Buckle Up! Surging Into the Red Zone Is Even Cheaper Now: 1738 N. Winchester in Bucktown

This 5-bedroom single family home at 1738 N. Winchester in Bucktown was unofficially placed in the Crib Chatter Hall of Fame last year.

See our September 2011 chatter here.

Not only did it have one of the best listing descriptions in the history of Crib Chatter ( “IF YOU ARE READY TO ACT BUYER, BUCKLE UP BECAUSE YOUR ANTICIPATION IS GETTING READY TO SURGE INTO THE RED ZONE.”), but it also had interior amenities (the, um, lower level, aka “dungeon”) which made it a favorite.

Originally a short sale, the house now has a new listing agent and it says it’s being sold “as-is.”

It looks to be bank owned, although the public record does not yet show a recording of a deed.

But the interior shows the hallmarks of a house that is now bank owned. The kitchen and bathrooms are missing (as well as many of the cannister lights in the ceiling.)

But for those of you who were fans of the, um, bricked lower level with 8 person hot tub, that level appears to be intact. Hooray!

At 6000 square feet, the house is on a 24×125 lot and has a 2-car garage.

The house also has an elevator and central air.

The listing now says: “THE HOME HAS BEEN DAMAGED AND NEEDS A TOTAL REHAB BUT POTENTIAL IS THERE.”

The house has now been reduced to $819,900.

Is this even cheap enough to attract a rehabber?

Any guesses on what this will finally sell for?

Coya Smith at Smith Partners & Associates has the listing. See the pictures here.

And if you want to see what it looked like before everything was stripped out, see the video here.

1738 N. Winchester: 5 bedrooms, 4.5 baths, 6200 square feet, 2 car garage

  • Sold in March 2003 for $375,000(old property)
  • Originally listed in May 2008
  • On and off the market since then
  • Lis pendens foreclosure filed in February 2009
  • Was listed in July 2010 for $1,799,900
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in September 2010 as a “short sale” for $1,699,900
  • Reduced
  • Was listed in September 2011 as a “short sale” for $1,199,900
  • Now being sold “as-is”
  • Reduced
  • Currently listed at $819,900
  • Taxes of $22,500
  • Central Air
  • Bedroom #1: 17×16 (2nd floor)
  • Bedroom #2: 16×13 (3rd floor)
  • Bedroom #3: 13×12 (3rd floor)
  • Bedroom #4: 15×12 (4th floor)
  • Bedroom #5: 19×17 (4th floor)

104 Responses to “Buckle Up! Surging Into the Red Zone Is Even Cheaper Now: 1738 N. Winchester in Bucktown”

  1. Buy the lot. Start all over.

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  2. Mike in Bucktown on May 29th, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Love the location….but…. I think anyone buying this is looking at basically going down to the studs and starting all over. I think this property needs to decelerate out of the red zone price wise to the tune of at least $200k more off the list. The preceding is assuming that the new owners don’t utilize the ….er….basement to “house” free (slave) labor. That would be one way to cut costs…..

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  3. So who strips the house? The former owner or the bank? I would think the fixtures would be part of the house such that the former owner could not strip the house before the bank takes over. But then, why would the bank do it because it makes the house more difficult to sell.

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  4. $500k

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  5. The bank did not strip the house. It was a previous owner or vandals. Because of the amount of stuff removed I suspect the owner. WOnder if the bank is going after them for destroying the place.

    I like the video’s final line about how it “won’t last long.” They were sure right on that one. This home did not last… as it is now in pieces.

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  6. BTW it is now a cash only buyer that has enough $$$ to purchase and do the renovation. No telling what unexpected damage was done during the strip down process. Those heated floors are likely no longer fully intact. I suspect that this place will be a very difficult property to sell.

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  7. Sad_at_Plaza440 on May 29th, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Yeah, this is an unmitigated disaster. Really shows the importance of not over-pricing a home. As silly as the earlier listing descriptions (and the interior amenities) were, this was a huge place that someone would have bought for the right price back in 2010 (maybe say around $1.2M in 2010). By mis-pricing, the bank has lost several hundred thousands of dollars.

