Design Your Own Dream Loft in River North: 152 W. Huron

This full floor raw space at 152 W. Huron in River North is waiting to be built out.

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It is 4000 square feet with 14 foot ceilings and exposed brick.

The loft is 45 feet across and has south, north and eastern views. There is also an elevator that opens directly into the unit.

As you can see from the pictures, you need some vision to imagine your home here.

There is a south facing balcony and a common roofdeck. It also includes one garage parking space.

If you need some direction on what the space could look like, check out Unit #3 which just came on the market for $2.1 million.

It is a modern loft space with 3 bedrooms and 3.5 baths. Jennifer Ames at Coldwell Banker has that listing. See the interior pictures here.

At the current list price on Unit #4, is this a deal for someone who wants to customize?

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Sam Shaffer at Chicago Properties Inc. has the listing. See more pictures here.

Unit #4: 4000 square feet of raw space, 1 garage parking space

  • Sold in July 2003 for $870,000
  • Originally listed in July 2010
  • Currently listed for $699,000
  • Assessments of $1566 a month (includes heat and gas)
  • Taxes of $15,433
  • Central Air

95 Responses to “Design Your Own Dream Loft in River North: 152 W. Huron”

  1. Holy crap – I want this place. I think it is a phenomenal deal and will sell very quickly. Seriously, this place is a contractor/decorator’s dream. I just hope I get to see it before Westloop!!!!

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  2. There is one cool one for sale in the building for about 2.1 million
    check that out as well for comparison

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  3. that 2.1M comparison is unreal!

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  4. to be negative Nancy on this one….

    …WTF 4000sqft and you only get on parking spot?

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  5. The thing that will prevent this unit from selling is the fact that nobody is going to give you a mortgage on this place- it will almost certainly have to be sold for cash. Then they buyer will likely have to put in at least 500k to finish it (again, cash). Not many people have 1.1 million in cash (and 1 year) to invest in a place before moving in. However, if you do, this would be an AWESOME project and investment.

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  6. “that 2.1M comparison is unreal!”

    Sabrina, didn’t you feature that property on here before?

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  7. The $2.1MM place is pretty awesome (is that a crazy sink in pic 25 or a really elevated bidet or something?). What’s the sound insulation like in these units? I can’t help thinking of little DZ rampaging around and the poor people below.

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  8. “I can’t help thinking of little DZ rampaging around and the poor people below.”

    They have (or have over frequently) a ~3-4 yo–check the kinderzeet.

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  9. “is that a crazy sink in pic 25 or a really elevated bidet or something?”

    perhaps a urinal?

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  10. “~3-4 yo–check the kinderzeet”

    Did you estimate the age range from height and position of seat setting and child growth charts?

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  11. No need to move on this one, it will definately go to foreclosure.

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  12. valasko, how can you be so sure. what if the owner doesn’t owe anything on it? Actually, I just looked at the dates again – did someone really buy this in 2003 and keep it empty (paying 32k/year in assm.and taxes) for 7 years!!!! That doesn’t make sense.

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  13. Wow the comp is just unbelievable. I am looking through the pics and trying to figure out just how much they spent. I’d have guessed $1+m from raw space. The custom woodwork is sensational and the trim level fantastic.

    Not sure about the ‘elevated bidet’ it looks a lot like a urinal to me but hard to fault otherwise.

    Very interesting building the Cooper 152. 6th floor seems to have a weird layout and sold pre-foreclosure for $895k finished (at a very average level for this end of market) back in April. 5th floor rented for $6k/month in May (seems to be a well finished loft although I am sure nothing like Unit 3).

    If you’re a buyer of RN and have $1.5m to spend then I can think of few things I’d rather do than develop this.

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  14. “If you’re a buyer of RN and have $1.5m to spend then I can think of few things I’d rather do than develop this”

    Really? really?!!! If anyone was spending 1.5 million on a place here, they would LOVE to have the opportunity to design a place around their lifestyle. Buying someone else’s vision is OK for lower end properties, but not for someone who has 1.5 million in cash to spend. I’m not talking necessarily about myself, but I am around these types of people and, believe me, they WILL pay a premium for new and something that they designed for themselves.

