Top to Bottom Renovation on a 2-Bedroom at 100 E. Huron in River North
This 2-bedroom in Chicago Place at 100 E. Huron in River North came on the market in March 2020.
Built in 1991, it originally had a shopping mall in its base and 204 condo units on the upper floors. The mall shut years ago but it still has some retail, and offices, in the base.
There’s a rental parking garage.
Chicago Place is a full service building with doormen, an indoor pool and an exercise room.
This is a corner 2-bedroom with north and west views.
The listing says it has had a “top to bottom renovation.”
That includes new 7.5 inch select grade French White Oak flooring throughout and LED lighting in all rooms.
The listing says the unit even has had a complete overhaul of all electrical including raising all switches and outlets to current code heights and installing Lutron dimmers and screwless plates.
The original windows in the building have a green frame. The listing says all windows and HVAC were sanded, primed and repainted.
There are remote controlled window treatments.
The kitchen has custom Omega cabinets, matte black kitchen hardware, quartzite counter tops with waterfall edge and JennAir NOIR custom integrated appliances.
The bathrooms have also been renovated with Robern uplift perimeter lit medicine cabinets, Toto Legato Washlet toilets, custom downlit floating vanities with soft mechanisms, Brizo matte black plumbing fixtures, and quartz and porcelain finishes.
There’s two walk-in closets.
The unit has the features buyers look for including central air, a nickel GE smart front load washer/dryer, and parking is available for rent in the building.
Originally listed in March 2020 for $825,000, it has been reduced to $749,000.
It was also listed for rent at $6,000 a month, which has been reduced to $5,500 a month.
Buyers love “new.”
Will this find a buyer at the new, lower, price?
David Mahoney at Jameson Sotheby’s has the listing (it appears to be agent-owned.) You can see pictures here.
Unit #2102: 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1365 square feet
- Sold in October 1993 for $347,000
- Sold in September 1998 for $412,000
- Sold in December 2000 for $645,000
- Sold in August 2019 for $480,000
- Originally listed in March 2020 for $825,000
- Reduced several times
- Currently listed at $749,000
- Also listed for rent in March 2020 for $6,000 a month
- Reduced
- Currently listed for rent for $5,500 a month
- Assessments of $1085 a month (includes heat, a/c, doorman, cable, exercise room, Internet, pool, exercise room, scavenger, snow removal)
- Taxes of $10,132
- Central Air
- Washer/dryer in the unit
- Parking available to rent in the building
- Bedroom #1: 15×12
- Bedroom #2: 14×12
- Living/dining combo: 25×17
- Kitchen: 13×9
- Foyer: 8×5
- Walk-in-closet: 5×5
- Walk-in-closet: 8×5
The realator is a 3rd rate Brett Easton Ellis. Calling out the paint, really? It’s not even “green”
It looks like the condo is one color
The 2000 buyer got crushed.
This flipper chose poorly. Should just list at breakeven and GTFOD.
HAWT market ™ fo sure
They paying off a special or getting hosed by not having retail/commercial in the lower levels?
What you get for $1k/mo is a joke
With all of the unknowns right now — the length and extent of shelter-in-place, likelihood of many offices going full-time remote, potential for ongoing riots, the beginning of a recession, recent (2018) significant citywide property tax hikes, unknowns during an election year — you’d have to be a little crazy to invest in River North right now.
‘Calling out the paint’
It just doesn’t have the depth of colour:
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/new-paint/4060876
They keep having to move the goalposts on finishes to look modern. The wide plank floors will look dated at some point in the future.
This place is a golden prison, go outside to walk the Yorkie and meet up with an anti-white flash mob? Does the assessments include a bodyguard?
Maybe this building still has a fast-food court? I guess you could go there. (You know, because I never lived in Chicago before, 😉 I spent 15 minutes researching this fact to confuse Sabrina)
27 years to double your money on a condo in Chicago, yikes.
When they put it up for rent you know they know they are holding the bag.
Nicer finishes than 95% of luxury apartment buildings on the market but the common amenities are still meh compared to new buildings.
I think it’ll rent for 4500 + parking
Nope- he’s never lived in Chicago. Keep that in mind.
HH is NOT living here.
A golden prison? LMFAO.
Yeah- he clearly doesn’t live here. Maybe he missed all of those people eating out at the restaurants literally 2 blocks from this building over the weekend.
