What’s Selling in Edison Park: A Brick Single Family Home at 6467 N. Oxford
There are several smaller bungalows and brick homes under contract in Edison Park right now that are priced below $400,000.
This 3 bedroom English style house that was built in 1939 at 6467 N. Oxford is one of them.
On the market since March 2009, it had been reduced by $50,000 before going under contract.
It is also listed $70,000 under the 2005 purchase price.
The house has hardwood floors, stainless steel appliances and a large deck overlooking the backyard. It also is within a few blocks of the Metra station.
Many buyers who are priced out of Park Ridge look in Edison Park which is right next door.
Is Edison Park now a deal compared to its more expensive suburban neighbors?
Michael Stangel at Keller Williams Realty Partners has the listing. See the pictures here.
6467 N. Oxford: 3 bedrooms, 1 bath, no square footage listed, 2 car garage
- Sold in July 2005 for $435,000
- Originally listed in March 2009 for $415,000
- Reduced several times
- Currently listed at $365,000
- Under contract
- Taxes of $4211
- Central Air
- Bedroom #1: 12×10 (main floor)
- Bedroom #2: 11×10 (main floor)
- Bedroom #3: 21×12 (second floor)
Bungalows just depress me. I don’t know why…
one bath in a SFH depresses me.
I don’t think that this is a Bungalow, but it does have that dark, compartmentalized feeling of a bungalow.
Depressing? Here’s some lithium to cheer you up because this home great news! This is a nice and tidy home in a quiet northwest side neighborhood. It’s great to finally witness housing prices return to earth. This is a turn key SFH on a 35′ wide lot in the $300’s. The market hasn’t seen prices like this since … at least the early 2000’s. Updated kitchen, SS appliances, 3 bedrooms. I’m quite pleased to see such a deal. Of course, the house is not perfect, there is only one bathroom and the basement isn’t finished, but, in the $300’s, this home is a positive step in the right direction!
Part of the bungalow/single bath appeal factor is generational and some is “class” based. Many individuals over 50 can remember apartment buildings with one shared bath per floor, which makes any private bath seem very appealing. There are also still many thousands of traditional Chicago bungalows/English Ts/etc that were built as 2 bed/1 bath/800 sq ft homes for middle class families in the 20s/30s/40s. While a good number of these have been upgraded (bath in the basement, back porch converted to bedroom) many have had only cosmetic upgrades and there is a market (albeit at a lower price point) for these residences.
“this home is a positive step in the right direction!”
good to see! cause the bubble priced out many in Edison park, we have many friends in edison park and almost all of them are upside down on thier homes but still can afford the monthly nut.
“There are also still many thousands of traditional Chicago bungalows/English Ts/etc that were built as 2 bed/1 bath/800 sq ft homes for middle class families in the 20s/30s/40s”
when you step outside yuppie/trendy area’s the one bathroom is a common thing. my place was a one bath two bedroom thing until i got a hold of it.
edison park is a great area for starting families a lot of cops tradesmen firemen in the area, of northwest highway are some good restaurants, you can take advantage of Park ridge ammenities.
given i dont like the area by olympia park its still a good place and a good buy for 365k
This house should be like 200k what are you all smokin!
For someone looking for a SFH under 400K the northwest sector is a great alternative. There is some decent stuff up there if you don’t mind the commute. It’s a nice compromise between the suburbs and the city.
sonies i usually agree with you but 200k come on thats insane.
200k/3 would mean $66k a year person could afford this house. Which is about what a middle class city worker type person would make.
$365k? Really? Damn there must be a lot of gubbermint people rollin in the dough to keep prices on a 3/1 in Minnesota that high.
I think a house like this will eventually sell for $325-340K next summer/spring. This price point could be attracting some first time buyers who have access to the $8,000 tax credit and potential FHA loan. Despite the 1 bathroom, it looks in good condition. What are the lot sizes in that area? 35′ x 125′?
“This house should be like 200k ”
Not in Edison Park. If this house was around Belmont/Central maybe, but Edison Park is the “upscale” area of northwest Chicago and does command a premium. 365K seems high, but 200K is too low.
PS – Still have to think long and hard about schools here……
“Still have to think long and hard about schools here”
only HS ebinger is a really good school. i know they closed edison gifted and turned back to a neighborhood school dont know if it will be good or not.