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  15. clio,

    grammar misunderstanding – I said ‘few’ not ‘a few’. I agree for $1.5m this is exactly the kind of thing a bespoke buyer would want to do.

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  16. “Did you estimate the age range from height and position of seat setting and child growth charts?”

    Not child growth charts–memory from our kinderzeet(s).

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  17. sorry neo… we’re on the same page

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  18. “valasko, how can you be so sure. what if the owner doesn’t owe anything on it? Actually, I just looked at the dates again – did someone really buy this in 2003 and keep it empty (paying 32k/year in assm.and taxes) for 7 years!!!! That doesn’t make sense.”

    Clio, you’re right IF the owner owes it outright (probably does). Boy what a waste of money if they have held this place vacant for 7 years.

    This is raw space, which is almost impossible to finance. I think there is a very limited pool of buyers for this type of property in this environment.

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  19. Clio, if your interested why don’t you throw out a low ball offer… what do you have to loose.

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  20. ….your ability to spell correctly?

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  21. This seller has turned down 450k cash offer.

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  22. “Clio, if your interested why don’t you throw out a low ball offer… what do you have to loose”

    600k and 3200/month plus 500k+ to re-do the place. However, if someone bought my in-town, I would buy this place in a heartbeat!! I’m sure there would be no complaints from the neighbors about my behavior (they would never see me!!).

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  23. ” loose.”

    /facepalm

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  24. danny (lower case D) on November 16th, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    When I get around to developing my dream pad, it will definitely have a bidet.

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  25. “Not child growth charts–memory from our kinderzeet”

    hahaahahaah anon went yuppie on that purchase 🙂 but seriously we almost bought a stokee trap-something highchair when rightstart on clyborn was going out of business. brought wife back the next day and all five were gone.

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  26. I think unit 4 is the better deal. It has better views and light than does unit 3. Unit 3 is fabulous the only drawbacks are – one parking space, no doorman (at this price and assessment I want some amenities (though you probably won’t get elevator delivery into a unit with a doorman), and the lack of light. Very few windows – the unit is dark and sexy, but at some point light is nice. If you notice the view in unit 3 is not great and there is an empty lot by the kitchen window. At somepoint this will be a buildng (likely highrise) which will cut the light and the view further. Its fabulous….just saying light, view and building amenties could be better.

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  27. “loose”
    /damn iphone

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  28. “This seller has turned down 450k cash offer.”

    I was thinking 400-500k would get this place sold….. interested to see what this place goes for.

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  29. Kinderzeat and Tripp Trapp – is it the same chair? I’m definitely getting one for the second baby, plastic monster for Babies’R Us was crap.

    As long we are talking about kids again – anything regarding Newberry Math and Science Academy? is it worth applying to it or should we better stick to Lincoln?

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  30. oh shit it’s the kid’s stuff again, and schools again, someone shoot me please.

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  31. “I was thinking 400-500k would get this place sold….. interested to see what this place goes for.”

    If the person owns this outright, he/she probably has enough money to hold it until it makes sense to sell. Maybe he/she thinks that if he/she held it for 5 years, it may bring 900-1000k (which it could). Then, the 32k/year doesn’t seem too bad of an idea. A smart buyer may want to see if the owner was willing to do a contract sale or owner financing. It could be a win-win situation.

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  32. “oh shit it’s the kid’s stuff again, and schools again, someone shoot me please”

    312forever, we had a inglesina highchair that lookd out of tron or something. it didnt go with the decor and so its being used at the in-laws.
    we have a fisher price zen high chair that we love and looks good too. 2 things we do wish the tray was larger or that it could go trayless and be moved up to the table.

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  33. Clio,

    “If the person owns this outright, he/she probably has enough money to hold it until it makes sense to sell. Maybe he/she thinks that if he/she held it for 5 years, it may bring 900-1000k (which it could). Then, the 32k/year doesn’t seem too bad of an idea. A smart buyer may want to see if the owner was willing to do a contract sale or owner financing. It could be a win-win situation.”

    Ok in your owner financing deal the purchaser doesn’t have enough cash for the downpayment, and the property isn’t livable. Now you need to get a construction loan how is the purchase going to swing that.

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  34. Grooove, you killing me!

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  35. ##### you=your damn iphone.

