This Lakeview 3-Bedroom Sold for $53,000 Under the 2003 Price: 717 W. Briar

We last chattered about this 3-bedroom at 717 W. Briar in Lakeview in April 2011.

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See our prior chatter here.

Listed $5,100 under the 2003 price at $379,900, only Bob took a swing at a selling price – guessing $355,000 because it included the parking.

The property just sold for $332,000.

That was also $108,000 under the 2005 purchase price.

The building was converted into condos in 2002/2003.

The original listing implied that the finishes were not at the level they should be as it offered a “$5,000 upgrade credit.”

But the kitchen did have stainless steel appliances and granite counter tops.

The unit had loft-like features such as high ceilings, exposed brick and ductwork.

It also had central air, washer/dryer in the unit and garage parking.

Jeffrey Atkinson at Keller Williams Gold Coast had the listing. You can still see the interior pictures here.

Unit #2W: 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1500 square feet

  • Sold in January 2003 for $385,000
  • Sold in October 2005 for $440,000
  • Originally listed in February 2011 for $389,900
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in April 2011 at $379,900
  • Sold in July 2011 for $332,000
  • Assessments of $210 a month
  • Taxes of $6375
  • Central Air
  • Washer/Dryer
  • Bedroom #1: 18×12
  • Bedroom #2: 12×11
  • Bedroom #3: 10×9

Market Conditions: G Is Vindicated! IAR To Restate Monthly Median Price and Volumes Data

As many of you know, the Illinois Association of Realtors provides both sales volumes and the median Chicago single family home and the median condo sales prices every month.

Many regular readers of Crib Chatter know that there appeared to be some funny business with the Chicago monthly median sales prices cited by the Illinois Association of Realtors.

For several months, “G” has been posting in the comments that the data has been wrong. Not only was it too high- it was WAY too high.

Here were the May monthly median sales price numbers as provided by IAR:

Median price data over the last four years:

  • May 2008: $319,500
  • May 2009: $225,000 
  • May 2010: $230,000
  • May 2011: $238,450

 Here were the median condo prices over the prior two years:

  • May 2010: $271,150
  • May 2011: $299,000

Here was G’s response to those numbers:

“We’ve discussed this median price data before. It’s totally meaningless. All it means is that people are buying better condos than they did last year. It does NOT reflect price movement, which is still negative.”

I agree about the lack of usefulness of the median. However, the actual median for Chicago in May was $190,000. My pointing this out does not mean it is useful, just inaccurate based on the actual MLS sales. Gary, why don’t you check the median for yourself?

Chicago May MLS closed and median:
2008 2,174 $319,243
2009 1,579 $225,000
2010 2,111 $230,000
2011 1,702 $190,000

Condos only
2010 1,291 $270,000
2011 1,020 $249,762

Mary Ellen Podmolik, the Tribune’s Real Estate reporter, “acting on a tip” (has she been reading our monthly discussion of this discrepancy on Crib Chatter, perhaps?) now confirms with IAR that the data WAS wrong.

“It’s not just May,” said Mary Schaefer, a spokeswoman for the Illinois Association of Realtorsadding that the mistakes appear to go back at least through January. “We’re trying to figure out where the bug occurred. We should have caught it. We pride ourselves on having accurate data. We want to make sure there is 100 percent clean data.”

The size of the Realtors’ errors is statistically significant, at least based on the May median price for condo sales within the city. In its official report that has now been discredited, the trade group previously said that the median price of an existing condo sold in Chicago in May was $299,000, compared with $271,150 recorded in May 2010. In fact, the median price was $243,000, compared to a year-ago price of $265,000, according to data from Midwest Real Estate Data LLC, the multiple listing service for the Chicago area.

Does it matter what numbers the IAR put out in their press release?

Do buyers (and sellers) care about medians?

“Whatever they’re putting out should be correct,” said Eric Rojas, a Prudential Rubloff real estate agent in Chicago. “There’s no doubt about it. I know that people watch the news and read the papers and they’re confused by the data. When we talk to buyers and sellers, they really don’t know what’s going on.”

Still, agents say they themselves pay little attention to the numbers that are issued by real estate trade groups, whether they are local, state or national.

“Median price in the market does not matter at all,” said Stacy Karel, an @Properties agent. “It’s building or block specific. It’s a micromarket. You can’t compare east of Western (Avenue) with west of Western.” When Rojas has pulled data directly from Midwest Real Estate Data, it shows that even the best city neighborhoods remain depressed.

