatory fast causal chain restaurants and maybe even a few outpost of popular steak houses, but those restaurants are not what people are looking for when it comes to urban dining.
However, the benefits of suburban living for many outweigh the trendy city dining scene. You can always get into the city for a night out at a restaurant, but it is hard to replicate the better schools, lower crime, additional space, etc that some of the inner suburbs offer over the city.
Everyone has to decide what they can live with and without and make their choices accordingly.
The biggest problem I see with Chicago is that there is a lot of demand for city living but unless you are able to cough up a $1 million or more for a single family or willing to live in a duplex down, the housing stock and schools are inadequate for most of the middle class and even upper class to some degree.
“How many people, even those living in the Gold Coast, can afford $60,000 a year for tuition for two kids? Even if you’re making $200,000 a year, $60,000 is still a bit much. (This is one of the reasons I have chosen not to have kids.)”
I think people living in GC make way more than 200K, our renters in SL (renting a 1BR) make 160K. I bet there are many people making over 300K who live in GC and they can afford private school for 2 kids.
“Are suburban residents banned”
That’s why we are in the city for now – suburban residents certainly aren’t banned, but how often do you actually pack the kids up in the car and take advantage of it? And how much time are you losing by commuting?
We get up early in the morning and take the family through the park and along the lake front 3-4 times per week. And we have time to do this because our commutes are 15 minutes door to door.
We have memberships and/or take advantage of the free library passes to cultural attractions and go often. We are within walking distance of many things, and a quick, no transfer bus or el ride, to others.
What we lack in space, we make up for in time together as a family.
I’m happy with our elementary school options, which should keep us in place for a good while, at least until we age out.
“I’d rather keep that $11k a year paid to ST. Viator for two kids in my bank account instead.”
Well, it’s probably better for St. Viator to not have such a wishy-washy parent associated with the school. We can see how much you actually value Catholic education, lol. Religious schools in these situations have a tough time, because what happens is you get parents who don’t really care about the mission of the school, or the moral/religious instruction, or the faith. They see it as a place to plop their kid to “avoid CPS” or even more sinister among liberal white hypocrites to avoid “the blacks and browns”. There are some parents who aren’t even religious, who send their kids to these schools, and then they ultimately think theses schools should bend to their secular or wishy-washy ways.
“Well, it’s probably better for St. Viator to not have such a wishy-washy parent associated with the school.”
You’re looking at it the wrong way. nothing wrong with private catholic education, my wife had that nearly all of her life. The issue is finances. $11,000 while a not tremendous amount of money for an upper middle class family is still enough to make a family pause for a second after sending in $9,000 in real estate taxes.
eh the religious schools get what religious entities always want.
money
They don’t have blacks or browns at St.Viaator? I’m calling the Pope.
This is strictly anecdotal, so I can’t say that it’s indicative of a “trend”…but…I know of a rather affluent two-earner family who RENTED (not bought) a 2/2 unit in an upscale APARTMENT (not condo) building in the Gold Coast. They lived modestly by GC standards and put both little girls in the second bedroom. (Oh the horror…Daddy was a corporate executive and they didn’t each have their own bedroom!) They put their “investment” money elsewhere rather than real estate.
Why? They wanted the kids to have the advantages of living in the city, including Ogden School which was actually “walkable” to their home. How many suburban kids walk to school nowadays?
By the way…are we talking about St. Viator’s high school in the suburbs, or St. Viator’s grade school in Old Irving Park?
If the Ogden school is too crowded they should bus the urban Obama-voter liberals’ kids to schools in diverse neighborhoods that have the capacity. Support integration. Simple as that.
What about the conservative non Obama voters? Is it okay if we just stay at Ogden?
violators in old Irving.
“violators in old Irving.”
Still with the creepers, HD?