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  36. “Ok in your owner financing deal the purchaser doesn’t have enough cash for the downpayment, and the property isn’t livable. Now you need to get a construction loan how is the purchase going to swing that.”

    No – if someone was a general contractor (or knew one) and had 200-500k to spend (but not 1million), they could make it work. This opens the field to many more people out there.

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  37. Wait a minute, I just thought – why are assessments so high in such a small building? There is no pool, no exercise room, no huge driveway or lawn. The roof has just been done and I assume the mechanicals should be in good shape considering the building was overhauled in the past 20 years. It doesn’t make any sense…..

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  38. “hahaahahaah anon went yuppie on that purchase but seriously we almost bought a stokee trap-something highchair when rightstart on clyborn was going out of business. brought wife back the next day and all five were gone.”

    I was thinking the same thing, but then realized I have way too much yuppie kid stuff myself.

    “Kinderzeat and Tripp Trapp – is it the same chair? I’m definitely getting one for the second baby, plastic monster for Babies’R Us was crap.”

    I had to google kinderzeet/zeat when anon mentioned earlier, but seems to be precursor to tripp trapp (which is waht it was called when I was looking). Svan is another candidate. I think one diff is svan has a baby tray option, but may be more of a pain to clean.

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  39. Clio, maybe but highly unlikely imho. Plus this is raw space, I don’t think your going to build it out for 200k, thats only $50.00 sf which doesn’t buy much. You could easly spend that on the kitchen alone.

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  40. valasko,
    maybe you are right – but I still want to have this in my portfolio. Where/when else are you going to get this type of raw space in this type of area at this price?!!!! The only thing that I feel a little uncomfortable about are those taxes/assessments. If those were less than 1.5k/month, I would jump on it.

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  41. Little villager will be in a Trip Trapp. Stroller advice anyone? We’re thinking BOB…

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  42. holy christ I need to move out of the village…

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  43. “I was thinking the same thing, but then realized I have way too much yuppie kid stuff myself.”

    as “real” and down to earth we try to be in the groove household. we went *OVER The TOP* on baby/toddler stuff!!! half the stuff given away still had tags on it or still in the box.

    I found once you walk out of hanna anderson not “feeling” ripped off then you have crossed to the darkside

    *not the lincoln hawk over the top

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  44. roscoevillager,

    Bugaboo, one of the best things I ever bought. It’s expensive but I sold it on CL for 80% of the purchase price after two years of daily use.

    Valasco is going to kill us:))).

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  45. “Little villager will be in a Trip Trapp. Stroller advice anyone? We’re thinking BOB…”

    My view is a Bob Rev (case can be made for either the regular or the 12 AW) and a very stripped down Maclaren. Groove has more strollers than clio has cars.

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  46. valasko,
    maybe you are right – but I still want to have this in my portfolio. Where/when else are you going to get this type of raw space in this type of area at this price?!!!! The only thing that I feel a little uncomfortable about are those taxes/assessments. If those were less than 1.5k/month, I would jump on it.

    Clio, $15,000 includes heat and air, and its 4,000 sf of uninsulated loft space. I would keep an eye on this one, at some point the developer may throw in the towel and you can pick this up for a song…..

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  47. “Bugaboo, one of the best things I ever bought. It’s expensive but I sold it on CL for 80% of the purchase price after two years of daily use”

    we would have bought one of those but we are two car family took too many steps to fold and toss in the trunk.

    ok dont get me started on strollers i can go on for days, and guess what we F’ing dont even use the darn things unless more than two hour trips. we are horrible parents (call DCFS) and make him walk, if he wants to nap it will be on daddy’s shoulder.

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  48. DZ,
    312 no worries, have almost reached the airport and will be heading to the lounge for a few drinks.

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  49. Thnking a snap N go for the trunk of the car and the revoloution for most everything else. I just can’t justify the bugaboo expense. Other than it being in Sex in the City why is it everyone’s dream stroller?

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  50. “Thnking a snap N go for the trunk of the car and the revoloution for most everything else.”

    Baby wearing is also very trendy, especially in RV (Be By Baby). Not a bad option for the younger months, especially if you’re not the one doing the wearing. Ergo is popular.