For instance, the median price of two-bedroom, two-bathroom condos in Chicago’s Lakeview neighborhood during the first six months of the year was down 10.5 percent on a year-over-year basis, from $380,000 in the first half of 2010 to $340,000 this year, according to information Rojas pulled from Midwest Real Estate Data.

Was it a conspiracy by IAR to keep the median sales data elevated?

The IAR seems to be blaming the MRED and the MRED appears to be blaming IAR.

Remember, G (and other agents) apparently easily generate the data themselves directly off the system.

Why couldn’t IAR do the same?

Schaefer said the group does not think any fraud is being committed. “There’s no playing with the numbers, this is technical,” she said. “It’s how the system is reading the data.”

Local multiple listing services like Midwest Real Estate Data are continually updated, and data on listings, sales and prices are fed into it by agents as they do business. Midwest Real Estate Data gathers the month’s data, generally five to seven days after the end of a month, and generates data files for U.S. House Stats, which is owned by the national association. State associations like the Illinois group generate reports based on those numbers.

Midwest Real Estate Data doesn’t think the problem is on its end.

“MRED uses a regular procedure for sending statistics to the Illinois Association of Realtors,” according to an emailed statement from CEO Russ Bergeron. “That procedure has not changed. We are completely confident in the numbers we gave to (the Illinois Association of Realtors) and we’re working with them to help them identify how this discrepancy on their end occurred.”

Congrats to G who kept this issue alive for months when no one else seemed to care.

Statistics are only as good as the data.

Where does this leave the Chicago real estate market now? (and when will we get the revised numbers?)

The IAR’s press release on this “technical error” also seems to indicate there could be inaccurate data regarding sales volumes as well. Stay tuned.

Realty trade group overreported Chicago real estate prices [Chicago Tribune, Mary Ellen Podmolik, July 11, 2011]

Illinois Association of Realtors Statement Regarding City of Chicago Housing Data [Press Release, July 11, 2011]

See our prior discussion of the May 2011 Monthly Housing data here.

3-Bedroom East Village Single Family Home Reduces Further: 1040 N. Wolcott

We’ve chattered about this 3-bedroom single family home at 1040 N. Wolcott in the East Village neighborhood of West Town several times over the last year.

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See our December 2010 chatter here.

Since it was first listed in April 2010, the house has been reduced $105,000.

Back in December 2010, when it was listed at $719,900, the old Homedelete predicted it would sell in the mid-$600,000s and chastized those who bought in 2007 as not being as “patient” as he was.

The discussion in the prior chatter is worth checking out.

The house is now listed at $674,900.

If you recall, the house was built in 2000 so it’s newer construction.

The listing says it has hardwood floors throughout.

The kitchen is described as “gourmet” and has granite counter tops.

The master bathroom has been renovated.

The family room is located on the second level and there are 2 wood burning fireplaces.

The 3 bedrooms are split, with the master bedroom on the second floor and the other two bedrooms on the third.

It has central air and a 2-car garage on a standard 25×125 lot.

It also has a great location if you are a fan of Division Street, which is just a block away.

Condos have been fairly strong sellers in this neighborhood (given the market).

Could it be that the East Village is seen more as a condo destination than one where you buy a single family home?

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Jason Vondrachek at Quest Realty still has the listing. See more pictures here.

1040 N. Wolcott: 3 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, 2 car garage, no square footage listed

  • Sold in November 2001 for $525,000
  • Sold in May 2007 for $765,000
  • Originally listed in April 2010 for $779,900
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in June 2010 for $749,900
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in December 2010 for $719,900
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed at $674,900
  • Taxes of $11,741
  • Central Air
  • Bedroom #1: 18×12 (second floor)
  • Bedroom #2: 14×14 (third floor)
  • Bedroom #3: 13×10 (third floor)

Forget the Cookie Cutter 1-Bedroom, Buy a Duplex Loft Instead: 2161 N. California in Logan Square

This 1-bedroom duplex up loft in the St. George Lofts at 2161 N. California in Logan Square (or West Bucktown- whichever you prefer) is a commuter’s dream as the California blue line stop is just a block away.

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The loft has authentic features including 15-foot timber ceilings and exposed brick as well as soaring windows.

The bedroom is on the second floor, along with a full bath,  and is open to the first floor living space.

The kitchen has cherry cabinets, granite counter tops and black appliances.

The loft has all the things buyers look for including washer/dryer in the unit, central air and deeded parking.

First listed in March 2011, the loft has been reduced $30,400.

It is now listed $10,500 under the 2004 purchase price.

Is this a deal for a starter loft in this location?