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  8. ” By mis-pricing, the bank has lost several hundred thousands of dollars.”

    But the bank wasn’t in control of the sale until recently. The “owner” might be out the taxes (maybe not–even tho he claimed the HO exemption in 2010), but appears to have stopped paying the mortgage in 2008 (f/c filed Feb-09). The “owner” was still trying to cash his option, with all the no-sale risk held by the bank.

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  9. forrealestate on May 29th, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    i like how Sabrina’s photo is one of much better quality AND more flattering than the exterior photo by the agents. 😉 (“i just did not even have a moment to get out of the car!”)

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  10. the stripping looks pretty ridiculous. They literally cut out the $20 light fixtures in the ceiling. What is the resale value of those on ebay? They also took the staircase railings and the electrial outlets – you can buy those at home despot for like $2.00 a piece. There’s a special place in hell for scumbags like this. People who wreck perfectly good pieces of real estate for what amounts to pennies deserve to be drawn and quartered; right up there with people who hurt animals. They’re on par with each other.

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  11. My guess is the owners stripped the place of everything and are using it in another ‘project’. HD is right this stuff is pennies on the dollar, so that would be my guess as to what happened here.

    Be on the look out for the red kitchen cabinets coming to a new SFH near you soon

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  12. As for it selling…..550 seems about right

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  13. “Sonies (September 3, 2010, 10:42 am)
    This is my now 3rd favorite listing ever seen on crib chatter behind the chinatown bordello, and the liberachi duplex in costco”

    what ever happened to that mess on fullerton, and the chinatown site for rush hour five staring jackie chan and another will smith kid?

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  14. and how do you take a $1.5 electrical box and $20 light fixture but leave the dungeon hot tub?

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  15. “As for it selling…..550 seems about right”

    What’s the lot worth? It’s pretty prime wicker/btown, other than backing onto damen. Maybe in the low $400s+? What’s the structure worth?

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  16. “how do you take a $1.5 electrical box and $20 light fixture but leave the dungeon hot tub?”

    Installed lazy by sticking it into cement??

    “What’s the structure worth?”

    Depending on level of water damage and overall poorness of construction, could have a negative value.

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  17. I recently checked out the Ping Tom park in Chinatown and to my utter surprise parked right across the street from the infamous Chinatown bordello-style house. I had always wondered where it was – it does have a semi decent convenient location to the park. I was very excited and showed my wife some interior photos from my phone.

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  18. that bordello was a nice surprise when i was in chinatown last year as well. it’s visable right down an alley or something odd. just walking down the street glanced down the alley and all of a sudden I was overwhelmed with joy

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  19. “I was very excited and showed my wife some interior photos from my phone.”

    Always enjoyable when CC intrudes on “real” life. I made my wife take a photo of a potential uiclambo, on eastbound kennedy, sunday early evening.

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  20. “all of a sudden I was overwhelmed with joy”

    Me too.

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  21. re: “that Fullerton place”:

    They painted it white and sold it for $410 (pix, but you need to login to RF):

    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/Undisclosed-address-60647/home/13357045

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  22. “re: “that Fullerton place”:

    They painted it white and sold it for $410”

    how did it sell with all the iffy stuff with the pins and “HOA” and zoning IIRC?

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  23. “just walking down the street glanced down the alley and all of a sudden I was overwhelmed with joy”

    Was that from the house or did Clio actually drive by at the same moment with the Lambo? That always brought a smile to people as well. If you got both at once that would have been really special.

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  24. “liberachi duplex in costco”

    Thanks for the memories Groove – I must have missed one. Anyone have the link to this thread?

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  25. Suspect this house was stripped by scrappers. I’ve got a hard time reconciling an owner with a dungeon-grotto hot tub room as an owner who salvages minor electrical fixtures. Today’s theme must be “mold problems” day.

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  26. JP3:

    Last of a few posts–backtrack from there:

    http://cribchatter.com/?p=8790

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  27. matthewlesko on May 29th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    I feel like they were going for “Hef’s grotto” in the basement but it turned out to be more “it puts the lotion on the skin.”