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  51. “Thnking a snap N go for the trunk of the car and the revoloution for most everything else. I just can’t justify the bugaboo expense. Other than it being in Sex in the City why is it everyone’s dream stroller?”

    skip the BOB unless you go for hikes once a weak, its wasted for city purposes and just too dammmn large. a City Mini can easily handle a ride on the blue line to a day at botanic gardens. it also can haelp you skip the expense of the snap and go.

    but seriuosly the snap and go is like $60 and worth every gash darn penny and in 9 months craigslist it for $40.

    i will put in a huge rec for the quinny zapp for traveling and all around awesomeness except on gravel or dirt trails.

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  52. “Stroller advice anyone?”

    Three: (i) Orbit (for newborn through mid-2’s; splurge and get the bassinett/cradle; get the toddler stroller seat, but skip the toddler car seat); (ii) Bob Revolution (for running and for longer distance post-mid’2’s strolling); and (iii) Maclaren Volo (for flying, and for trips to places like the museum, aquarium, etc., where they’re out and walking half of the time anyways).

    A fourth that, while we don’t have it, comes highly recommended (and we might break down and get, retiring the Orbit toddler as our primary stroller): Baby Jogger City Urban Terrain.

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  53. What the hell is a “Maclaren Volo”, is it some type of exotic car that Clio would buy?

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  54. yep – picked one up at a Mom to Mom sale out in MI last week – cheap as hell.

    “but seriuosly the snap and go is like $60 and worth every gash darn penny and in 9 months craigslist it for $40.”

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  55. “I was thinking the same thing, but then realized I have way too much yuppie kid stuff myself. ”

    Had you suggested the same thing Groove did, I’d have brought up the fancypants underpants. Warm or no, more yuppie than assemble yourself chairs (yes, two) purchased on the intertubez (no tax, shipping included).

    And Groove–the man with 42 strollers, half more expensive than I would seriously consider–lives in a paper-thin glass house on the subject.

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  56. “And Groove–the man with 42 strollers, half more expensive than I would seriously consider–lives in a paper-thin glass house on the subject.”

    never said my comments were sound 🙂 but we are down to three strollers now!!!!!

    but did throw a rock at my own glass house, see http://cribchatter.com/?p=9572#comment-105632

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  57. why are you guys wasting so much money on baby/kid things. Give them a rock and stick to play with, buy a cheap stroller/car seat and be done with it. The brats will soon outgrow all of that crap you are buying them – and they will turn into spoiled brats!!!!

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  58. Ok this project mimics my deal exactly. I bought 2200 raw square feet in a timber frame loft and built it out by myself in 2004/2005. It was not hard for me to finance (back then) as I have a commercial bank relationship for my business. My banker just gave me a business loan to purchase and close on the raw space. I had a line of credit and cash to pay for my build out. I delayed some contractor payments until the end in order to keep my
    LOC down. I then sold my other property netting some decent equity (remember those days? With that I was able to pay off the LOC and part of the bank loan. I then refinanced the balance as a mortgage.

    PAGING WESTLOOPELO….. Where are you on this thread?

    The main downside to this project is that the cost to build this will be very high. The buyer’s ego, desire for cool stuff, and the incredibly cool choices for a loft will be difficult to overcome. Whoever buys it will need to keep it all in check to make it work financially.

    My raw cost was $75 psf. This is currently listed at $175. Sure it is a better neighborhood than the WL but there is no way it is more than double my 2005 pricing. Simply put this raw space should trade around $100-$125 tops. Anything over that is pure foolishness and driven by an ego purchase. No offense Clio but the listing is tailor made for a Lambo driving personality. The desire to have an asset that stands out from the crowd will be the motivator here.

    Any savvy buyer can find an existing 4000 sq. foot place that is habitable for under $1M. That is more easily financeable in the open market. Since there will already be HVAC, flooring, electrical, and plumbing if it is in good shape then the buyer can customize the crap out of it for another $150K. That buyer would still be ahead of the game at under $1.2 than if they chose to take on this raw space at $700K and put in $600K.

    If Westloopelo was around I suspect that he would agree that my $150 psf build out budget ($600K) is pretty accurate and not out of the question for this place. It is SEXY as hell and the challenge and possibilities will likely lure some sucker out of his checkbook. I still say that it is vastly overpriced.