“$365k? Really?”
yep the area commands a premium; safe, good elem schools, suburban feel, very community oriented (never miss a block party here you will be shunned)
bubble pricing in this area was hillarious when we looked in 2007.
netD: “Many individuals over 50 can remember apartment buildings with one shared bath per floor”
Well, I “remember” their existance, too, but I don’t think many over-50s were living in SROs in their teens or 20s. And, even if they were, they realized that their living situation was one step above “homeless shelter”.
Tom: “I don’t think that this is a Bungalow, but it does have that dark, compartmentalized feeling of a bungalow.”
It is decidedly *not* a bungalow, as that means something specific about the exterior (at least when you are talking about a house in Chicago), but it does seem to have a pretty typical bungalow layout inside.
Groove: “given i dont like the area by olympia park ”
What, you get jumped outside a BK there, too?
“Currently listed at $365,000”
It’s been at $365k since late June. They dropped it by $25k in the first month from listing (15k in 12 days then 10k more 3 weeks later).
The “home price estimates” on Redfin are HI-larious–$341k, $529k, and $288k.
The 1st mtg (only one still on it) is for $284,900. 2d mtg of $106,500 was released 2 months after purchase (I would guess that was paid with proceeds of buyer’s prior house, but can’t confirm as there’s no Cook sale record in buyer’s name in 05).
If this is $365k, with 95% financing and a 5.5% fixed-rate, to approx. match the payment in a future with 7.5% fixed-rates and 95% financing, it would have to be priced at $289k–a price that would likely make HD pretty happy–which sort of shows the interest rate risk on current real estate prices.
It commands almost a 75% premium? no.
Anontfo- 289k is even better.
Sonies- you really should travel outside of downtown, at least once a year.
I really wish that 2 bedroom/4.5 bath from yesterday would give this place a bath or at least a half bath…
Edison Park. A premium. Really? To me this is like Skokie or Niles. I don’t know exactly where it is and could care less. Northwest side to me is Wicker/Bucktown/Logan. This is WAYNorthWAYWest side. Yuck.
I’m glad people say YUCK to the nw side, we don’t want you living here anyway. 😉
Edison park is a nice compromise between the city/suburbs, yet still has a decidedly city feel. There is a difference between Park Ridge and EP. 365k is still somewhat expensive but given that these types of homes sold in the 400’s this is a positive step in the right direction.
“Sonies- you really should travel outside of downtown, at least once a year.”
I was in Wrigleyville yesterday, does that count?
city feel is nice and all, but why pay a premium for something you could get in Niles or Rosemont for half the price? Do you really enjoy paying taxes that much more to say you live in Chicago? And really, 365k for a one bathroom cottage? That’s rediculous to me in lakeview let alone edison park, or O’Hare or wherever the hell this place is.
The fact that you think niles and edison park are similar is like me saying RN is like the south loop just because they’re close in proximity. They are in fact much different. Different people, different homes, different ethnic backgrounds, different stores, restaurants.
“why pay a premium for something you could get in Niles or Rosemont for half the price? Do you really enjoy paying taxes that much more to say you live in Chicago? And really, 365k for a one bathroom cottage?”
1. Why do you think you could buy something like this for $180k in Niles/Skokie/Rosemont?
2. Why do you think city taxes are higher than taxes in Niles/Skokie? (nb: they are lower in Rosemont).
3. Yeah, really, $365k (or, most likely, a bit less) for a one bath cottage. But that’s a step in the unwinding from $435k for a one bath cottage. This should settle in at about the Chicago median for a SFH.
“Jon,bro, wow, wouldnt expect you to be closed minded. but skokie and eewwww niles are TOTALY differnet than EP.”
I really didn’t know where Edison Park was and so I kept zooming on the map — the first think I could even recognize were Niles and Skokie. Hence, the comment. I work downtown so it would SUCK to live in Edison Park – disagree if you want, but it would.
“I work downtown so it would SUCK to live in Edison Park”
Yes it would.
“why should i leave when i have everything i need in walking distance’.
pretty much
“I work downtown so it would SUCK to live in Edison Park”
the metra is right there, you can get downtown it may be 10 min longer than the damen blue line your used to.
24 minutes from EP to Ogilve station. Seriously you guys are so ridiculous, not exactly convincing me of your extraordinary intellectual prowess.
“I work downtown so it would SUCK to live in Edison Park”Yes it would
“the metra is right there, you can get downtown it may be 10 min longer than the damen blue line your used to.”
And Metra actually runs on schedule, so less standing around waiting. Not that I wouldn’t just move to Glen Ellyn or Elmhurst, if I were considering Edison Park.