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  28. Jim in the Sloop on May 29th, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    Last of a few posts–backtrack from there:

    http://cribchatter.com/?p=8790

    Oh, that one. Wasn’t there one that was evern worse, every inch covered with overbearing dark oppressive stuff?

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  29. “I recently checked out the Ping Tom park in Chinatown and to my utter surprise parked right across the street from the infamous Chinatown bordello-style house. I had always wondered where it was – it does have a semi decent convenient location to the park. I was very excited and showed my wife some interior photos from my phone.”

    ha!

    I hope it comes back on the market.

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  30. “what ever happened to that mess on fullerton, and the chinatown site for rush hour five staring jackie chan and another will smith kid?”

    The liberace duplex on fullerton (the “renaissance interior”) sold, didn’t it? I see that Unit #3 in the same building sold in 2010. Wait a minute- looking around, it looks like maybe #2 didn’t sell.

    Here’s the old post for it though:

    http://cribchatter.com/?p=8790

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  31. “They literally cut out the $20 light fixtures in the ceiling. What is the resale value of those on ebay? They also took the staircase railings and the electrial outlets – you can buy those at home despot for like $2.00 a piece.”

    Homeowners get MAD. I saw a house in the burbs where they took a sledgehammer to the walls. Because of water damage, the house had to be torn down.

    And then there is the old “concrete poured in the toilets.” That’s always lovely too.

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  32. logansquarean on May 29th, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    But who are they MAD at? Especially when the only people they should be mad at is themselves, for being stupid and/or financially irresponsible?

    The wrecking stuff for spite thing ranks up there with murderous snubbed spouses who say, “if I can’t have them, no one will”, and then kill. It’s just downright crazy.

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  33. “But who are they MAD at? Especially when the only people they should be mad at is themselves, for being stupid and/or financially irresponsible?”

    The bank. “Them.” Anyone who isn’t giving them a loan modification. The world. Etc.

    In one case where they put the concrete in the toilets they told a neighbor the bank wasn’t going to get “their” house (of course, it’s not theirs until it’s paid off- right? But that’s not how many people look at it.)

    Real estate is very emotional. That’s why evictions are hard. Foreclosures are nasty. Ask any agent who has been in them. There are sometimes satanic sayings spray painted on walls and feces spread around on walls/floors. It’s done by the former homeowners. Many are like “f*ck the bank.”

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  34. Sabrina, this is why we need to vigorously prosecute people who vandalize the house on their way out of it. It’s amazing how fear of the law and going to jail teaches people to control their emotions and behave like adults.

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  35. “The house also has an elevator and central air.”

    Do you think the dual option of elevator or climbing the stairs and c/a still exist if the can lights were cut out?

    What a disaster! When this is torn down, I have dibs on the hottub! 🙂

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  38. I was also wondering if the elevator is still there, or at least usable. I was actually surprised to see the stairs still there given how much else they have taken out. They also clearly maliciously flooded at least one floor, given the ceiling damage in one of the photos. I dread to think what they left in the ‘hot tub’.

    I think it’s disgusting when people do this, perhaps we need to have criminal damage laws amended to punish these classless thieves. I’m sure the fact that they are not being taxed on the loss taken by the bank isn’t helping the cause either.

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  39. gringozecarioca on May 30th, 2012 at 7:21 am

    ” It’s amazing how fear of the law and going to jail teaches people to control their emotions and behave like adults.”

    Well definitely not “completely” control my emotions, nor have I ever learned to behave like an adult, but 1 night of lockup back in college definitely taught me not to “cross” the line. Certain it kept me out of a lot of bigger trouble later in life. Lack of freedom was the worst feeling I ever felt in my life.

    But the concrete in toilet is kind of funny. I always enjoyed the saran wrap over the bowl trick myself…

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  40. on the one hand, yeah,lots of irresponsible buyers, otoh, the banking/housing industry really was the guilty party in terms of pouring fuel on a clearly out-of-control fire.

    society overall gets a C- for the state of the housing market.