HD and others – All well said as there are indeed other restaurants than the chains in the burbs. I’ll find a few in the months and years ahead. But the energy and vibe of the city plays into that entire dining and nightlife experience, In the city the people watching is often far more interesting than in some (not all) burbs. Sitting on a sidewalk table with the view, noise, and stream of people walking by is awesome.
And HD you are money. I’m the happiest dad and really enjoy the offerings and benefits that living in P.R. offers for the entire family. We can walk three and four blocks respectively to the grade and middle school without even crossing a busy street. And the high school is only five blocks with one busy street which will not be a issue for a 14 year old.
Did I mention the small but cool downtown, great library, multiple parks, or new community pool? Those too are great trade offs. They make our decision fantastic. The burbs life We feared has turned out to be much better than expected. And yes, we still get downtown fairly often. Made it to 40 before getting married and late 40’s until moving out of the city, I’ve lived that experience more than most,
Speaking of getting downtown from the burbs here is an idea that made my wife’s eyes roll over. Bet I get positives from men and thumbs down from many ladies.
We put in a low bid in on a house in Riverwoods but the sellers and bank did not accept. (Still not sold three years later and now listed below our offer) My concern was that it was so far north that I feared we’d never get downtown for dining etc and found a great solution on eBay. Put in a offer without consulting the wife but got outbid. Later she laughed with relief and told me I was crazy. What did I bid on you ask?
An old funeral home style mini Caddialc limo. They are around the size of a Tahoe or suburban but it allowed a flip able middle seat. This made it possible for two rows of seats facing each other like a living room that would fit 4 easily and 6 people if tight.
Told her that we would grab another couple and just find a neighbor kid to drive us down and back on occasional Friday’s and Saturdays for dinner etc. House has a four car a
garage so I offered 5k but it went for 6k. It was dark blue so my thought was that we could add Bears stickers to it so it looked fun and not stuffy or ostentasious. It would be the laugh of the hood. And imagine the tailgate parties you could have at the kids soccer games.
Cost vs uber would have been similar. Liability a slight issue but it would have made it easy to go places, made people smile and laugh, and been fun. And isn’t that what life is all about?
Jp3 – does one of you stay at home, work from home, or have a really flexible part-time job? I think suburbs are doable in that case, but if you have two working spouses downtown with young kids, how do you even have any time with them or avoid stressing out when they get sick, etc? I am lucky in that I work “30” hours 4 days at the moment, but always end up staying really late at least one night and get up early with the laptop. With a super short commute, I feel like we are making it work. If we lived in the burbs, I’d have no time and my husband would never make it home before bedtime.
My husband lost his job in the downturn. He was able to find another great job, but we lived off my salary while he was looking. There are arguments for both sides, but for us the city (with a super short commute) is really the only viable option at this point.
@jp3 haha I love the caddy idea! I would totally do something like that if I lived in the burbs
“Made it to 40 before getting married and late 40’s until moving out of the city, I’ve lived that experience more than most”
And you can still go get drunk in Edison Park.
MJ – yes the wife has an incredible job with great pay and much flexibility. And did I mention that she is awesome? Like winning the lottery if you ask me. And no I’m not saying that to butter her up. She is not a real estate girl and could care less about daily updates on crib chatter.
I own a business and often work late so driving home after 7 is quick. I’m often door to door in under 20 minutes. And that was my same work schedule when we lived downtown. It makes me appreciate the mornings and puts me into some serious traffic.
BTW unlike other burbs where there are three year waiting lists she was able to secure a parking pass right next to the Metra station less than two months after moving to PR. It’s a fairly easy walk but in the am that makes everything easier and is worth the low cost. Especially in poor weather.
There was another shooting in my neighborhood last night and I’m starting to see the point in moving to the suburbs. At least there they don’t tolerate subsidized housing near middle class homes.
“Did I mention the small but cool downtown”
In Park Ridge? In all seriousness, can you please explain what is cool about it. Thanks. I have head that the concerts in the park are fun on Friday nights.
