The Rare 3/3 Vintage Greystone: 814 W. Roscoe in Lakeview
This 3-bedroom top floor unit at 814 W. Roscoe in Lakeview is a rare creature as not only is it a vintage greystone unit but it also has the much coveted 3-bathrooms.
Converted into condos in 2006, the living/dining and kitchen area now sports an open layout with what the listing calls a “chef’s kitchen” with stainless steel appliances and granite counter tops.
It has 14 foot high ceilings and a fireplace.
The 3 bedrooms are also larger than what you might assume you’d find in a vintage unit.
The master bathroom is marble with a double vanity.
The property has the amenities buyers are looking for including central air, washer-dryer in the unit and 1-car parking.
The unit is listed just $1500 over the 2006 purchase price.
Brad Lippitz at Prudential Rubloff has the listing. See the pictures and a virtual tour here.
Unit #3W: 3 bedrooms, 3 baths, no square footage listed
- Sold in August 2006 for $587,500
- Originally listed in August 2010 for $589,000
- Currently still listed for $589,000
- Assessments of $251 a month
- Taxes of $8044
- Central Air
- Washer/Dryer in the unit
- Parking included
- Bedroom #1: 16×14
- Bedroom #2: 11×14
- Bedroom #3: 15×12
If I can’t live in the turret, life is just not worth living….
Love it…
“The unit is listed just $1500 over the 2006 purchase price.”
Well clio said that this segment isn’t affected so this should sell briskly.
Very nice. High ceilings, bright, and I like the master bath. The building itself is beautiful as well, and in exchange for not having anyone overhead (and not paying for an elevator), it doesn’t look like a bad walk up.
Downsides: No garage (?), and the kitchen is (directly) open to the living room (kitchen/dining room combos are nice, and perhaps preferable, but I don’t need to have a view of the stove from the couch, even if it’s a beautiful stove). The location isn’t my bag either (though it would place me closer to Mia F’s and the Chicago Diner, two favs), but I’ll defer on that point to the insights of central Lakeview residents.
It doesn’t pop for me. At least the photos don’t impress me.
I think a lot of the original detail was removed during the remodel.
I would have to see it and get a feel for it.
“14 foot high ceilings”
Where’d they get 9.5′ tall bi-fold doors and a 8.5 foot tall refrigerator?
love it! Very new york city-ish
how much for the entire castle? Can I install a moat?
“Well clio said that this segment isn’t affected so this should sell briskly”
Nope, I said over 600k (at the very low end). However, owning a place just down the street, there is some weird attraction to this neighborhood and I wouldn’t be surprised if it sells in the upper 400s – possibly low 500s. You would be surprised at what people are paying in the immediate area around Halsted/Roscoe.
Beatiful place and great area, I think its a good deal, but there are alot better deals out there. I guess though this place is really unique, and may really attract a certain buyer.
“Nope, I said over 600k (at the very low end).”
So, the owner should just ask for 10% more, and he’d be set, right?
I be shocked if this place sold anywhere near the $600k mark. Sure it’s a vintage rehab which is rare but most 3/2’s in the neighborhood are going for $525ish with a garage spot!
Where’s the 50″ flat screen over the fireplace? Anywho, it’s a preference thing, but if I’m buying vintage building in this area I want a separate dining room and a seperate kitchen (or partially open kitchen to living room). Most of the market wants open layout, but it doesn’t always mean “all in one room”. As an adult, I need my separate dining room at this price in Lake View.
When my clients were looking in 2006-2007, we could not find a well finsihed newer construction 3/2 or 3/3 with a separate dining area from the livingroom/kitchen for under $550K in Lake View or south of there. They were not vintage people but also did not want their only living room in the kitchen. So, they bought a full top floor unit (in a center entrance, 5 unit building) with awesome decks on Ashland in Ravenswood just under $550K.
There is a ton of this totally open one room concept in gut rehabs and new construction from the 2000s and it’s a shame.
I really want to see a floor plan for this. How is everything cut up?
I am no fan of the kitchen/dining room or kitchen/dining room/living room condo, though. Either have a loft or even a soft loft or have a place with separate rooms.
sounds like it’s time for a wish list for 2011. Feel free to add your own….Realtors please:
1) provide floor plans
2) include the square footage — it’s easy, add up all those room demensions
2a) no fair including the garage, the porch or the balcony in that SQ Footage
3) No More grainy, dark photos — EVER
3a) instead of 5 shots of the same kitchen at slightly different angles, how about 5 different rooms!
4) stop blurring the lines between neighborhoods, calling it Cabrini Green the Gold Coast West doesn’t cut it
Others?
“2) include the square footage — it’s easy, add up all those room demensions”
From what I understand- for legal reasons- they will not just go in and measure with a tape measure. That’s also why in some new developments- the actual square footage isn’t listed either (because homebuyers can use it as a “reason” for getting out of the contract later- that the square footage wasn’t accurate.)
But realtors- feel free to chime in on the square footage issue.
“Square footage, is just a number”
-mario greco
“because homebuyers can use it as a “reason” for getting out of the contract later- that the square footage wasn’t accurate”
so true – I sold a condo in Boston that I had listed as 645 square feet (obtained from the assessor). When I sold it (at $544/sq ft) the new owners who bought it sued me because the actual square footage was 622 square feet. My attorney told me to just pay the 12,512 difference which I did – but it was a lesson learned.