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  41. logansquarean: I once saw a case where the homeowner took out a $100,000 home equity line of credit … and I swear to god, they are so angry at the bank. They’re mad the bank lent them the money, they’re mad the bank overappraised their home, they’re made the bank ‘made them take the money’. They spent the entire line of credit in like 6 months on god knows what. Then the bank messed up like one of their minimum payments and applied it late (it was an autodebit) so they got all pissed off and into a hissy fit, and stopped paying the bank entirely. Then they go on a rant about the 1% and the big banks being too big to fail, etc. It’s insane, they’re so angry at the bank for lending them $100,000. It’s not like they had to spend the money. In fact, the bank doesn’t want you to spend it, that’s why keeping the balance low keeps your credit score higher!

    I always tell the story of my sister and her terrible credit. She got a $300 credit card from premier bank or whatever and within 2 months she spent all $300, and then some, and had a bill for $330. Of course it’s the bank’s fault, right? I’m like “sis, they lent you $300, and you spent every penny of it, and more, and then you don’t pay it back? and you wonder why you have bad credit!” Then I tell her that I have a $50,000 limit on one of my many credit cards and I said guess what the balance is….she says “$30,000, $40,000, $50,000?” I said no, it’s Zero. I never carry a balance. Ever. That’s why I have good credit and high limits, because I never use them. Never forget, a banker is the type of person who will lend you an umbrella when the sun is shining but then asks for it back when it starts to rain.

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  42. i go against the grain on this.

    I feel anybody getting foreclosed on by the bank SHOULD jack up the house before they get evicted. F the fricken bank, and bankers. they deserve to get screwed somehow, i would rather it be someway else but looks like it aint happening. so i say lets screw the banks the only way we can.

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  43. I’m all about seeing some accountability for the banks, as they made the rules, thus IMO they own most of the blame. But does trashing a place actually screw the bank, or just the next owner/rehabber?

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  44. gringozecarioca on May 30th, 2012 at 9:20 am

    “Never forget, a banker is the type of person who will lend you an umbrella when the sun is shining but then asks for it back when it starts to rain.”

    …and the lawyer is the one that begins his/her request by demanding your rainboots as well 🙂

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  45. I’m all about seeing some accountability for the banks, as they made the rules, thus IMO they own most of the blame. But does trashing a place actually screw the bank, or just the next owner/rehabber?

    because on the one hand, yeah,lots of irresponsible buyers, sure. otoh, the banking/housing industry really was the guilty party in terms of pouring fuel on a clearly out-of-control fire.

    society overall gets a C- for the state of the housing market.

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  46. gringozecarioca on May 30th, 2012 at 9:22 am

    “F the fricken bank, and bankers. they deserve to get screwed somehow”

    They do. It happens every time they bring the Rover in for servicing.

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  47. “But does trashing a place actually screw the bank, or just the next owner/rehabber?”

    or does it help the next owner get the place at a lower price and gives them a blank canvas

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  48. “They do. It happens every time they bring the Rover in for servicing.”

    still dont see why people buy jaguars or newer rovers, everyone knows it will be in the shop more than on the road.

    buy a old “reliable” one for the retro/vintage style.

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  49. gringozecarioca on May 30th, 2012 at 9:50 am

    “buy a old “reliable” one for the retro/vintage style”

    Agree 100%. Every time I see a new Rover I always say how much that person is going to hate that car in 3 years. Jags even worse since they have no re-sale value. Mine’s in the shop this week but you would like what I’m doing to it… My new seats just came in off the boat this week and I’m having the roof liner replaced, rear seats redone, all custom re-stitching on all the seats (black leather with a dark olive green stitching-car is dark green)…interior door panels replaced from grey to black, black diamond pattern flooring, fridge being installed…. all that’s left is looking for new rims (black or dark grey?) fun to retrofit an older car. Going to keep this thing forever.

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  50. “fun to retrofit an older car.”

    interior retro fit is easy, its the paying out the nose for a aftermarket engine part that only one or two manufactures make. or trying to get modern concepts into older cars.
    one would think power windows would be a simple conversion/update, ended up my biggest fail.

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  51. gringozecarioca on May 30th, 2012 at 10:18 am

    Not a problem.. My model has been pretty much the same car for 30 years. Global car (with exception of the US), so can get parts for it anywhere in the world. Had a friend who tried restoring an old XKE and ran into the exact problems you mentioned.
    Well need to take the pups out and get some lunch… nice day here today.

