A “Completely Renovated” 3-Bedroom in the Gold Coast: 100 E. Bellevue Place
This 3-bedroom in Bellevue Place at 100 E. Bellevue Place came on the market in November 2020.
Built in either 1969 (or 1971- as I’ve seen both listed), Bellevue Place has 181 units and attached heated garage parking that is leased.
It’s a full amenity building with a doorman, an exercise room, an outdoor pool on the roof along with a sundeck and grills.
This unit is a northeast corner unit and has 2 walls of windows which includes some lake views.
The listing says it has been “professionally designed” and “completely renovated.”
It has wide plank flooring throughout.
The kitchen has white cabinets, black matte finishes, a farmhouse sink, stainless steel appliances and a peninsula with waterfall quartz counter tops.
The listing says the electrical and plumbing have been updated.
The bathrooms have mosaic and marble floor tiling and rainfall shower systems.
It has central air, washer/dryer in the unit and leased heated garage parking is available.
This unit sold in June 2020 for $435,000, was renovated, and re-listed in November 2020 at $693,561.
It has been reduced to $664,900.
What will get this unit sold?
Todd Stephens at Winnetka Realty has the listing. See the pictures here.
Unit #5A: 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, 1800 square feet
- Sold in July 1998 for $355,000
- Sold in August 2001 for $539,000
- Sold in Mary 2006 for $544,000
- Sold in June 2020 for $435,000
- Originally listed in November 2020 for $693,561
- Reduced
- Currently listed at $664,900
- Assessments of $1450 a month (includes heat, a/c, gas, doorman, outdoor pool, exercise room)
- Taxes of $9816
- Heated garage parking is available for rent
- Guest parking also available
- Bedroom #1: 15×14
- Bedroom #2: 13×11
- Bedroom #3: 13×12
- Living room: 20×10
- Dining room: 14×10
- Kitchen: 14×8
- Laundry room: 4×8
- Walk-in-closet: 5×8
For starters the photography is terrible.
Great spot for a vent in the bathroom w/ “mosaic” tile
I don’t think the 3rd Br has any doors.(space off the LR)
Professionally designed is the new Chefs kitchen
About zero chance this is 1800sf
Almost $5k/mo + DP+Parking = Fail.
“ What will get this unit sold?”
A price starting with a 5 and a buyer with FOMO
@JohnnyU — are there any properties you DO like? You slam every one right out of the gate, no matter what they look like. Why don’t you post pics of your crib here sometime. I’ll bet it’s stunning.
What’s going to happen to all of the ugly 1960s-70s constructed high rises in the next 20 years? As these buildings age beyond the 60 year mark, extensive building wide capital renovations to piping and HVAC systems and elevators will be necessary.
While assessments soar to cover increasing capital renovations, will long term condo owners be SOL with their real estate investment? In 2040, I don’t see 1960s-80s era buildings evoking the same “vintage” sentiment from buyers that we currently see for homes built in the 1900s-1930s.
If you’re going to “completely renovate” at that ask, you should have figured out a door for the 3rd “bedroom”. That said, at least they haven’t thrown up some crappy barndoor.
I know the chatteratti will bash this place. But that is a lot of *usable* squarefootage for this price at this location.
“I believe in the Golden Rule – The Man with the Gold… Rules.”
-Lawrence Tureaud
“I know the chatteratti will bash this place. But that is a lot of *usable* squarefootage for this price at this location.”
Look at some of the other 3Br’s for sale here (Think there’s 8 for sale) by the time you add a decent DR table, the living area is tiny, especially as they widened the kitchen (original are galley) The 3rd BR w/o a door becomes the TV room. Which I agree is not bad but at that point its a 16009sf 2Br – a different beast altogether
There’s a reason this condo has been on the market for 120+ days. I’ve been in this unit. It’s a cheap-ish renovation that looks much better in pictures than it does in person. Lots of corners were cut. There are no views unless you like looking at satellite dishes on top of brownstones.
The unit is about 1800 square feet and the layout is nice with lots of usable square footage as Groove77 pointed out.
Right now there are 7, 3-bedrooms for sale in this building. Personally, I’d rather buy 10B and update it:
https://www.urbanrealestate.com/property/100-E-Bellevue-Unit-10B-Chicago-IL-60611-6W3TkpPTkpIF.html
If I were a broker driving down from Winnetka to shoot (or have someone shoot) the pics, I’d strive for better results.