NW side of Chicago vs. DuPage county? Very very different. Apples to oranges. We were getting along so well anon(tfo) 🙁
“Not that I wouldn’t just move to Glen Ellyn or Elmhurst, if I were considering Edison Park. “
“NW side of Chicago vs. DuPage county? Very very different. Apples to oranges”
Absolutely, but if I were moving to where I’d be taking Metra, I’d take that opportunity to run away from Cook County corrupt-ernment, too.
I live off the metra at irivng park, I prefer taking the clean, timely and fresh smelling Metra to the urine soaked late CTA. And the el costs only 10 cents more. That’s right, 10 cents more. As of 2010 it will be 65 cents cheaper to take the metra from downtown to irving park than the CTA.
I prefer walking or taking the non urine soaked 11 bus to work. Trains blow, I was on the redline last night and one car smelled of the essence de flooded basement, and another smelled like someone flooded the car with cat pee. At least the brown line doesn’t stink 95% of the time.
Drive.
Oh how I hate sitting in traffic more than I hate waiting on the cold frigid platform for the el.
“Jon on October 13th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Drive.
“
Yeah, the brown line is very nice. I get sad when I have to ride on other lines though. =(
Another point for all you Metra people, it really does matter where your office is in the loop and how far you then have to walk from the train station to get to work. If you work close to your Metra station, great. But with the CTA I can get to most any office easily from the Brown line. It is starting to get cold out!
Does metra still have the “BAR car”? that right there would have me looking for homes on the metra line instead of the brown line. (if i needed to commute by public).
anon,
“Glen Ellyn or Elmhurst” now doing that just means you have given up on life.
you guys whine all you want about the EL and urine, you dont know true suckiness until you live and work in area’s where you have to take THE BUS as a commute.
as a teenager doing graffiti the bus was awesome, as an adult it sucks huge donkey…….the f….ckin CTA Buses are the worst.
““Glen Ellyn or Elmhurst” now doing that just means you have given up on life.”
I feel the same way about living in the flight path in Edison Park. If I’m going to the bungalow-belt/city-employee-suburb, I may as well go all in and stop paying the corruption tax.
I mean, one of the good things mentioned (by you, Groovester!) for Edison Park is the proximity to Park Ridge’s amenities. When you live in a part of the city where the suburbs’ amenities are a perq, why would you choose to deal with CPS, and corrupt Aldermen, and c.? Unless you can’t afford the ‘burb you want to be in.
hd, don’t you have somebody you can bill or expense a cab to if you are at the office after 7?
“as an adult it sucks huge donkey…….the f….ckin CTA Buses are the worst.”
Coincidentally they only suck on the ones that pass through the south and west sides (and uptown)… The north side only buses/trains are 10x as clean…. wierd eh?
“When you live in a part of the city where the suburbs’ amenities are a perq……Unless you can’t afford the ‘burb you want to be in”
valid point!
one thing i need to state about Edison park that i forgot, this is a thing lost in burbs and other parts of the city, is this area isa hard working middle class with family values and strong community vibes. A great place to raise kids and schools (except HS) are actually good (not great). if your middle class with your 2.5 kids and a dog its a good hood to be and still enjoy the city.
as for the groove family, its not for us, too many white people in one place scares me.
“The north side only buses are 10x as clean…. wierd eh”
which ones i dont ever remeber any northside or nw side buses bieng good. and i used to take a lawernce bus that only ran from jeffpark to cumberland ave to a girl i dated in HS.
The 156 is pretty nice. Granted that bus probably has the highest per capita income of any bus line in the city (runs the east side of LP, down LaSalle, and then into the loop). 22 and 36 aren’t bad either.
156, 22, 11, the 134,135 all nice buses the 36 sucks and is nasty what are you talking about!
ok 156 is sweet,
when has the clark 22 or 11 ever been fun to take?
now kp really the broadway bus? really?
I’ve only taken the 22 and 36 on occasion so I’ll give on those.
Regular for me is the 156, the demographics on there are hilarious in the morning (in a good, is this really a public transit bus… which of course you realize it is when everyone is jam packed).
Its not about being ‘fun to take’ its about not wading around in garbage (like sunflower seeds, potatochip bags, empty soda cans) and an overbearing piss smell.
“Its not about being ‘fun to take’ its about not wading around in garbage (like sunflower seeds, potatochip bags, empty soda cans)”
nothing better than a flaming hot bag stuck to your brand new shoes.
its been a while since i have hopped on a bus funny to see nothings changed.
btw pulaski bus is my vote for worst. most north south buses are the pits
No there is no longer a bar car on the Metra, sorry Groovester. Many a coworker came in teary eyed when they discontinued that amenity.