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  52. “My model has been pretty much the same car for 30 years”

    i think i know which one. the rag top version too i bet.

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  53. I despise power windows, they always end up breaking/freezing up, and who really needs them – is it really a lot of effort to roll down a window? They are the handiwork of Lucifer and will be linked to the decline of America, mark my words.

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  54. “I despise power windows, they always end up breaking/freezing up, and who really needs them”

    then you never had a well made car, or keep your cars way to long.

    i cant go back to the days of rolling a window down. i like all my windows down and sunroof open even on 100 degree days. i love the wind and fresh air. i think i would shoot myself if i had to manually roll up and down 4 windows.

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  55. you talkin’ to my 96 Accord?! my dad still has a 68 Skylark convertible, it’s a genetic obsession I think.

    and yeah, good point regarding the back windows.

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  56. Electric window controls are great until you are submerged in water, when the weight of the water prevents you from pushing your door open and you can’t get out because your window control shorted out.

    I believe there should be hand controls for easy exit in the event of an emergency that disables the electric windows. In the meantime, you might want to keep a sledgehammer or tire iron under the seat, to break the window out if you need to.

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  57. Groove, a house that’s been badly trashed by a departing “foreclosure victim” isn’t exactly what I’d call a clean slate. The place is much worse off and usually has a lot more problems that will be very expensive to cure, than it would if it were merely another vacant house. While it might be fun to have the developer’s cheesy kitchen removed so you can install your own, it’s not cheap or fun to repair the results of vandalism, which can go very deep.

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  58. “In the meantime, you might want to keep a sledgehammer or tire iron under the seat, to break the window out if you need to.”

    Or, you know, a tool actually designed for the job:

    http://www.lifehammer.com/

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  59. anon – are you in fact here from another planet to save humanity from itself? you can tell us.

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  60. “good point regarding the back windows.”

    Especially in an old convertible like your dad’s.

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  61. “you talkin’ to my 96 Accord?!”

    dang man, that old. i know cuz your a city guy the accord is still under a 100k miles. but come on, thats even rough for old HomeDelete.

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  62. “I believe there should be hand controls for easy exit in the event of an emergency that disables the electric window”

    simple physics wont allow you to roll down a manually window until the pressure inside is closer to the out side. Unless you are as strong as Lou Ferigno.

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  63. “Groove, a house that’s been badly trashed by a departing “foreclosure victim” isn’t exactly what I’d call a clean slate.”

    Agreed Laura, but im at the point where even miniscule dents to banks make me smile.

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  64. “still dont see why people buy jaguars or newer rovers, everyone knows it will be in the shop more than on the road.”

    um… no, the old ones were pieces of crap, the newer ones built by ford were actually extremely reliable

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  65. “the newer ones built by ford were actually extremely reliable”

    And what of the Tata version (post-Jun-08) that you got?

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  66. “um… no, the old ones were pieces of crap, the newer ones built by ford were actually extremely reliable’

    sorry i owned a ford built jag, was in the shop always. even the stuff i fixed myself was way to expensive and i swear it came with 4 gremlins in each wheel well.

    also a buddy owned the almost all ford parts and chasis (the popular euro ford one) jag x-type. and his was in the shop almost as much as mine. funny story we ended up on the same day and time picking up our cars from service. (not many jag dealers around)

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  67. “And what of the Tata version (post-Jun-08) that you got?”

    but doesnt it take 2-3 years after a company buys a automaker to run through the previous owners parts/workings/R&D?

    any new car you see coming out today the plant was already set up to make it two years ago.

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  68. anybody else catch the title of Bri Bri’s post and what the convo has turned into?

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  69. “And what of the Tata version (post-Jun-08) that you got?”

    I got an 07…

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  70. “any new car you see coming out today the plant was already set up to make it two years ago.”

    Of course, but bad management can screw things up in a day, too.

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  71. way off topic,

    but anybody know a good site to sort the stats of schools?

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  72. “my 96 Accord”

    Still miss my 88 accord, which I sold about 8 yrs ago at 175K miles.