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Stephanie Sadoff at @Properties has the listing. See more pictures here.

Unit #101: 1 bedroom, 1.1 bath, no square footage listed

  • Sold in January 2001 for $182,000
  • Sold in September 2004 for $230,000
  • Originally listed in March 2011 for $249,900
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed for $219,500
  • Assessments of $215 a month
  • Taxes of $2337
  • Central Air
  • Washer/Dryer in the unit
  • Deeded parking included
  • Bedroom #1: 20×14

Bank Owned 2/2 in River North Sells: 421 W. Huron

We last chattered about this bank owned 2/2 at 421 W. Huron in River North in April 2011.

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See our prior chatter here.

At that time, it was listed at $365,000 including the parking but several of you thought it was still priced too high given the finishes of the unit, the high assessment and lack of amenities of the building.

The unit recently sold for $350,000.

At the time of our chatter, two other 01 tier units were also available in the building and those are STILL available (at the same prices as April.)

Unit #1301:

  • Currently listed for $449,000 (parking extra)
  • Last sold in April 2002 for $429,000

Unit #1401:

  • Currently listed for $445,000 (parking is $40k extra)
  • Last sold in April 2008 for $510,000
  • Sold in September 2001 for $565,000

Did someone get a deal for the location?

Arthur Cirignani at Chicago Realty Partners had the listing. You can still see pictures of the interior here.

Unit #1501: 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1500 square feet

  • Sold in June 2002 (no price listed)
  • Lis pendens filed in August 2008
  • Bank owned in July 2010
  • Was listed in April 2011 for $365,000 (parking included)
  • Sold in June 2011 for $350,000 (parking included)
  • Assessments of $797 a month (includes heat, a/c, doorman)
  • Taxes of $7278
  • Central Air
  • Washer/dryer hook-up in the unit
  • Bedroom #1: 13×13
  • Bedroom #2: 13×13
  • Den: 12×11
  • Living room: 24×18
  • Kitchen: 10×9

Buyers Still Want New Construction: 825 N. Hudson in River North

This building at 825 N. Hudson, called “The Hudson”, at the corner of Hudson and Chicago Avenue in River North was built in 2007.

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This picture was taken from Chicago Avenue- so it shows the side of the building.

It has 19 units.

The units have been on the market since 2008.

Out of those 19, it looks like 14 have now sold with 3 selling in just the last 4 months.

Unit #3C is one of the units that is still available and it is currently on the market for $339,000.

The units have granite counter tops and brazilian hardwood floors.

They also have the new construction amenities of washer/dryer in the unit, air conditioning and parking available.

Unit #2C just sold with a price of $305,000 including the parking.

Are these selling because of the affordable price point for this location?

Or because they’re “new”?

The building is also FHA approved and allows for just a 3.5% down payment.

Nancy Hearon at Jameson Sotheby’s has the listing. See some of the pictures here.

Unit #3C: 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, no square footage listed

  • Unit #2C just sold for $305,000 (including the parking)
  • Currently listed for $339,000 (parking is $30k extra)
  • Assessments of $153 a month
  • Taxes are “new”
  • Central Air
  • Washer/dryer in the unit
  • Bedroom #1: 14×16
  • Bedroom #2: 10×11

Get a Condo in the Lakewood Balmoral Historic District: 5203 N. Magnolia in Andersonville

This 2-bedroom at 5203 N. Magnolia in Andersonville has been on the market since June 2011.

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The listing describes it as being located in the Lakewood Balmoral Historic District- which is made up predominantly of single family homes.

Built in the arts and crafts style, the property still has many of its vintage features including crown moldings and built-ins.

The unit has a unique carved fireplace in the living room as well as stained glass.

There are built-in cabinets with period glass doors in the dining room.

The kitchen has a mixture of black and white appliances and 42 inch cabinets.

The unit has central air but there is no mention of a washer/dryer (is it in the building?).

There is no parking.

With a list price under $250,000, is this a good condo for someone looking for a unique starter home?

Maureen Murnane at @Properties has the listing. See the pictures here.

Unit #2N: 2 bedrooms, 1.5 baths, 1250 square feet

  • Sold in March 1993 for $124,000
  • Originally listed in June 2011 for $249,000
  • Currently still listed for $249,000
  • Assessments of $234 a month
  • Taxes of $3065
  • Central Air
  • Washer/Dryer in the building???
  • No parking
  • Bedroom #1: 19×10
  • Bedroom #2: 10×10
  • Sunroom: 9×8

“Mega money flowing into the hood”: The 5-Bedroom Greystone at 4436 N. Paulina

We last chattered about this 5-bedroom vintage greystone at 4436 N. Paulina in Uptown in October 2010.