“you’d have to be a little crazy to invest in River North right now.”
Just saw two $3 million+ condos close in River North in that 366 W. Superior building.
And these closed AFTER the weekend looting.
I guess everyone isn’t crazy.
It takes more than one weekend to scare Chicagoans.
What’s the story on the 2019 sale?
This is a pretty nice reno. I personally don’t care for the led lighting in the crown molding look, but it seems fairly popular.
Lack of private outdoor space would kill this for me, though, especially at this price point.
“It takes more than one weekend to scare Chicagoans.”
As noted in my original post, there are several other unknown macroeconomic factors in play. The recession and other longe term economic effects of COVID could play out for years.
“Just saw two $3 million+ condos close in River North in that 366 W. Superior building.
And these closed AFTER the weekend looting. ”
lol or you know, they bought them two months ago and didn’t want to lose their earnest money deposit for backing out of the deal
“lol or you know, they bought them two months ago and didn’t want to lose their earnest money deposit for backing out of the deal”
We don’t know if they went under contract months ago, when the building started sales, or last week.
But most rich people, if they fear for their lives, don’t care if they walk away from their earnest money on a $3.5 million condo. Do they? They aren’t like you or I.
Stock market is at record highs. Chicago has a tremendous job base in tech, finance, transportation and manufacturing jobs. If you’re buying at the $3.5 million level, you’re among the most elite of buyers. Will be interesting to see if the sales of the highest price point slow at all over the summer.
As for this unit, doesn’t it seem like they over-renovated it?
This is a nice building but I wouldn’t call it “luxury.” Yet most of these finishes are top of the line and more on the upper luxury end. Did you really need to rewire all of the outlets? A buyer in this building probably doesn’t care.
In the Palmolive they might care, but here?
It’s a lovely renovation though. Many of the units in this building still have the original kitchens, which were white cabinets, and bathrooms, which were limestone. That limestone has held up for 30 years!
“they bought them two months ago and didn’t want to lose their earnest money deposit for backing out of the deal”
Let’s say it was $250k (which is kookoo high, but we’ll use it).
If everyone’s worst fears about the death of cities are right:
that place is worth 10% less in a year. That’s more than the $250k.
if they just want to sell, full service realtor commission is nearly $200k.
transfer tax on the buy side (at $3m) is $22,500; on the sell, $13,500.
a year of property tax on the condo is ~$50k.
Are they really going to spend $500k to protect $250k? And, much more realistically, to protect ~2%, or $50,000?
That’s just an unrealistic worry.
Also, there were many CRE transactions in March and April where buyers walked away from 8 figures of earnest money, so it does happen even when real $$ are at issue.
This:
“complete overall of all electrical including raising all switches and outlets to current code heights & installing Lutron dimmers & screwless plates”
sounds like a union electrician who ‘refuses’ to install new stuff without updating everything to code.
“Aprilaire 865”
For use where you can’t install a humidifier on the HVAC system!
“Maybe this building still has a fast-food court?”
That closed just more than a decade ago. And every post on the internet about Chicago Place being mostly empty mentions the food court as the remaining thing. Hell, the Emporis listing for the tower mentions the food court.
Nice Reno but the price is a tad rich for this building.
Colleague of mine bought a 3 bed that was quite a bit more spacious in the 8**’s. I will say she had to basically gut the kitchen and bathrooms though so her all in cost was likely closer to 900k.
I agree that 4500+ parking for rent is pretty reasonable. Place just feels too small to buy at 750k price point.
I’m hearing ‘chatter’ from some real estate attorneys I know that buyers are walking away from contracts for Chicago properties, sometimes forfeiting five figure earnest monies…the suburban flight is real, very real, and that leaked conference phone with Lori and her aldermanic minions describing the breakdown of the thin veneer their Democrat constituents barely maintain. Thanks Ald. Lopez, you just scared away a generation of Chicago residents. This conference call has become an international news story around the world as they all wring their hands scared that the mob has gotten out of control:
““Once they’re done looting and rioting and whatever’s going to happen tonight, God help us, what happens when they start going after residents? Going into the neighborhoods? Once they start trying to break down people’s doors, if they think they’ve got something,” he said.