    “anybody know a good site to sort the stats of schools?”

    Not sure what you are looking for, but used to be you could download a spreadsheet from the cps site with school level data by grade with isat meet/exceed type results, over time. You could sort that whichever way you want, calculate some standard deviations, etc.

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  73. “Not sure what you are looking for, but used to be you could download a spreadsheet from the cps site with school level data by grade with isat meet/exceed type results, over time. You could sort that whichever way you want, calculate some standard deviations, etc.”

    thats what i am looking for. i am a spreadsheet guy.

    on the cps site now cant find it. (also cant find my NPN login either thats why i am asking here)

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  74. strike that i found it on CPS looks like i may need a few spreadsheets and combine them

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  75. btw, my 96 Accord has 125K on it, it should run until the city’s salt fetish dissolves the bottom!

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  76. “btw, my 96 Accord has 125K on it, it should run until the city’s salt fetish dissolves the bottom!”

    i will toss you $100, just get a new car already. a respectable grown man should not be seen driving that in 2012

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  77. logansquarean on May 31st, 2012 at 7:15 am

    so, what are the odds that any of us might find ourselves underwater in a car in the first place, AND, no matter how you open your windows in a submerged car, won’t the rushing in of water make it hard to concentrate on opening the door and trying to swim up to the surface? I’m not convinced the odds of surviving submersion are all that good, no matter what the windows are doing.

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  78. gringozecarioca on May 31st, 2012 at 7:32 am

    “won’t the rushing in of water make it hard to concentrate on opening the door and trying to swim up to the surface?”

    I think the idea is that you will NOT be able to open the door, so you are supposed to go through the window. This is the exact reason I make certain to stay thin enough to fit through a car window and why I always drive with an inflatable ducky around my waist.

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  79. “a respectable grown man should not be seen driving that in 2012”

    Sez the guy in the minivan. . .

    I’m with skeptic because I still miss my ’84 accord– sea foam green with vents in the hood to keep the 90hp engine breathin.

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  80. I miss my 89 maxima, but that was actually a nice car… actually now that I think about it after driving my two current cars around I don’t really miss them that much at all

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  81. “my two current cars”

    You moved?!?!?

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  82. “Sez the guy in the minivan. . ”

    shopped minivans, never pulled the trigger went with another large sedan.

    “I miss my 89 maxima, but that was actually a nice car”

    if you still want to see its probably being driven by a mexican in cicero.

    ““my two current cars”
    You moved?!?!?”

    went from no cars to 2 cars in about 5 months? no wonder he is busy, that second job delivering pizza’s needs to help cover two notes insurance and and extra $200 a month for the 2nd spot.

    oh wait he got the VW didnt he? that means a third job bartending to cover the maintenance and regular breakdowns.

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  83. no way, my burglar is burglar-proof by virtue of its fugliness, plus, it’s taken me years to fill up the right side of the windshield with city stickers!

    in all seriousness, I’d like to go to an EV for city use, keeping the Accord for longer trips. given that we start our home renovation project in a week, a new car is not too high on the priority list as long as Old Faithful continues to start as soon as you turn the key.

    “i will toss you $100, just get a new car already. a respectable grown man should not be seen driving that in 2012”

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  84. “in all seriousness, I’d like to go to an EV for city use”

    oh no you didnt. i dont want to get into the debate of electric vehicles today. a cheaper hybrid can run all electric in city use if driven correctly, and it also has available infrastructure when you need to go farther or no time to spend 13 hours charging the thing.

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  85. “oh wait he got the VW didnt he? that means a third job bartending to cover the maintenance and regular breakdowns.”

    Worse. 2007 Rover.

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  86. “Worse. 2007 Rover.”

    please dont say its the LR3 (or was 2007 the discovery?)

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  87. “fill up the right side of the windshield with city stickers”

    I hate removing the sticker, though they do seem less sticky than a few years ago. Is there really no other way than a sticker to reliably collect revenue?

    Can I remove the old one (to put the new one on) before end of June? Is there really a two week or whatev grace period for the new one, and where can I find official documentation?

    Has anyone tried those patches to stick the sticker onto?