“There was another shooting in my neighborhood last night and I’m starting to see the point in moving to the suburbs. At least there they don’t tolerate subsidized housing near middle class homes”
Yes the suburbs just don’t allow guns. The shooters get real nervous when they go to the suburbs and see all those “No shooting allowed” signs.
” In all seriousness, can you please explain what is cool about it. ”
Actually, PR’s downtown offers more diversity of types of functional commercial businesses than areas like the West Division strip or North and Damen, which are all bars, bars with food, and more restaurants with bars in them, and that’s about it except for a random dog boutique here and there.
Helmet, you still haven’t explained what is “cool” about downtown PR. all you have done is tear another area apart but didn’t answer the question. And to correct you, West Division has bars, yes, but it also has hotels, bakeries, banks, schools, tire changing place, hospitals, hair salons, realtors, dentists, etc. It’s quite the lively, liveable area that doesn’t just have bars.
you can’t compare downtown PR to west town. PR doesn’t even allow stand alone bars. it is a walkable downtown with a train station, library, restaurants, grocery stores, apartments, condos, a bike shop, and various boutiques, all surrounded by residential. it’s by no means amazing but is functional and nice. its not as big as other downtowns like elmhurst or Arlington heights but it doesn’t need to be. still it’s vastly better than downtown Schaumburg. but we all know that nothing beats downtown quaint and historic long grove.
“There was another shooting in my neighborhood last night and I’m starting to see the point in moving to the suburbs.”
Just don’t move to Schaumburg, there’s guns there too.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-schaumburg-shooting-20150802-story.html
I’m talking about high quality suburbs like Wilmette, Park Ridge, Northfield, etc. I’m not sure what might be wrong with this house, but the price is about the same as I could get for my condo: http://www.estately.com/listings/info/215-3rd-street–5
…or I could live here and pay cash for this little condo: http://www.estately.com/listings/info/561-hill-terrace–3
I could walk to the beach and take the Metra to work.
I really hate the idea of living in the suburbs, but the gangs in Chicago make it unpleasant. It’s infuriating that the city does nothing to stop the violence. The shooting in my area happened across the street from a police station. How is it possible that the shooter wasn’t caught? Also, why are these subsidized housing complexes allowed to rent to criminals?
Jenny: That first house you linked to was a short sale so it could take awhile to actually get into that.
But how about this? Also in Wilmette. Just $339k. Looks like it’s bank owned already. The bank has been trying to sell it for 6 months.
https://www.redfin.com/IL/Wilmette/1819-Wilmette-Ave-60091/home/13775167
A couple of months ago I saw a 2-bedroom townhouse near transportation sell in Highland Park for under $200,000 and I thought, “wow- for those schools? Someone with one child is getting a really great deal.”
There ARE deals in the city and the suburbs if you look around.
Downtown Long Grove is a ghost town with “For Rent” signs all over the place. So while it’s still quaint, there ain’t jack squat of doodley for shopping anymore.
What is quaint about for rent signs? Are they in French or something (Vendre)?
“For rent” is “A Louer” 🙂
The buildings of Long Grove are still in good shape and look quaint. Just devoid of tenants.
http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20141021/business/141029741/
i personally spend my days in deer park.
You’re so bourgeoisie, HD.
“Downtown Long Grove is a ghost town with “For Rent” signs all over the place. So while it’s still quaint, there ain’t jack squat of doodley for shopping anymore”
Well thankfully there are not one but 3! Wally Worlds (aka walmarts) that are equidistant to long grove, what a fantastic town!
It’s surprising the deals that are still available in the nicer suburbs. I was surprised to see I could afford anything in Wilmette, let alone an entire house.
I wonder if it’s difficult for the kids from modest means going to north shore schools given that all of the others kids are going to have their Versace purses and trips to exotic lands.
“I wonder if it’s difficult for the kids from modest means going to north shore schools given that all of the others kids are going to have their Versace purses and trips to exotic lands.”