“We know that people are here to antagonize and incite, and you’ve got them all pumped tonight, today. They’re not going to go to bed at 8 o’clock. They’re going to turn their focus on the neighborhoods. I’ve got gang-bangers with AK-47s walking around right now, just waiting to settle some scores. What are we going to do, and what do we tell residents, other than good faith people stand up? It’s not going to be enough,” Lopez added.”
FYI Ald. Lopez is on Laura on Fox News *right now* spreading the good word about Chicago’s terrible Democrat mob problem.
The new motto isn’t “buy now or be priced out forever!” It’s “Sell Now or be stuck in Chicago forever!”
I mean, Ald. Lopez says the residents of his ward are about to start looting people’s homes in his ward!
What will happen with the next riot?
“What you get for $1k/mo is a joke”
This is cheap for a full service building in a building with just 204 units.
Includes heat, a/c which is several hundreds a month in both seasons. Cable and internet which would be over $100 to $250 if you had to get it on your own without being able to use the mass numbers to negotiate. They have the full package with high speed and all the specialized cable movie channels, although most just want Netflix these days probably. Lol.
Doormen cost and it’s 24/7. Probably have a contingent of 10-15 doormen. Also maintenance men. Smaller building so how many? 3 to 5?
Pool and exercise room both cost.
Need someone to handle the packages. A package room attendant?
Do they have on-site building management? Or is it done off site? It’s not that big of a building, so might be off site. Still costs.
HOA just $1085? Seems cheap to me.
“What will happen with the next riot?”
The gaslighting is so strong right now it’s laughable. HD- you don’t even live in the city of Chicago. What “riot”???
There were 2 days of looting. That’s it.
People are out at the parks working on their suntans. Sitting outside at the restaurants, finally able to eat meals. The hotels are reopening.
Let’s get going Chicago.
“the suburban flight is real, very real, and that leaked conference phone with Lori and her aldermanic minions describing the breakdown of the thin veneer their Democrat constituents barely maintain.”
Sure Jan.
The contract activity is higher than a year ago. Maybe they’re all buying on the South Side instead of the North? I don’t know. But those contracts would have to counter the ones everyone is canceling and fleeing for, right? Since it’s higher than a year ago?
LMFAO.
By the way, they boarded up downtown Downers Grove last week and downtown Naperville, after the looting there.
So the “suburbs” aren’t exempt from the “riots”.
Lol.
“The gaslighting is so strong right now it’s laughable. HD- you don’t even live in the city of Chicago. What “riot”???
There were 2 days of looting. That’s it. ”
And you accuse me of gaslighting? Try rereading your comment again, and again, and again, for as many hours as necessary until “2 days of looting. That’s it” starts to sink in.
I know someone who had a weekend condo on a high floor in this building. The views were amazing. I believe the original finishes included Scavolini cabinets and SubZero. I think it was “high end” for when it was built, but now it is time for updating. Most remodeled resales in this building do not seem as high end as the featured unit. Perhaps flippers have chosen slightly lesser finishes because of certain design characteristics of the building? You have to take two elevators to get to your unit, units do not have on demand AC when the building is heating, electric cooktop, single bowl sink in master bath, and leased parking come to mind as potential negatives when compared to “newer” construction. In addition, many units have not updated. How does one justify an expensive renovation when you cannot change the limitations of the building overall? Also, unit 3904 had a long market time even with updating.
4500 a month rent on this was the old market. If things return to normal it can get there. All the lux building with worse unit features but better ameneties were in that neighborhood. They are all advertising 2 months free rent now so this can probably only get 3500 today.
Chicago has issues now. And they just lost a year or two of new graduates settling in. The city has struggled to keep those people as they progress deeper into their career. Chicago has some major benefits but the unions have killed the cities. Might be something blm and conservatives would agree on. Driven up tax rates and it’s not like the schools or crime rates are doing just fine.
And I would be legitimately fearful this new inequality movement will just further drive up desires to spend more money on a city that’s already pushing a tax burden above any other city that isn’t a coastal city that’s number one in a global industry (finance, tech, entertainment).
“ This is cheap for a full service building in a building with just 204 units.
Includes heat, a/c which is several hundreds a month in both seasons. Cable and internet which would be over $100 to $250 if you had to get it on your own without being able to use the mass numbers to negotiate. They have the full package with high speed and all the specialized cable movie channels, although most just want Netflix these days probably. Lol.