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  88. gringozecarioca on May 31st, 2012 at 2:33 pm

    “please dont say its the LR3”

    Need this… it’s what they think they are gettingat the Tata dealer…. just add brush guards, running boards, black out windows and a few Hella lamps on lower brush guards/grill… no soft top… would be ripped to pieces here between the marginals and all the thick brush… (and need to turn off video volume).. but my off road days are over.. which is why i’m doin the yuppie restore…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9BEqMnYfus&feature=related

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  89. DZ, I despise removing those stickers. When I run out of room, new car time. : )

    I don’t know about hybrids going all electric, nobody I know with a Prius or other hybrid has gotten better than 60 mpg in the City. That’s cool, but I want 100% electric, and down the road I’ll put a solar charger on the garage for it. The Accord becomes the “distance” car for highway trips, where you young whippersnappers can’t TP it.

    “oh no you didnt. i dont want to get into the debate of electric vehicles today. a cheaper hybrid can run all electric in city use if driven correctly, and it also has available infrastructure when you need to go farther or no time to spend 13 hours charging the thing.”

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  90. “That’s cool, but I want 100% electric”

    Why? what are your reasons?

    not knocking your decision as i myself havent decided on a stance about the electric cars. just curious why.

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  91. “Has anyone tried those patches to stick the sticker onto?”

    They are technically illegal, but we use them all the time.

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  92. Whoa. Under contract.

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  93. Thought this was an interesting article about what’s happening to this exceptionally memorable property — http://www.chicagomag.com/Radar/Deal-Estate/January-2013/From-Party-Pad-to-Family-Place-in-Bucktown/

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  94. I enjoy this:

    “six high-efficiency furnaces, and other green amenities”

    How is having *6* furnaces in a SFH ‘green’?

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  95. And oh yeah groove, over one year now with my rover, not a single problem 8)

    *knocks on wood*

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  96. ” sonies (January 25, 2013, 3:11 pm)
    And oh yeah groove, over one year now with my rover, not a single problem”

    lets revisit this on year two and see how you really feel

    My jag was wonderful for the first 8 months then downhill from there.

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  97. Was that a jag made by jag, or a jag made by ford? My father has a S-type and hasn’t had a single issue in nearly a decade, ford really upped the QC in their premier auto group after 2000

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  98. ” sonies (January 28, 2013, 10:28 am)
    Was that a jag made by jag, or a jag made by ford? My father has a S-type and hasn’t had a single issue in nearly a decade, ford really upped the QC in their premier auto group after 2000″

    it was a S-type R, but as most early 2000 jags the had many Ford knobs and other pieces.

    the S-type was based on the chasis of a lincoln LS (IIRC) and had other lincoln parts too.

    the x-type was just a european ford mondeo fancied up and tossed AWD.

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  99. well durrrrrr any high performance car is going to have a lot more issues than a standard one… my dad’s is the wussy V6 version, not a 400hp performance supercharged v8

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  100. “well durrrrrr any high performance car is going to have a lot more issues than a standard one… my dad’s is the wussy V6 version, not a 400hp performance supercharged v8”

    never an issue with the engine or the supercharger.

    in order, had radio go wonky, a week later the flap thing for fresh air in the cabin stopped working so windows would fog up, then one month later the tranny went wonky, then after that the O2 sensor went out, rear window would work with drivers controls, jag went into “limp mode” twice without explanation, and the list goes on.

    the tire issue i had were my own fault, that many stop lights and that much power mixed with my driving style dont pan out 😉

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  101. I went into the filing cabinet last night to pull some service records/bills. Yes I keep papers way to long, i sold the jag in 2007

    on it i found one of my other annoyances, i had a left headlight that would go out every two months, they rewired it and it kept happening no matter what they did to remedy it. happened the whole time i owned it

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  102. back on the market and listed for $2.2MM. looks like a really nice rehab. would love to know how much they put into this place.

    http://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/1738-N-Winchester-Ave-60622/home/13354962

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  103. Thumbs up on the rehabbing and staging. I wish the ‘burbs had more homes like these. But they don’t.

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  104. While I don’t love every detail, I can *now* feel my anticipation surging into the red zone.

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