I used to live right down the street from this place when it was a slightly shabby rental building. Although the exterior didn’t look nearly as nice back then, at least the kitchens weren’t in the middle of the living room.
good catch anon, so would this constitute a deceptive/fraudulent listing?
I like floor plans and good listing details too.
Funny though, I didn’t need a floor plan or mention of square footage in the MLS listing to buy any of my personal homes. I don’t think that’s how it happens. You should have a ball park idea of wants/needs and know if you’re going to consider a property type. By the property type, you should know will basically be “big enough”. Places feel different when you are in them…period. Will you pass on a three bed two bath because the listing says 1800 sq/ft rather than 2000 sq/ft even though it appears to have everything else you want, has great views, awesome light, great location?
And as many of you know, most of my property lisings get professional floorplans, videos and photos. Guess what? Three of our listed properties for sale had showings and contracts before we even got the interior photos/floor plans up on the MLS.
This is splittng hairs, but I think it’s pretty easy to understand the gist of a property if it’s in your desired location and price point from only an address few good photos, (maybe only an exterior shot) basic descriptions and some of the room dimensions on a listing. Believe it or not, people use to actually buy homes WITHOUT the Internet.
A simple email or phone call can be made about “deal breakers” if you can’t get those answers from a listing, i.e fireplace, deck off master bedroom only etc…
The people who sold my current house to me would have been better off not providing interior pics on the Internet. Nice structure, great lot and great neighborhood so serious buyers came running the second it hit the market regardless of crappy photos and no floor-plan. I was first and called dibs.
My clients also lost a multiple offer this year on a $490K two flat on Giddings in Lincoln Square… no interior photos on the MLS, but three offers on the first day of showings.
I agree there are several listings with out any good basic detail, but these are pretty much dogs anyway (right?) and not worth complaining about if you won’t consider the location/property type anyway. However, as I mentioned, if a property with desired location and price hits the market, photos won’t even be necessary for serious buyers to come and write an offer on the spot. If the price is THAT good, some of us will write offers without seeing the place (hint, I didn’t see the top floor of my house and I wrote the offer).
The seller just cares if it gets sold. If someone wants that location, buyers will come and look at it if priced well regardless if the listing has all the “bells and whistles”. Floor-plans, even photos sometimes, don’t sell the property. They may get “lookers”, but they don’t sell the property.
As for this property for example, I would know it doesn’t have a separate dining room from the dimensions given and due to the several good photos on the MLS… I want a dining room so I wouldn’t need a floor plan or square footage to determine my interest.
I also believe that dimensions of individual rooms are more important to buyers than total square footage. What really puzzles me is why the MLS, even after the recent “upgrades,” still does not provide for BATHROOM dimensions in the listing sheets!
“Three of our listed properties for sale had showings and contracts before we even got the interior photos/floor plans up on the MLS. ”
How is this possible? The Great Eric Rojas has his photos and floor plans up within a day of MLS listing. This would mean you are showing them at midnight — how dare you abandon your family like that. LOL
Agreed that most cannot tell the difference between 1800 and 2000 sq ft. I think people just want to be able to use it as one of many comparison points if trying to decide between two or more properties. It probably makes a bigger difference if you are looking at at units in the same building versus two SFH.
“Funny though, I didn’t need a floor plan or mention of square footage in the MLS listing to buy any of my personal homes. I don’t think that’s how it happens.”
Why do you go to the expense of getting floor plans and professional photos? Wouldn’t you save money (and your client too, if you shared some of the cost savings with them) without them?
“This is splittng hairs, but I think it’s pretty easy to understand the gist of a property if it’s in your desired location and price point from only an address few good photos, (maybe only an exterior shot) basic descriptions and some of the room dimensions on a listing.”
I agree with this, but that’s not to say the other bells and whistles don’t provide useful information. I assume that why you and other realtors provide it.
“Believe it or not, people use to actually buy homes WITHOUT the Internet.”
That’s nice, but increasingly less relevant, no?
Ha, thanks for taking it easy on me.
That said, I “like” all the bells and whistles for listings and our clients like it too… Mnay sellers really feel all these things, including direct mail, will sell the home. But we don’t snow job anybody… they are nice to look at and may catch someone’s emotion but they do not get the property sold.
I do believe the details are most important to the property should be featured… and that as little as two photos of important aspects of a property (like a super view and top of the line appliances in a kitchen) are more important than a floor plan when it comes to what’s made availble to see on the MLS (assuming room count and dimensions are there too).
One of the units we sold just had the front of the building and a full rooftop deck. They best market was coming because they wanted a full rooftop deck.
As for why we do floorplans, photos etc on our own listings, I to think they are important and clients like that stuff (I hate printing glossy brochures for most properties, now that’s a waste of money and paper). We want to present homes professionally along with the services that go with our business model. Why be cheap?
But, (I feel), comparisons are made from what if feels like to be in the home rather than comparing floorplans on a piece of paper or on a computer screen. If it has the details you want (location, deck, garage, bedrooms etc…), then being in the home, thinking about the lifestyle there is what people buy.
My pointless point is, shiny marketing tools are over-rated when selling property. Great price relative to the market, condition, good details specific to the property on the MLS will get buyers urgent fast!
Actually, I just changed my mind… I wish more agents would take better photos and use floor-plans too.
@ ChiTownGal “I also believe that dimensions of individual rooms are more important to buyers than total square footage. What really puzzles me is why the MLS, even after the recent “upgrades,” still does not provide for BATHROOM dimensions in the listing sheets!”
Good point.