Doormen cost and it’s 24/7. Probably have a contingent of 10-15 doormen. Also maintenance men. Smaller building so how many? 3 to 5?”
Ok boomer
You really must be an old. If you’re spending “several” hundreds (say $300) heating and cooling a 1300 sf, you must be keeping the heat at 80F. You would think all your cats would keep you warm
Cable and internet at $250? Only the olds would do this.
15 doormen? I hope you aren’t in charge of managing anything or handling other people’s money
You have no cue if they have on site maintenance and 3-5? LOFL. This isn’t an ultra Luxe condo.
“Pool and exercise room both cost.
Need someone to handle the packages. A package room attendant?
Do they have on-site building management? Or is it done off site? It’s not that big of a building, so might be off site. Still costs.”
Again with the just making shit up wrt the package room attendant. With the absurd detail, they probably would have mentioned that. Why not say they have 200 ass wipers for the condo owners
Doorman won’t be ultra busy as it’s only 200 units they can manage the packages
Listing says on site management
“HOA just $1085? Seems cheap to me.”
No one accused you of being smart.
My concern about buying in this building would be the impact of losing the retail space and the loss of revenue to the building. I would want to know if the condo association owns that retail space. It might not be part of the association.
I am so glad my assessments don’t include cable. Many high-rises are locked into long-term contracts with the cable companies, but streaming is becoming more prevalent, and allows more flexibility in pricing and selection. I think fewer than 1/3 of the owners in my building still have cable.
I think the space is over-improved for that building.
“There were 2 days of looting. That’s it.”
False.
““There were 2 days of looting. That’s it.”
False.”
Two days, or four or six or whatever many days, when is that ever OK? The answer for law abiding citizens is NEVER. Not for the blackhawks, not for the bulls, not for George Floyd, not for systemic racism, two days of widespread looting and mayhem is NEVER acceptable. The citizens of Chicago resorted to vigilantism to protect their neighborhoods, and the criminals literally ran wild, as Chicago had its most murders EVER in a 24 hour period. They keep saying “in 60 years” because records from U of C only go back 60 years, so unless there was a weekend in the 50’s or the 20’s that was deadlier, that 24 hour period in May was the likely it.
And the scary part is that it can happen again, at any moment, for any reason. The unemployment rate in Chicago right now is astronomical due to Lori and JB’s awful lockdowns, and most of the south and west side commercial strips have been looted or burned to the ground. The extra $600 a week unemployment benefits run out in a few weeks and its going to be a long hot summer as we heat up for the election. What other seemingly random fake news story will set the mobs into a frenzy? Will Trump say something stupid and they burn down city hall? Will a white police officer in france injure or kill a nigeran suspect in France? Will BLM make an actual call to arms? Will it be like Rwanda, where the local unauthorized media incited riots and directed crowds to genocide over a few week period? But instead of low power radio, will it be closed facebook or instagram or twitter DM’s? That Jack and Mark can’t control, because they’re too busy worrying about censoring political figures to stop the actual mass criminal organizing on their platforms? How do you think all the mass looting took place with multiple people suddenly flash mobbing at the same seemingly deserted store within seconds? They’re all organizing on social media. (But no evidence of antifa in Chicago, just local concerned protestors letting off steam lighting fires in Walgreens and camera stores!).
Chicago – you did this to yourself. Chicago real estate is cratering before our very eyes. EVen my far out suburban community is seeing new contracts like never before – expensive Jumbo loan sizes houses that languished on the market for months are suddenly selling in a market frenzy. Everyone with school aged children is leaving as quickly as possible. new college grads, and even potential college students, are thinking twice about Chicago. residents of heavily affected communities, with nowhere to shop now, for weeks, or months, will be packing up their belongings and moving to the suburbs. And since evictions are paused – indefinitely (or until the pandemic is over, likely forever), tenants have stopped paying rent and are disappearing into the suburbs, never to be found or served with eviction papers again. It would have been better to have a natural disaster, because at least people would be ready to rebuild. But this manmade disaster is causing people to flee, big time. I spoke with someone who manages office leases downtown, and there is significant interest in breaking leases, and moving out of downtown. Few have been downtown to their office in months anyways, it’s a ghost town lately, no one wants to take the metra train or CTA in.