Nice neighborhood and I’m surprised nobody mentioned the proximity to O’Hare. Its both a positive and negative. What really kills this listing for the price they are asking is one bath though and the competition with neighboring burbs.
And as others have noted is having a Chicago address really worth having to deal with CPS and all of the associated issues we have in the city when you can live next door in Park Ridge for a similar price.
Sure youngin’ 20-somethings loooove the Chicago proper addy as they can name drop that to their friends that they live in the city now and they’re no longer a yokel suburbanite from Arlington Heights or an Iowa farmboy/girl but are now a big CIITAYYY baller.
But when kids come along and its family formation time methinks practical considerations would outweigh this perceived status of having a Chicago address. Maybe they can get a PO box in Edison Park if they want to name drop at their highschool reunion?
Epic fail on this property: 1) quasi-suburban feel to hood, 2) city prices, schools and taxes and 3) one lowly bath.
Also I am convinced that this buyer was a knifecatcher who probably bought based on two, maybe 3 things: 1) its among the cheaper SFHs for sale in this hood presently and 2) the 2005 buyer paid 435k in 2005 (we can imagine the financing used on the 2005 transaction until someone wants to fill us in) and 3) 8k tax credit–woohoo!
This will be a 250k place or less by 2014.
“No there is no longer a bar car on the Metra, sorry Groovester. Many a coworker came in teary eyed when they discontinued that amenity”
i heard a rumor last year about it stopping. they had crazy mark up prices i am surprised they stopped it.
I remember the bar car as a kid, walking through it and almost choking on the cigarette smoke. My recollection of it is hazy, like some scene out of the Dick Van Dyke show. I also remember seeing a group of men playing cribbage on the Metra when I was younger, you don’t see that anymore either.
The Metra from Edison Park also stops at Elston and Armitage for access to the northside, but it’s hard to land a taxi there, isn’t it? PS Why do they call that stop “Clybourn” when it’s on Elston?
“we can imagine the financing used on the 2005 transaction until someone wants to fill us in”
Or you can just read the comments upthread–already posted, dude.
Ahh thanks..not toxic as I’d expect so I’d prefer to ignore it and still assume it was toxic.
Actually a cute house, with nicely shaped rooms and nice vintage details.
But it’s a place for two people at the most, with no more than one kid, in a dull, out-of-the-way neighborhood.
This ought to be a house for a family with a teacher’s or police officer’s income, but these people won’t qualify at this price, unless there are two earners making at least $50,000 a year in the household, figuring on 20% down. If you figure 3.5% down, you’re left with a huge mortgage that would be a little overwhelming for such a couple, especially if they have car payments and CC debt.
But that won’t keep the FHA from writing them anyway, I’m sure. The quality of the new generation of FHA loans is very low and producing a lot of delinquencies.
Seriously people, Edison Park is way better place than you guys are making it out to be. Yes, it’s more of a family place, and there are plenty of younger city kids around, but it’s better than probably 75% of other city neighborhoods. The strip at Edison Park has a handful of places to eat and dine and drink, and shop, and Edison Park streetfest or whatever it’s called is always hopping in August or September. Moretti’s is a nice place to sit outdoors and relax or watch a game. Zia is an excellent italian restaurant. There are no chains, it’s not like a suburb, there are plenty of younger chicago people who are actually from chicago as opposed to big ten transplants. No it’s not wrigleyville but it’s a nice place to live. Metra, highways, suburban amenties just a short drive away yet it still has a city feel with lots of flats and apartment buildings. i’d live in edison park anyday over albany park, or portage park, belmont-craigin or almost anywhere else on the northwest side, and you don’t have quite the gang issue and ruckus like you do elsewhere. I get out to edison park a few times a year, at least, b/c it’s centrally located between the northside and some northwest suburbs. I’m not trying to convince anyone to move into the ‘hood it’s been knocked on this board as “in a dull, out-of-the-way neighborhood” and “quasi-suburban feel to hood,” but why pay a premium for something you could get in Niles or Rosemont for half the price” … seriously, next summer check out the neighborhood (the winter can take the life out of even the best areas in chicago)…
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=restaurant,&sll=42.002813,-87.818313&sspn=0.006474,0.013797&ie=UTF8&radius=0.35&rq=1&ev=zo&hq=restaurant,&hnear=&ll=42.003132,-87.815952&spn=0.006474,0.013797&t=h&z=16
After reading all of the comments I wanted to give some perspective from a real EP resident. I grew up and lived there until 1990. My mother still owns the family home on Ottawa. Here is my perspective on that neighborhood.