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  59. “and they will turn into spoiled brats!!!!”

    One’s who expect to go to boarding school, perhaps?

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  60. “why are you guys wasting so much money on baby/kid things. Give them a rock and stick to play with, buy a cheap stroller/car seat and be done with it. The brats will soon outgrow all of that crap you are buying them – and they will turn into spoiled brats!!!!”

    You love this clio, i almost pulled a DZ and bought a ipad for the wee one. wife walked in and was almost about to stab me for it. her looked even scared the shyte out of the apple kid about to ring me up.

    and one thing about the kid stuff it is actually more for the parents than the kid. (i.e its our version of the Lambo)

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  61. jp3…. spot on.
    Let me ask you this, based on economic/market conditions today do you think you could do your project today?

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  62. issues with this building that are obviously excluded from the posting, but that lead this property to being undesirable are plentiful.

    -High assessments/taxes for no amenities.
    -“comp” unit on third floor has been on market for a long time and was previously listed at 2.4 mil. I don’t think it will sell for anything close to that
    -3rd floor unit easily has close to 1 million in construction costs, so to get the fourth floor to look like that, you’re talking 1.7 mil
    -major issues with association. Special assessments, empty units, empty retail space on bottom floor
    -issues with builder, who continues to own space in building, but is not paying assessment
    -shared outdoor deck space is not accessible by elevator

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  63. “i almost pulled a DZ and bought a ipad for the wee one”

    Wait until they put a webcam in it. That’s the main thing missing. Kid was freaking me out the other day by how much he was zipping around on the ipod. I had a faint vision of the day when my kid will be annoyed by how tech ignorant I am.

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  64. ““i almost pulled a DZ and bought a ipad for the wee one””

    PAD? Seriously? Does he have *giant* hands for his age?

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  65. “PAD? Seriously? Does he have *giant*
    hands for his age?”

    Less hand eye coordination requires bigger buttons. And who doesn’t want a bigger screen. I also suspect purchase would have been as much for groove as lil groove.

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  66. “Less hand eye coordination requires bigger buttons. And who doesn’t want a bigger screen. I also suspect purchase would have been as much for groove as lil groove.”

    2 pads, 2 phones, 2 pods, none for the kids, tho they do play with them.

    And, were it for Groove, instead of lil Groove, it would have wound up costing ~3x thru “compensatory” purchases–I’m guessing Groove’s been preaching (some) austerity in the time of house hunting.

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  67. “Any savvy buyer can find an existing 4000 sq. foot place that is habitable for under $1M”

    really? in this location? with 14 foot ceilings throughout? on one floor? with direct elevator access? I say NO WAY!!!! Even a crappy tear down single family house in a slightly worse area is smaller, lower ceilings and way more expensive. 4000 square foot condos are VERY difficult to come by – I haven’t seen one in an area like this for less than 1.5 – 2million.

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  68. “and one thing about the kid stuff it is actually more for the parents than the kid. (i.e its our version of the Lambo)”

    but be careful – it’s a slippery slope. Restrain yourself and you will thank me later!!

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  69. OMG ONE OF CHICAGO’S MOST EXPENSIVE HOMES JUST SOLD!!!

    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/4317-N-Monticello-Ave-60618/home/13484540

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  70. HD – awesome!

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  71. Now you might think that 7 and a half million dollars is a lot for a frame house in Old Irving, but you guys have no idea how many rich people are out there in Chicago and you’ll be sorry when you try to rent it for $800 instead and then the owner starts raising the rent like crazy and Ben Bernanke can’t help but start hyperinflation just around the corner and congratulations to the buyer on a great purchase that will make them very very happy.

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  72. roma, I couldn’t have said it better!!

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  73. Clio – you got me on 4000 square feet but if we drop to 3600 here are two easy examples of my point. They might not have direct elevator access but I think that is a weird feature and not that cool.

    First up to prove that the “price is wrong” we find an interesting address. Thats right 152 West Huron floor 6 actually SOLD last spring for $895K. It was sold in as-is condition which typically means something was up. In the photos it appears to be in good condition. Now it was not even close on the sexy meter as the modern loft but this was sold finished at less than $250 per square feet in the exact same building. Someone could have bought that place, put $300K into awesome ego driven finishes, and still be below the price of the raw space unit.