HH, despite his offensive and unnecessary tone, is correct. That city council phone heard around the world was a disaster of epic proportions. It devolved into two elected officials with high intersectionality scores cursing at each other, with other alder-persons with lower intersectionality scores trying to get in a word edgewise. The world is laughing at you Chicago, laughing hysterically. Do you think China, with one billion people, is concerned with a police officer giving the middle finger to a protestor? Do you think India, with a billion diverse peoples, is concerned that an officer used a ‘homophobic’ slur in an altercation with a known criminal element? Are these actions acceptable?? Of course not, but when compared to, you know, Pullman being burned the ground, they’re really very far down on the list of things to worry about to 99.9% of residents.
But to Lori and her intersectionality squad, her intent is to convert the Chicago police Department from a crime fighting organization into brown shirt PC enforcing stazi. They’ll haul you off to a gulag for using a first amendment protected racist slur but let you burn every dollar store to the ground, as long as it wasn’t done using any offensive language.
I cannot overstate what a disaster and an embarrassment that conference call was. Everyone in the country knows about it, the news media all reported long segments on it. Laura Ingram spent half her show last night about it. Every talk radio show in teh country took calls about it. That conference call united the country in mockery of Chicago.
https://theharrispoll.com/the-american-dream-remodeled/
an interesting recent survey
“There were 2 days of looting. That’s it.”
False.
Unpossible.
Karen is educated and reads things
“It devolved into two elected officials with high intersectionality scores cursing at each other, with other alder-persons with lower intersectionality scores trying to get in a word edgewise.”
What do you think the conversations were like on Saturday night HD?
Are you that much of a snowflake?
You are in the suburbs so you had no idea the level of violence and chaos that was in the city on Saturday night. None. But the mayor and alderman sure did. Limited resources as the police were overmatched. They were trying to keep people alive. The looting was secondary. I’m surprised they got any of the U-Haul looters, to be honest. But apparently there were a few of those arrested.
It was like a massive wilding. No way to stop it.
And thankfully it wasn’t repeated. Closing down access to the downtown by cars and public transport really helped.
I have friends who live on the South Side, do you HD?
You live in Long Grove and never even come into the city. So stop with the tirades about Pullman, which was fine.
When there is injustice, sometimes property violence is necessary.
It was necessary in 1968 and now in 2020.
And, HD, if you really think it can happen “at any time” then you really need to stop watching Fox and figure out what is actually going on with the protests.
I really recommend people begin by reading the New York Times 1619 Project for further background. And there are lists of books and other places you can get more information.
And, HD, since you’re out in some far out suburb somewhere, the downtown is actually pretty alive right now. It’s not 2 months ago when there was literally no one walking down the street.
The loop is busier. It’s about a Saturday level down there. But we’ve only just started opening up so businesses are being cautious. No one wants to take Metra right now so that is limiting the number of people who are going to go back to their offices.
It will be interesting to see how many tourists return, even with no events.
“False.”
The Verasce was looted for more than 2 days? Please, do tell.
It was Saturday night and nervousness on Sunday, but nothing happened. The looters looted other neighborhoods on Sunday. And then went to the burbs.
The burbs are not Chicago.
“I am so glad my assessments don’t include cable. Many high-rises are locked into long-term contracts with the cable companies, but streaming is becoming more prevalent, and allows more flexibility in pricing and selection. I think fewer than 1/3 of the owners in my building still have cable.”
I’ve wondered for a while, Anne, when this will become an issue in some buildings.
Buildings with higher assessments are ditching the cable/Internet because if you strip it out of the assessment, it can significantly reduce it. So instead of $600 a month, it suddenly is $500 a month. Only then the owner still has to go out into the open market and try and negotiate for the Internet (as usually the cable providers want both included in the deal.) And without the ability to get group pricing, you will pay more.
It could be $150 or more, even if you get rid of cable and simply get the various streaming services (depending on what you get.)
This will be a generational fight going forward. The “older” the owners in a building, the more likely they are to want to keep the cable/Internet package. But eventually, many buildings will probably ditch it.
“If you’re spending “several” hundreds (say $300) heating and cooling a 1300 sf, you must be keeping the heat at 80F.”
It faces west. Even with black out shades, the A/C is on continuously for several months every summer. Heat will depend on how cold the winter is but some Jan/Febs will be that high for this much square footage.