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See our prior chatter here.

Much of the discussion centered on million dollar houses in Uptown.

This house is located north of Montrose, which puts it squarely in west Uptown (as Gary pointed out in October- Ravenswood is the dividing line between Lincoln Square and Uptown.)

The Graceland West neighborhood (also technically a part of Uptown) is considered to be south of Montrose.

The listing attempts to point out that this isn’t a neighborhood you would normally consider “uptown.”

It states: “Multimillion $$ homes everywhere. Mega money flowing into the hood.”

If you recall, the house was built in 1898.

The listing says the first two floors have been renovated.

3 out of the 5 bedrooms are on the second floor with the master bedroom on the third floor which is currently being used as a rec room (no bathroom on that floor apparently.) The 5th bedroom is also on the third floor.

The listing says the kitchen is “updated” with an open floorplan. There are cherry cabinets and stainless steel appliances.

The house is on an oversized 38×165 lot which allows for plenty of green space and a rare 3 car garage.

The listing says it is an “unbelievable price for this much house and land.”

Since our October 2010 chatter, it has been reduced $79,000.

What will it take to sell this house?

Kirste Gaudet at Coldwell Banker still has the listing. See the pictures here.

4436 N. Paulina: 5 bedrooms, 3 baths, 3 car garage, no square footage listed

  • Sold in July 2000 for $536,000
  • Originally listed in June 2009 for $1.35 million
  • Withdrawn
  • Was listed in August 2010 for $1.199 million
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in October 2010 at $1.099 million
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed at $1.02 million
  • Taxes of $12,286
  • Central Air
  • Bedroom #1: 25×22 (third floor- being used as a rec room)
  • Bedroom #2: 20×14 (second floor)
  • Bedroom #3: 15×12 (second floor)
  • Bedroom #4: 13×12 (second floor)
  • Bedroom #5: 14×10 (third floor)

Portage Park 3-Bedroom Fixer Cottage Sold: 4947 W. Pensacola

I missed the closing in the spring on this 3-bedroom cottage at 4947 W. Pensacola in Portage Park.

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We chattered about it several times. See our November 2010 chatter here.

It was an estate sale.

Most of you thought- just from looking at the pictures- that it would need extensive renovation.

At least one of you thought it would sell between $125,000 and $135,000. Some of you thought it would sell for much less.

The house sold in March 2011 for $117,500.

The house had good bones, incluging a wood burning fireplace and built-ins along with other vintage features such as beamed ceilings and the original glass door knobs.

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Marti Corcoran at Century 21 McMillen had the listing.

4947 W. Pensacola: 3 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, 2 car garage, 1094 square feet

  • Sold prior to the 1990s
  • Was listed in September 2010 as an estate sale for $199,000
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in November 2010 for $175,000
  • Sold in March 2011 for $117,500
  • Taxes of $652 (senior exemption)
  • No central air- window units
  • Bedroom #1: 13×11
  • Bedroom #2: 10×9
  • Bedroom #3: 9×8

Get a 2-Bedroom and Spectacular Views for Under $600,000: 155 N. Harbor Drive in the Loop

This 2-bedroom at Harbor Point, at 155 N. Harbor Drive, in the Loop (next door to Lakeshore East) has never ending views of Millennium Park, Grant Park, Monroe Harbor and the city skyline from its Southwest facing windows.

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Harbor Point is unmistakable, given its prominent location near Lake Shore Drive.

Built in 1974, it is a full-service building with around 740 units.

This unit was last sold in 2008 but it was sold as a fixer upper with the listing telling buyers to bring their contractors.

Since then, the property has had a “complete rehab” including new hardwood floors and a new kitchen and baths.

The kitchen has stainless steel appliances and granite counter tops and is open to the living space.

The unit has an in-unit washer/dryer and wall units for air conditioning.

There is rental parking available in the building.

Given the views and the location (and that the unit is move-in ready) would this make a good in town?

Anthony Bertani at Realty Executives has the listing. See the pictures here.

Unit #3102: 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1200 square feet

  • Sold in July 2008 for $475,000
  • Originally listed in March 2011 for $574,900
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed at $559,900
  • Assessments of $755 a month (includes pool, doorman)
  • Taxes of $4950
  • Parking is rental between $185 and $210 a month
  • Wall unit air conditioning
  • Washer/Dryer in the unit
  • Bedroom #1: 16×11
  • Bedroom #2: 14×11