EP is one of the safest areas of the city to raise a family. Most people share very consetrvative values. At last check I think that it is the only are in the city with a Republican (SHOCK) alderman Brian Dourghtey (sp)?
I attended private schools after 4th grade. My parents both had worked in the CPS system one point in their carreers and pulled us out when busing became the rage. I currently live in the west loop so it is imposssible for me to judge the current school system.
How did this bubble happen? Think back 10 years ago. Many yuppies grew up got married and had a baby. This scared them and they decided that they needed to sell thier Bucktown
/Lakeview/Wrigleyville condo that had swelled in value. They looked at Park RIdge but found that they were a little out of that price range and wanted to still feel cool by living with a city address.
Edison Park was presented by their realtor as an option for a safe alternative. At that time every fourth or fifth house on my moms block was a cop.
With all that fresh cash in thier fists from getting thier condo under contract in one day with multiple offers to choose from they had plenty of Benjimans to qualify for thier morgtage in EP. They bought and bought and bought. Housing is slow to turn over. Many people hang onto thier houses until the end. Higher demand, moderate supply, and a grwoing image pushed it into overdrive. This made every homeowner and listing agent push the envelope. The combiantion made the area swell past it’s true value.
Over the last decade my moms block has changed from cops/firemen (required to live in the city) to working white collar professionals. Several of her neighbors even (shocker) commute downtown. Overall it is still a great place to live with decent neighbors, clean streets, excellent parking, mature trees, and solid city services.
The houses vary in style and color but most are solid brick structures. While I would not refer to them as “built like a fortress” like that home in Uptown I would say that most of the structures can easily take an addition. Turning the 3 bed one bath into a 3/2 or 3/2.5 with a new master bedroom and family room is uusally not prohibitave. Basements (her block) never leak leaving additional space to improve.
EP is still a bargain compared to the Sauganash area which appears to be much more ritzy and has bigger lots. EP is not for everyone. I just had my first child and still want to live in the west loop. If I flee for the burbs I think that my money would land in Park Ridge or Glenview.
HD,
“Zia is an excellent italian restaurant.”
haahahaha that’s where i take my wife for her birthday every year. she refuses to go any where else for her birthday 🙂
JP3,
True about the white collar pro’s coming into that area over the last 15 years. The three good friends that live in that area ALL COPS and one is a CPS teacher. I cant stand park ridge residents and can never figure out why some one would move there glenview i get not park ridge
Yes, this is a fine, safe, high-quality family neighborhood that our cities used to have many of and that you didn’t need a “professional” income to live in.
Safety and livability used to be things that any lower-middle-income urban dweller could take for granted. I grew up in such a neighborhood in another city, and we EXPECTED safety and livability. We expected our neighborhood to be clean and safe and for our children to have safety on the streets and decent schools. Such things were not considered to be privileges for upper-income folk only.
Well, my old nabe was destroyed long ago, along with thousands like it across the country. May Edison Park, Lincoln Square and other like them remain good places for people who do the jobs we all need to have done but that don’t pay “professional” salaries.
Groove, I get park ridge, I don’t get glenview. Glenview has got that whole trade up ponzi scheme thing going on, where you buy an entry level house in one neighborhood, sell for appreciation, then buy a bigger house in a fancier subdivision a few blocks away, lather, rinse, repeat. And the Glen with it’s Toll bros homes is soulless. Park ridge at least has large homes, leafy streets, wealthier residents, and zero tolerance for riff-raff. The older I get the less riff-raff I can put up with and the 50 ain’t taking none of that in Park Ridge. “stay the hell out of park ridge lebowski!”
“And the Glen with it’s Toll bros homes is soulless”
oh gosh then glen looks like a fricken movie set with is fakeness. i hate the whole development on that air force base there. I guess i should say i get OLD glenview, and park ridge is beautiful tree lined streets, it just the people that inhabit the homes there irk me.
“We expected our neighborhood to be clean and safe and for our children to have safety on the streets and decent schools. Such things were not considered to be privileges for upper-income folk only”
very well written,
it is becoming more and more in chicago that only the upper-income hoods are the only “acceptable” areas to live in. its a sad site to see and over my getting close to 40 years of life in chicago i see less and less good hoods for middle to lower-middle class families to live in.