    MLS #07466282

    I’d also compare 420 W. Ontario #405. This is another one story loft with high ceilings and 3600 square feet. There was no private elevator and it is in a slightly less desirable location but currently listed at $1.230 with two spots In todays market I would bet that you could pick this up for around $1 million. That means that you will still have another 100K to upgrade.

    MLS # 07577700

    Comps at this range are indeed tough. We can find similarities and differences in each property. I still believe that the raw price is way overpriced.

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  74. jp3,

    I am sorry but I have to disagree with the 420 W ontario comp. That unit is laid out in a weird way, is not as wide as this unit and doesn’t have the type of symmetric windows that this place has. Also, I would rather be in the 152 W. Huron location. I understand your point, but, as someone who scours the MLS looking for unique interesting places that I could live in – the listing featured is one of the only ones that I think fits all of my criteria. Now, if someone would only by my current in-town……

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  75. jp3 – also, I would like to have only one bedroom, a study, and an exercise room and leave the rest completely open. To buy a place that is already finished, demo it and re-do it would be really expensive. I would rather start with raw, cheap space.

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  76. jp3…. spot on.
    Let me ask you this, based on economic/market conditions today do you think you could do your project today

    Valasko – Tough call. Id say yes and no. The decision to do that project was not 100% market based. My job and business does not offer me any chance to use my creative side. It was an excellent experience and a fun project that has brought me so much happiness. It is exactly why Clio and I are attracted to this space. The ability to make it really unique is a powerful draw.

    I would do it again for myself under the right circumstances. In fact as my wife and I look at homes in Park Ridge we are always bored by the blah of properties. We have one great realtor out there keeps looking for unique multi use properties. he knows that we want to do something really creative. Would that blow up in my face if I built it and had to sell in the short term. Heck yes!

    It we stayed on budget and were able to stay for a decade it would not only work but also be a really awesome place to raise a family. We really enjoy entertaining our friends in our current happy and fun space. I’d build out the new place so cool that every kid (and parent) in the hood would want to come over and play.

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  77. “I would rather start with raw, cheap space”

    Clio- I think that we are cut from the same cloth. I too am a huge fan of open clean spaces. When they are done correctly they are awesome. The good news is that based on the comp from the same building I’d say that the seller has to come back to reality and understand that this sale puts his value at $100 per square feet max.

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  78. I agree the raw space is better. I don’t think the raw space’s location is all that. Its not got much of a view and that section of RN is loud and far from green space. I actually prefer the old Montgomery Ward loft buildings on Larrabee and Kingsbury b/c they are on the River and next to Erie park (playground, green space, movies, and new dog park). However, the power to customize the raw space is a huge draw. Also, the 420 Ontario unit is right above Reza’s. Reza’s is loud and there is a faint food smell in the lofts above it. No way could you put 100K in it and get anywhere as nice as what the raw space could be. There are some cheap finishings (cabinets) in Ontario.

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  79. jp3 – good luck with your search. you are absolutely right about the joy and pleasure of creating your own space. Until I bought my in-town, every other property I have bought needed a total gut rehab/redesign. This was the fun part of real estate – not the financial/money part. I enjoyed every part of it (in retrospect). I really hope you find what you are looking for in Park Ridge. There are a lot of houses there and I’m sure that if you wait for the right place, it will “speak to you”.

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  80. “2 pads, 2 phones, 2 pods, none for the kids, tho they do play with them.
    And, were it for Groove, instead of lil Groove, it would have wound up costing ~3x thru “compensatory” purchases–I’m guessing Groove’s been preaching (some) austerity in the time of house hunting.”

    anon, yes i know little buddies hands wouldnt have a good handle on the pad. but i dont want to know what his happening to his eyes with my phone.
    wife doesnt know but when we lil groove and i are out by ourselves and he wants to pull a meltdown when we are in a hurry or grabbing a nice sit down lunch or breakfast i have videos ready to roll on the phone.

    i do hate myself inside for doing it, but his smile and me avoiding a quick burst into kiddie world war 3 soothes that hate inside.

    i do feel its kind of ok as wife limits his TV watching to sesame street and alternates days with thomas train and cat and the hat. i think thats like 1:30 a day, weekend is actually less if you dont count the TV being on all sunday for football. i think he can cares less about football but little guy loves that geico commercial with the little piggie 🙂

    BTW, just got back from dinner in the south loop my first one on a weekday since a long danm time. and OH MY is it dead in the sloop after 8pm during the week.