You’ve clearly never lived in a high rise JohnnyU.
Do you know how many packages come in just one day in a building with 200 units? LMFAO. During something like the pandemic, hundreds. They all must be scanned and logged in. Notifications sent out. Some delivered to the units.
The doorman isn’t there to be the package guy.
Again, you’ve clearly never lived in a modern high rise.
This assessment is appropriate for a 1991 building. The fewer units you have, the more the burden. So I’m surprised it’s this low with just 204 units.
“Driven up tax rates and it’s not like the schools or crime rates are doing just fine.”
Um…schools and crime are the best in decades.
“And you accuse me of gaslighting? Try rereading your comment again, and again, and again, for as many hours as necessary until “2 days of looting. That’s it” starts to sink in.”
Please show me all the articles where there was looting in River North for more than even a day.
LMFAO.
Stop gaslighting HD. Just stop it.
“When there is injustice, sometimes property violence is necessary.”
That’s BS Sabrina and you know it. It wasn’t just property violence – it never is.
There were 25 or something murders in a 24 hour period. The city burned, the stores were looted and it was utter mayhem.
The nazis thought it was justified to break the windows of every jewish owned business in 1938 – it was justice for the germans who were oppressed by the jews who were destroying germany. They teach you about that in school. The night of broken glass. It was just property damage of the jews who destroyed Germany, for justice. That justice devolved into the holocaust, in our grandparents’ lifetime.
So said the Hutus who slaughted 800,000 Tutsis in Rwanda in 100 days. Why? For the injustice they caused. It started just with buring villages and looting and ultimately ended with the infamous machete, that chopped off hands. There are surgeries that developed out of that time, to split the ulna and radius, to give the people who lost their hands in the genocide some measure of autonomy. This happened in our lifetime.
What about Mao? His Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution sought to remedy in the ‘injustice’ of the powers in control, also started with taking the property of the elites, and ultimately ended up with nearly 20,000,000 were slaughtered for the cause. It’s still ongoing, as China has 1,000,000 people in ethic concentration camps as we speak, because of the injustices they cause the CCP.
You can’t ever justify violence, not property violence, not for anything.
“When there is injustice, sometimes property violence is necessary.
It was necessary in 1968 and now in 2020. ”
100% wrong.
Violence is a tenet of an uneducated society and is never necessary.
Violence is taken as a short cut method for the resolution of conflicts
here you go do some reading by an actual intelligent person rather than some america hating communist fuckhead https://www.mkgandhi.org/articles/Satyabrata.htm
then again you’re probably just trolling like always
““When there is injustice, sometimes property violence is necessary.
It was necessary in 1968 and now in 2020. ”
100% wrong.”
She’s just romanticizing violence for what she see’s as a just cause. Pretty common for folks that haven’t seen the effects of its use (and todate whats happened isn’t the use of violence). Pink Pussy Hats aren’t an effective shield
But Fuck Yeah, lets all get our Purge on!
Sabrina on June 9th, 2020 at 9:08 pm:
“The gaslighting is so strong right now it’s laughable. HD- you don’t even live in the city of Chicago. What “riot”???
There were 2 days of looting. That’s it.”
Sabrina on June 10th:
When did the “city of Chicago” get distilled down to “The Verasce” [sic], or just River North??
That’s some pathological bullshit.
“When there is injustice, sometimes property violence is necessary.
It was necessary in 1968 and now in 2020.”
It’s necessary for dumb fucks to take advantage of the situation and steal stuff?
The various tagging, burning cop cars, (elsewhere) toppling of monuments, sure. But what’d Foot Locker do?
“The various tagging, burning cop cars, (elsewhere) toppling of monuments, sure. ”
Nonsense and dangerous rhetoric. Justice comes from the ballot box. That’s why we have a republican form of government. It’s not my fault the aggrieved always vote Democrat and get no results. Maybe they should stop voting for Democrats. Republicans are mostly happy with their government. Trump has a 90% approval rating among Republicans. And when republicans were unhappy – like in 2009, they formed the Tea Party and swept 1,000 Democrats out of office nationwide between 2010-2016, culminating with the republican’s dominance of all three branches of government in 2016-2018. Good times for Republicans. The aggreived looters and riots should get their butts to the ballot box and vote for someone other than the token Democrat they continually put up for office every election. But they don’t, the aggrieved just riot and tear down Columbus statutes, not even recognizing that those statutes were put up in response to America’s largest mass lynching – 11 Sicilians – who were subjected to the same mob mentality that the rioters and protestors are experiencing today.