DanL QUESTION: “The Metra from Edison Park also stops at Elston and Armitage for access to the northside, but it’s hard to land a taxi there, isn’t it? PS Why do they call that stop “Clybourn” when it’s on Elston?”
ANSWER: It is called Clybourn because near by West Cortland Street was part of Clybourn before Clybourn was extended North.
Sorry that I started the Park Ridge/Glenview tangent. I’m interested in PR for the architectural diversity and mature landscaping. I grew up with O’Hare and currently live by the el so dealing with noise is not my hot button. Downside is that Glenview and PR can both can be a bit too arrogant.
There is a really intersting listing in PR on a little man made pond called 100 Shoreline Drive. I would love to see a thread on that listing but I have rarely seen crib chatter comment on anything outside the city limits. I was quite surprised to see an Edison Park thread this morning.
“There is a really intersting listing in PR on a little man made pond”
are you talking about mobster lake oops sorry i meant murphy lake?
Sabrina doenst do suburbs, she states i think “wouldnt be able to do the subrbs the justice it deserves” or something like that.
so only in chicago limits she posts, and i notice alot of mario greco listings too which is LP/Lakeview/Roscoe village
Right next to Murphy Lake I think its called Park Lake. Touhy and Dee Rd. A pretty cool house that might end up as a teardown. It could be a creative rehab project. I’d love to hear westloop’s opinion. I’d buy it myself but I can not figure out what being on a weird little pond in PR adds to the land value. Sorry for starting another tangent.
“Sorry for starting another tangent”
i think after about the first hour the listing is posted here it gets of topic 🙂
i dont know about park lake but can assume its about the same as murphy lake. Murphy lake is pretty sweet as its a non motor lake only mini sail boats, row boats, and the cheesy pedel boats. cant remember if there is a fishing rule, and in the winter they do ice skating things. its a neat swimming hole and from what i remember is private.
hope that helps?
i love water front private beach properties. thats why if grooves lotto number comes in we are buying that ginulious beach property in edgewater 🙂
why the hell would you spend that kind of money on a beach you can use 4 months out of the year
“why the hell would you spend that kind of money on a beach you can use 4 months out of the year”
i would be able to use it 7 months, i am hard core! my grill doesnt go into my garage until the christmas weekend, and comes back out in march. you will catch me sitting outside on the patio with a hot coco on a snowy day in December enjoying the snow flakes fall. Now January and feburary i refuse to leave the house.
at least with the place JP3 is talking about its small enough that it freezes thick and ice skating can commence.
I looked up the 100 shoreline property on redfin; i like the location, but I don’t like the house so much. Living there is definitely a lifestyle choice. Sure it’s the suburbs but you’re so close to the city; and you have your own lake you can, the kids can play in the lake with the other neighborhood kids during the summer, I’m sure the neighbors get together and grill out and everyone is fabulous. it’s even a short drive from cafe la cave. Wow, I’d live there for my mil if I were looking to buy a house in 10 years or so. With the great schools, a lake in the ‘burbs, wow, it makes me think, “where did I go wrong in life.” A law degree, good grades, a stable decent job don’t mean nothing if you want to live on a lake in park ridge. LIving in my parents’ basement isn’t all bad, at least I get free HBO.
“it’s even a short drive from cafe la cave”
Why is this so special? I’ve been, and I just don’t get it. Will someone please to explain?
PS–HD, I’m not saying *you* think its special b/c of your note, just that I know some people who do, and I.dont.understand.
Anon(tfo), the steak diane, the steak diane.
you guys are like the fifth person this year to mention “cafe la cave”. is this a place that should be on my radar? dont want to waste a trip out that way.
“is this a place that should be on my radar?”
My opinion is pretty clearly, “ehn”. I wouldn’t make the trip, but if you had a reason to meet in those parts, why not?
I will hit this place up next time i go to jc penny (which is once or twice a year)
Grove: Do you drive a caddy? Do you have a mistress? Do you have connections to the good fellas who run Rosemont? Do you enjoy 50$ steak diane? If you answered no to anyone of those questions, cafe la cave is not for you.
“Do you enjoy 50$ steak diane?”
Had to check that–Menu sez $27.00.