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  81. “wife doesnt know”

    Uh, she does now, no?

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  82. “Uh, she does now, no?”

    she gave up reading cribchatter a while back and started again then when the clio showed up and the westloopelo peeing match began she split.

    she also doesnt know i give him french fries once a week and give him ice cream once sometimes twice a week 🙂

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  83. “2 pads, 2 phones, 2 pods, none for the kids, tho they do play with them.”

    Question is do the kids play with them more than you and wife?

    “she also doesnt know i give him french fries once a week and give him ice cream once sometimes twice a week”

    Don’t forget hot dogs. My kid loves redhot ranch, and taking the bus to redhot ranch.

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  84. “Question is do the kids play with them more than you and wife?”

    Not even close. Kids barely get them.

    ““she also doesnt know i give him french fries once a week and give him ice cream once sometimes twice a week”

    Don’t forget hot dogs. My kid loves redhot ranch, and taking the bus to redhot ranch.”

    Can’t make the kids eat perfectly unless you do too and that would suck, so we don’t really sweat it too much except limiting the empty calories.

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  85. Hi,

    This is Sam Shaffer the listing agent for 152 W. Huron Unit 4. I wanted to thank everyone for posting a comment. I also wanted to invite anyone and everyone to view this space on Sunday, November 21st from 12-1:30pm. If you can’t swing by the open house, you can contact me at 773-297-9792 to schedule a private showing.

    Regards,

    Sam

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  86. “Can’t make the kids eat perfectly unless you do too and that would suck, so we don’t really sweat it too much except limiting the empty calories”

    we try to have him eat good and homemade food as much as we can. Veggies are still a fight. and once when he was sick i felt bad for the little guy and gave in. he wanted ketchup, just ketchup, so i squirted a bunch into a bowl and gave him a spoon.
    another time when he was teething all he wanted was grapes. it was just me for the weekend wife was helping a friend who just gave birth. so we ate only grapes for the whole weekend.

    and now the kid is addicted to eggo’s! i guess try your best and do what anon says lead by example and dont sweat the rest too much.

    BTW any trick with veggies? i let him dip in ketchup by now he is past that stage.

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  87. Veggies may taste bitter to him, which is probably why he was dipping in ketchup. Find the ones he can palate without dipping and be patient. He’ll probably start eating them on his own as he gets older.

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  88. What worked for my brother was frozen peas… might want to try that…. oh god now I’m involved in baby talk 101.

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  89. “BTW any trick with veggies? i let him dip in ketchup by now he is past that stage.”

    Dunno, just keep trying really. My son will all of a sudden start eating something he’s passed up 30 times. (He’ll also stop eating something he’s routinely eaten in the past.) A little oil and salt don’t hurt either.

    They’re weird little creatures at the moment, tremendously unformed yet with incredibly precise demands.

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  90. the whole purpose of this thread was to get valasko to the dark side. it worked!

    anonemoose, i will try that.
    its crazy as when he first started soild foods the kid would rock off too gerber jars of veggies at a sitting. we even tried to go back to the blending or jars, didnt work.
    wife came up with the idea of using the gerber veggies as a dip for his bread.

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  91. “yet with incredibly precise demands”

    truer words were never spoken!!!!! just try and mess with his mega blocks and add a size or color not in his “master plan” 🙂

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  92. “anonemoose, i will try that.”

    Yeah, frozen peas are always good. Petite peas are sweeter and more likely to pass the test. Mine are particular about which vegetables, but will eat one of several different kinds any given day.

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  93. Squash can be sweet too – it is somewhere between fruit and veggie.

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  94. “This is Sam Shaffer the listing agent for 152 W. Huron Unit 4. I wanted to thank everyone for posting a comment. I also wanted to invite anyone and everyone to view this space on Sunday, November 21st from 12-1:30pm. If you can’t swing by the open house, you can contact me at 773-297-9792 to schedule a private showing.”

    Thanks Sam. If anyone goes to the open house- please report in.

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