There’s a silent majority out there right now scared of the mob, scared to say anything against the purge of wrongthink that is occurring across the country. But rest assured, they will show up at the ballot box in great numbers in November to put an end to this silly insurrection once and for all.
HD’s reading from the same listserv as theHof.
cc’s lying whining troll followed his recent post claiming 100% of Democrats are racist with “…Justice comes from the ballot box. That’s why we have a republican form of government…”
djt & hd/jan’s R party are & have been doing everything in their power to supress voting by black & brown voters (see recent elections in WI, GA & NC). While it’s ok for others to vote by mail, dt suspects it might result in Dem wins (oops dt meant to say fraud). Never mind it was solely Republicans who recently hijacked & filed after completing hundreds of ‘collected’ absentee votes in NC and then disputed whether the congressional election won by Republican cheating needed be redone. Wadda lying pos
More lies from SB, CC’s resident stalker.
It’s not so much mail in voting that’s the problem, it’s the ‘ballot harvesting’ that goes along with mail in voting, which is ripe with fraud. Watch the videos online from California where people show up at neighborhood doors saying “I’m from the democratic party, I’m here to help you complete your ballot, it’s a service of the democrat party….”
But even that sometimes fails, as Republicans just won a seat in California on mostly mail in ballots.
Becareful what you wish for SB, because you could actually get it.
“it’s a service of the democrat party….”
Just to be clear–that means that the person is from the republican party.
“Just to be clear–that means that the person is from the republican party.”
That’s a lie. Go watch the vids…
“But rest assured, they will show up at the ballot box in great numbers in November to put an end to this silly insurrection once and for all.”
Insurrection?
Wow.
That word says it all.
By the way, Georgia is now in play for the Democrats. Let’s recap those “red” states that could go blue this electoral season in the presidential election:
1. Georgia
2. Texas
3. Arizona
If even one of those goes blue, it’s game over for this president. But then, we already knew it was game over. Just a matter of how many Senate seats Biden pulls with him.
More lies “..it’s the ‘ballot harvesting’ that goes along with mail in voting, which is ripe with fraud. Watch the videos online from California where people show up at neighborhood doors saying “I’m from the democratic party, I’m here to help you complete your ballot, it’s a service of the democrat party….”
PLikely a lie – no link to “watch the vids…” but hd described exactly what Repubs did in ’18 NC congressional election:
Here’s from “How Republicans Tried to Rig an Election in North Carolina (And Almost Got Away With It)” in GQ:
gq.com/story/north-carolina-ninth-district-fraud:
“..one Leslie McRae Dowless Jr., a longtime fixture of Bladen County politics … And Dowless, it turned out, paid a team to go door-to-door in mostly rural areas, collect unfinished absentee ballots from unsuspecting voters, and bring them to him for completion. In a series of sworn affidavits, witnesses stated that Dowless described himself as “doing absentee” for Harris, and bragged that he was being paid in cash.It appears that Dowless ran versions of this grift in previous contests, too. Since 2010, officials received at least a half-dozen complaints about his shady practices in the region, according to the AP.”
jan/hd can try to distract via bs and lying but facts trip up those lies
I moved into this building last year. There are two doormen at the desk from 7am-11pm and one overnight. Two building engineers, several maintenance staff, one receiving manager and two onsite property managers. They are all over-the-top accomodating to all needs of the owners. I personally don’t need much but they’ll do anything for tenants, from changing a lightbulb to fixing a drain to helping an elderly resident clean out her belongings. I’ve only lived in two buildings downtown but I can’t imagine any building having a more friendly and accomodating staff. The residents are mostly 40+ and still working but there’s a fairly large group in their 20s and 30s. There’s a dry cleaner on the premises and “free” Starbucks coffee. The interior is kept in immaculate condition and beautiful fresh flowers are swapped out weekly. The sky lounge on the 9th floor is actually very cool.I would not hesitate to recommend this building, and I’m a very picky yelper who has no problem at all pointing out where businesses need to improve. Off the top of my head I can’t think of a single thing I’d recommend to change here.