LOL, that reminds me of Gino & Giorgetti’s when I went in there one time
“Grove: Do you drive a caddy? Do you have a mistress? Do you have connections to the good fellas who run Rosemont? Do you enjoy 50$ steak diane? If you answered no to anyone of those questions, cafe la cave is not for you.”
haahhahaaha funny cause one of the five people who mentioned the cave place, well He drives an STS, is half italian, a lawyer, and was doin his sectrtary.
now you said STEAK, if the steak is that good i will make a special trip!
Did anyone mention the air traffic overhead in this neighborhood? With O’Hare’s outer-runways less than 2 1/2 miles away, it’s gotta be all low-flying planes, all the time. No thanks.
Yeah, $27 not $50 but with sides and stuff and drinks and wine and deserts this place is only slightly less expensive than Mortons but nowhere near as good.
Grove? Do I know you?
“haahhahaaha funny cause one of the five people who mentioned the cave place, well He drives an STS, is half italian, a lawyer, and was doin his sectrtary.”
“Did anyone mention the air traffic overhead in this neighborhood? With O’Hare’s outer-runways less than 2 1/2 miles away, it’s gotta be all low-flying planes, all the time. No thanks”
good question, when i am in this area in the day mostly weekends i dont notice the plane traffic, but at night in summer and windows open who knows only someone who live there now could tell us?
i thought the landing route was down lawrence ave?
“Grove? Do I know you?”
you cant be the same guy cause you live in OIP,
the guy i know is dead on for almost every sterotype imagined, but you may know him, his firm (or what ever your lawyers call it) is off of lake st i think.
The routes changed recently with the new runway. Google earth can help you line it up but one route is over Glenview Niles and park ridge. Another route comes in over the Kennedy. The new East West runway comes down Devon ave.
Yes! The planes can be noisy, low, and frequent.
” thought the landing route was down lawrence ave?”
That’s the south one. The north one is, obviously, further north.
There are noise maps. This one:
http://www.oharenoise.org/images/Maps/2013OMP_contour-Full.jpg
shows what the area of 65+ db noise levels (60 is talking; 70 is a vacuum cleaner; it’s a geometric scale) will be after all the new runways are completed.
cool map. thanks for sharing.
““Grove? Do I know you?”
you cant be the same guy cause you live in OIP,
the guy i know is dead on for almost every sterotype imagined, but you may know him, his firm (or what ever your lawyers call it) is off of lake st i think.”
dude i am very curious, i really wonder if we sat across from each other at the same table at a bar or restaurant.
that would be some small world shyt.
There are three E-W runways open now, since the spring, and in nice weather they often are landing on all three at once in formation. I live downtown and look out to the north–at the evening rush hour, 5-6:30, they really get rocking.
The glide path streets are appox. Lawrence, Bryn Mawr, and Pratt. If you live east of the airport they are mostly gliding over you, which is a lot quieter. I kinda like the planes.
HD you are killing me here i need to know if your one of the cigar smoking attorney’s i know.
“l He drives an STS, is half italian, a lawyer, and was doin his sectrtary.””
“wow, it makes me think, “where did I go wrong in life.” A law degree, good grades, a stable decent job don’t mean nothing if you want to live on a lake in park ridge.”
You were born in the wrong year. You missed the asset bubble that others enjoyed. I’d bet most of those people couldn’t afford their $1MM homes on their incomes either, they just got lucky by being in the right location. Similar deal with those who bought in LA in ’92 or in Manhattan in the 80s.
You can still live near a lake with a nice house in a nice neighborhood for far less than a million. Unfortunately not in Chicagoland.
Here in Chicagoland currently ugly ass suburban tract homes built in the 70s and early 80s in suburbs that look like they weren’t maintained well are listed for 400-500k, all thanks to the bubble. Real Chicagoland Homes of Genius and our government is hell bent on not letting the market correct, komrade.
IF the FHA downpayment requirement is raised to even 10% this would wonders for accelerating the correction. In at most in three years when the FHA needs a massive taxpayer bailout suggestions like this might be taken seriously. But right now the bureaucrats in DC don’t care about inevitable bailouts in the future: thats too many election cycles in the future to worry about.
the comment is hilarious groove, we’ve probably have very few degrees between us all.
Groove, I doubt we know each other, but the STS and cheating cigar smoking stereotype is so true for the generations of lawyers ahead of me. My generation isn’t in to that so much.