At a huge high school like New Trier or Loyola, the kids already have their circle of friends from the elementary and middle school years. They are for the most part already self-segregated income-wise and neighborhood-wise (property value), and suburb-wise.
Of course, being from rich parents doesn’t really matter if the girl is butt-ugly or the guy is a nerd. A good-looking female and a good athlete male will always rise to the top at this age.
“Of course, being from rich parents doesn’t really matter if the girl is butt-ugly or the guy is a nerd. A good-looking female and a good athlete male will always rise to the top at this age”
Yes look at Kate Middleton who isn’t even all that beautiful–girl next door look–and now she is popping out heirs to the British throne. What a jump.
Sonies – you left out the mega Menards on Lake Cook and Old 53.
“look at Kate Middleton who isn’t even all that beautiful–girl”
???
She’s great breeding stock. Are you crazy? Have you been on the Blue Line lately and surveyed the freak female specimens on it? Look at what Jeb Bush ended up with! Leave Ms. Middleton alone, what city and planet do you live on where there’s that much improvement? The majority of Chicago and American women are clinically obese. The tattooed skanks everywhere? They turn you on? You’re lying. Biology doesn’t lie. People still get turned on by the prom queen not the Logan Square weirdo. You’re nuts.
Helmet, it sounds like you don’t get out much. Kate Middleton is fine, but if she wasn’t married to PW, she would be just another girl walking down the street. She’s a very ordinary girl that did something extraordinary. Pant away if you want, but there are beautiful women all over the planet, she just isn’t one of them.
This conversation about Kate M is turning ridiculous. I’ll help guide it along…
http://www.celebuzz.com/2011-03-14/kate-middleton-shows-off-white-hot-bikini-body-photos/
hd- those photos were 4 years old in 2011… most women look pretty good at age 25
But seriously I see probably 20 women a day better looking than her just walking or biking to and from work
agree that the milwaukee avenue tatoo’d up skanks are disgusting but maybe 1/1000 is doable lol
“This conversation about Kate M is turning ridiculous. I’ll help guide it along…”
No offense HD, but there are plenty of 25 year old women who look as good or better than Kate in a bikini. Now that you’re in Long Grove, you obviously don’t go down to any of the beaches. Just stroll down to the Ohio Street Beach or Oak Street Beach and hang out for awhile.
Or go to the coasts. Plenty of really beautiful women in the Carolinas and California.
Also, Kate’s hair, which everyone gushes about, is fake. It’s extensions. That’s the “in” thing right now, I know. But no one should go on and on when anyone with $1,000 can get the same hair.
Kate M? You mean HRH Catherine, the Princess William (honest!), Duchess of Cambridge (and maybe a few other titles)? She hasn’t been Kate Middleton for over 4 years now! Why aren’t we (and the gossip media) calling her Princess Kate, like we called her late mother-in-law Princess Di?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3182357/Lena-Dunham-showcases-curves-printed-bikini-joking-rescued-charity-paddle-board-race.html
It’s vile to criticize someone based on looks (s)he can’t change.
…and there are plenty of men with beards and tattoos, riding their bikes along Milwaukee for the few women who also have tattoos and ride bikes.
Nobody is forcing you to get a tatto or not shave
But then again about 99% of those folks with tons of tattos and huge beards are losers, the rest work at tattoo shops killin it lol
Criticizing things people can control is fine, but criticizing someone for not being good looking enough is mean. Saying Kate M isn’t that pretty is mean. Saying a guy with a giant beard is ugly is OK.
“Saying a guy with a giant beard is ugly is OK.”
What if he has a facial issue, so that shaving is uncomfortable/painful?
In that case, then we should feel sorry for him.
Beautiful Kate
http://i61.tinypic.com/14e5urm.jpg
This was just relisted for 860k
Sold for 785K on 1/31/17