“by the time you add a decent DR table”
Yeah add a suburban tacky huge leather recliner couch sectional and yes this place will be tight to move.
Considering all the realtor inflated sqft that we see so much. This place has actual usable living space and real decent bedroom sizes.
Is the reno worth $230k? Oh hecky naw!!! Will they get list? Shoot if i know, RE market defies common sense always.
The real question for this unit, is the $1400 ass fee staying there, I would check the reserves and upcoming maintenance projects. The anecdotal I have of this build is 10 years old.
“Great spot for a vent in the bathroom w/ “mosaic” tile”
No objection to the location of the vent in the other bath?
You know what I love? electric baseboard heat. It’s so homey–like a hairdryer.
When installing a closet set up like that, you put the closet in first, *then* do the baseboards. Also: that looks like a floating floor–should the closet verticals be resting on it??
Nice “Bosch appliances”–is that the “POS” line of Bosch range?
With the exception of the kitchen, there’s no overhead lighting. Not even a junction box to add any.
Where else would you put the exhaust in the bathrooms? The building isn’t going to let you move them all over the place (like the vent in the kitchen). Looks like it has hot water baseboard heat rather than electric (assume included in assessment) – wonder if they would allow convectors under the windows or radiant (though w/ low ceilings you lose height). I’m not a fan of no ceiling lights, but that was the thing for years and still is in a lot of new construction. I think they dropped part of the ceiling to get the shallow lighting in – should’ve done the entire ceiling.
” Looks like it has hot water baseboard heat rather than electric”
I should read the listing
“Where else would you put the exhaust in the bathrooms?”
Not on a wet wall for starters. Though I’m generally not a fan of water getting into ductwork. 6″ from the showerhead is just dumb
“No objection to the location of the vent in the other bath?”
Thats nitpicking isn’t it?
“Not on a wet wall for starters. Though I’m generally not a fan of water getting into ductwork. 6? from the showerhead is just dumb”
Probably where it always was – the building should have flagged the location of the showerhead when they renovated. My guess is that there are fire dampers (there should be anyways) in the exhaust duct and you can’t move the register far (or at all).
Fire smokes need to be in rated walls. Could have routed the exhaust to the other side and just added a soffit As long as your on the non-rated side its relatively easy
This unit gives new meaning to the word “undistinguished.” The building itself is also dull, and being on a low floor doesn’t help.
“In 2040, I don’t see 1960s-80s era buildings evoking the same “vintage” sentiment from buyers that we currently see for homes built in the 1900s-1930s.”
Why not KK?
I never thought the mid-century modern houses would be all the rage in 2021. NO ONE wanted one of those the last 30 years. Yet, here we are. They are the hottest type of home style right now.
There may be a backlash against high ceilings in the next decade or open kitchens (as many from the 60s and 70s didn’t have either thing).
The floorplans also tend to be more generous with space for a dining room table. No 1100 square foot 2/2s in most of those 60s and 70s buildings.
As for renovations to the 1960s-70s buildings- that is already happening (or has happened.) Most need major renovation at the 50 year mark. If the building has kept up with it over the years, it shouldn’t be too bad. All depends on the condo board and management.
That’s why buyers in older buildings need to look at reserves, what was done, what still needs to be done etc.
Recently, there’s been some deconverted back to apartments because they didn’t keep up with the maintenance issues. In that way, the building was “saved” because those long-time owners could get out of there with something.
“I never thought the mid-century modern houses would be all the rage in 2021. NO ONE wanted one of those the last 30 years. Yet, here we are. They are the hottest type of home style right now.”
What?
JFC you went from everyone wanting greys and waterfall islands to MCM? Do you even keep track of all the BS you spew?
“Do you even keep track of all the BS you spew?“
Absolutely not. She spouts one unproven, data free theory after another. She does this to piss people off and drive traffic to her site.
I would prefer that she go back to the 3 posts a day style website she had a decade or so ago. The idea that “I can’t find anything worth posting about” shows how lazy the site has become. Just find three homes and post about them already.
Btw, your, Groove77, Sonies, and Russ are the best four commentors on the site.
“Btw, your, Groove77, Sonies, and Russ are the best four commentators on the site.”
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Oh, I think you need to give a shout out to Gary, too. Other than Bucktown’s boundaries, he actually does pretty good.