“Groove, I doubt we know each other,”
thank you for clearing that up, the wife had to stop me from dialing all our lawyer friends/family/contacts last night to see if one of them was you. i was hell bent on finding out yesterday 🙂
“but the STS and cheating cigar smoking stereotype is so true for the generations of lawyers ahead of me”
i see that style in the friends our age that are attorney’s. maybe its to kiss up to the partners a be one of them or something.
question, is it still a lawyer code that you have to get a hunting dog and go duck hunting? (never understood that strange attorney fad) or when an laywer hits 45 he is required to buy a Harley?
or is the new thing now the suburban lance armstong weekend bike trek trip fad. MY GOSH THE SPANDEX, THE SPANDEX!
“the comment is hilarious groove, we’ve probably have very few degrees between us all.”
i think becuse of CC our degrees of sep are even closer.
BTW; I have many more lawyer stereotypes in my bag 🙂
The hunting dog and duck hunting is news to me. The cigar smoking cady driving cheating heart lawyer is all too familiar to me. But that’s a real old school mentality and unless you’ve got connections and are somebody’s somebody i.e. politics, unions, police, fire dept, connected families, you’ll find that old school mentality is fading away.
Today’s corporate and individual clients have very little tolerance for the misogynistic racist boyz club that world tends to be. Sure there are some clients here and there outside of pols, unions and connected folk who are OK with the Sopranos type mentality, but pull that stuff with a bank or insurance co. and they’ll fire you in an instant. The only place that’s still blatently prevelant is local politics, remember those town board members in Lyons in that police car who were caught mouthing off? That’s basically most of the aldermen, the county board, and even blago’s wife with her F bomb tirade thought she was carmella soprano. I’m sure Blago’s secret tapes are treasure trove of embarrassing conversations and tony soprano like conversations.
to me, the one common trait I’ve seen though is the 45 year old partner with 3 kids and a stay at home mom with a sweet house/compound in the ‘burbs. Or the 35 year old female lawyer who drops out of the workforce to have kids and be a stay at home mom. Other than that, there are 70,000 lawyers in the northern half of the state and the only thing we share in common is anal retentiveness.
“Other than that, there are 70,000 lawyers in the northern half of the state and the only thing we share in common is anal retentiveness”
i guess they attorney’s i know or have met are of the two sterotypical camps the itallian stereotype lawyer and the Jewish Stereotype lawyer. if you know Enrico Mirabelli (i guess he is the most know of the lawyers i know at functions/get together) then you can get a vision of the network of lawyers i have been around.
I’m only un po’ Italiano nor am i jewish. i’m not irish or catholic either but there seems to be plenty of them in my legal world. Like I said the traditional stereotypes are fading but i’m sure they’ll be replaced. the insurance defense / big firm law and big 10 graduate prepster living in LP/LV stereotype is huge right now. Gotta run.
“even blago’s wife with her F bomb tirade thought she was carmella soprano. ”
The difference is Tony Soprano never did time because he knew the value of keeping conversations face to face if he was engaged in a criminal enterprise. Blago not understanding this is going to do some time. Patty is going to wish she was Carmela Soprano in about a year.
“Patty is going to wish she was Carmela Soprano in about a year”
oddly never watched a minute of the soprano’s so i dont get any of these references.
“Tony Soprano: What’s it take ta get some f**kin’ smoked turkey in this house, huh?
Carmela Soprano: What?
Tony Soprano: I bust my ass all day long, when I come home I want a little smoked turkey. Is that too f**kin’ much to ask?!
Carmela Soprano: What the f**k is your problem?!
Tony Soprano: Everything but f**kin’ turkey in here! “
Closed at $359,000 on 10/29/09.
If the buyer put 20% down, then it’s a $287,200 mortgage at 5% which is $1540 a month P+I plus $350 a month taxes. Total is $1,890 a month…which is still a tad but high in my humble opinion but so so so much more reasonable than where things were in 2006. $1,890 per month is a monthly payment my household could comfortably pay for a SFH in a great city neighborhood without breaking the bank. I can’t wait for the deals to get even sweeter! And we all know they will!!
And I know a lot of this thread was spent bashing Edison Park, but I tell you, after going up there for the Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving Day, I’m a convert. The place is great, there’s a great sense of community, Gov. Quinn chose to spend Thanksgiving morning there as opposed to any of the T-day trots scattered over the state, and a couple of drinks at the bars afterward was fun too. It’s a beautiful neighborhood with a lot of nice homes and condos, and with the Metra the commute is shorter than the blue line in Old Irving Park. Now if I could figure out the school situation….
$359K holy crap.
It must have been a short sale or something.
Whoops, wrong thead… I was thinking that was 6902 N. Owen
$359K is a good price for that house. The neighborhood hasn’t tanked that bad.