MikeHG
I felt the need to correct the spelling in your statement. See below
“Btw, your, Groove77 is by far the best most intelligent, and extremely handsome commenter on the site.
You are welcome
I don’t know, but I would go with this place and use the money saved to update the kitchen and leave everything else as is.
https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/227-E-Delaware-Pl-60611/unit-12D/home/170598565
“go with this place and use the money saved”
Um…?
“Association Dues: $3,230”
How is taking on the equivalent of a $400k mortgage for the HOA “saving money”?
“She does this to piss people off and drive traffic to her site.”
I could care less. If you think this site has had any traffic for the last 8 years, you are dreaming. I even left and went to Asia for a year in there and no one cared.
But, I’m glad to report, that people DO start to notice when housing goes into a bull market again. Because traffic to this site has doubled in the last year. It’s nowhere close to 2009-2010 when everyone was here because they love to watch train wrecks, but I’m surprised by how many people are interested in housing again.
Another sign that we have entered into a new cycle.
“I would prefer that she go back to the 3 posts a day style website she had a decade or so ago. The idea that “I can’t find anything worth posting about” shows how lazy the site has become. Just find three homes and post about them already.”
About 2 years ago I tried to go back to 2 a day but no one cared. Few comments were posted. Not worth my time so I ended that experiment.
Now, with more people caring about housing again, I’d love to do 3 a day. But, alas, with record low inventory, it just isn’t possible. And the bull cycle isn’t advanced enough for me to do all that work for nothing.
It’s SO HARD to find anything to crib on right now. Anything decent goes under contract almost immediately. But as the weather continues to improve, hopefully I’ll be able to get out into some more neighborhoods. I just don’t feel like going to the trouble to get a picture somewhere when there is only 1 or 2 properties on the market. Again, just doesn’t make sense for me to bother driving 20 or 30 minutes to a neighborhood to do it.
If that’s “lazy” because I don’t want to waste my time driving somewhere for one picture, then, yes, I’m “lazy.”
And, Mike HG, you really have NO idea what it’s like to run a website for 14 years. No clue at all.
Hell- I even outlasted Curbed, which finally went under because there’s just no way to make money off the advertising anymore.
“JFC you went from everyone wanting greys and waterfall islands to MCM? Do you even keep track of all the BS you spew?”
If you have a mid-century modern home, you can sell it in a day, anywhere in this country. They are that popular.
There’s even a builder building “new” mid-century modern homes in Itasca because that style is so popular.
It’s so interesting to see it come back. People hated it for decades.
“If you have a mid-century modern home, you can sell it in a day, anywhere in this country. They are that popular.”
https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/419-W-Briar-Pl-60657/unit-B/home/13373757 – 20 days
https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/5671-Manor-Ln-60631/home/13562906 – 21 days
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/8-Lochinvar-Ln_Oak-Brook_IL_60523_M88089-43699?s=MREDIL&m=10938876&c=homesandland&f=listhub
Could spend a lot of time searching west & south burbs but the point is they ain’t taking a day to sell.
Part of the popularity is the low price point Vs new
“Um…? Association Dues: $3,230. How is taking on the equivalent of a $400k mortgage for the HOA saving money?”
Yeah totally missed the ass dues. Agreed price wise it ain’t similar.
But come on that place is EPIC. Compared to all else that’s out there, glad arse grey paint and white cabinet kitchens, that 3k in HOA makes it worth it.
Don’t forget that assessment includes taxes.
Agree with KK
“What’s going to happen to all of the ugly 1960s-70s constructed high rises in the next 20 years?”
The beautiful housing stock of high quality built 1900-1930 will be lovingly maintained and restored long after the layers of ugly, bland, sterile MCM architecture has degraded to the point where all anyone can do with it, is level it. People will spare a lot of expense and trouble for things they love- witness the people who will drop $30,000 or more on some piece of restored Bronze Age Detroit automotive technology that gets 9mpg, just from nostalgia.
As one who grew up in the Post WW2 era, I hated almost everything built in it by the time I was 12 years old. I loved buildings that were old, intricate, and decorative. I was told that the new buildings with their straight lines, low ceilings, and total lack of interest and charm, were easier to maintain and thus more sensible, but since that time, we’ve seen that these buildings are every bit as expensive to maintain and operate as those built in the 20s.
The saddest thing is that right now, we’re busy building another layer of bland, boring, comfortless architecture that our descendants will hate just as much as we hate buildings like this one.